Posts by Rick A. Sponholz

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Resurrect Donate@Home (Message 38142)
Posted 29 Sep 2014 by Rick A. Sponholz
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A few years ago, GPUGRID started donate@home to mine bitcoins for their research using our gpu's. As bitcoin miners are now available for use with BOINC (see bitcoin utopia), would GPUGRID please consider resurrecting donate@home so we can mine for you? If restartng donate@ home is too bothersome, could you submit a request within bitcoin utopia so we could mine for GPUGRID there? Thanks in advance for your careful consideration.
Regards,
Col. Rick A. Sponholz
2) Message boards : Number crunching : BitCoin Utopia went crazy credit-wise (Message 37415)
Posted 25 Jul 2014 by Rick A. Sponholz
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Rick,

Donate@Home was a success for us because we had access to a lot of (AMD) GPU that we weren't using for anything else, at a time before ASICs when it was still possible mine Bitcoins usiing normal hardware.

We saw the effect of the introduction of ASICs almost immediately (indeed long before most of the customers actually received theirs, why that was is left as an exercise for the reader) and our return dropped to almost nothing very quickly.

Shortly after that happened we stopped the project as the human effort to run it couldn't be justified in the absence of any return. We're still accepting Bitcoin donations via direct transfer however.

I understand that some of you have ASICs now but, frankly, I doubt there'll be enough to make a worthwhile mining pool. Happy to be proven wrong, but I'd need to make a straw poll of crunchers to see.

Right now, however, if you do have ASIC mining hardware and want to generate Bitcoins for GPUGRID, firstly: thank you! and secondly: the best I can suggest is you subscribe to one of the large mining pools and reap a share of their activity, then xfer that to us.

Cheers,

Matt



Thanks for the reply Matt. I believe if you build it, we will come. In any case, thanks for your consideration of the idea. Regards, Rick
3) Message boards : Number crunching : BitCoin Utopia went crazy credit-wise (Message 37398)
Posted 24 Jul 2014 by Rick A. Sponholz
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MJH,
Why not resurrect Donate@home, and allow us to use our ASIC miners to find cash for gpugrid like we use to with our GPU's? Right now all my miners are crunching for milkyway@home via Bitcoin Utopia, but I'd love to switch some over to you. BTW Bitcoin Utopia has wu's for: ASIC miners only, cpu only, AND GPU only. if they think it's worthwhile, maybe you should reconsider. Just a thought.
Regards,
Col. Rick A. Sponholz


Could someone from GPUGRID respond to the post above? Several people have posted their opinion on the credability of bitcoins, but GPUGRID used them in the past (earned via Donate@home). I'm going to mine for some project, wish it could be for GPUGRID.
Thanks in advance for your consideration & response.
Col. Rick A. Sponholz
4) Message boards : Number crunching : BitCoin Utopia went crazy credit-wise (Message 37315)
Posted 20 Jul 2014 by Rick A. Sponholz
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MJH,
Why not resurrect Donate@home, and allow us to use our ASIC miners to find cash for gpugrid like we use to with our GPU's? Right now all my miners are crunching for milkyway@home via Bitcoin Utopia, but I'd love to switch some over to you. BTW Bitcoin Utopia has wu's for: ASIC miners only, cpu only, AND GPU only. if they think it's worthwhile, maybe you should reconsider. Just a thought.
Regards,
Col. Rick A. Sponholz
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Why am I getting TOO MANY WU's? (Message 33271)
Posted 30 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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I figured out a reason for overfetch in my BOINC 7.1.18:

I have GPU-Grid set up as backup project, with POEM being primary and providing sporadic work supply. The cache setting is relatively low (0.05 + 0.35 days) and long runs take ~11 hours (0.46 days) on my GPU.

Yet, when POEM ran out BOINC got 2 GPU-Grids. I increased the time to switch between apps to 15h to make it finish the 1st WU which already started, but the other one may sit there for days without starting when POEM supplied work again.

So there I sat thinking why the **** does BOINC fetch 22h worth of work when it's supposed to get at most 1 for a backup project anyway? Why not wait until the 1st WU is almost finished, or at least when the expected remaining runtime falls below the cache setting? This made me switch to short tasks, where the entire problem is just not as large.

Today I think I figured out what's happening: I switched to long-runs again and got a beta WU, where this didn't happen (only fetched one, as it should). The difference on my side between beta and long run? The former is set to 1 GPU, whereas the latter is set to 0.51 to allow up to 3 POEMs along the GPU-Grid task, increasing GPU utilization from ~85% to 98%.

Apparently BOINC sees a nVidia not fully utilized when the backup project kicks in (correct, it's only 0.51), but does not yet factor in that fetching another WU of 0.51 won't help in this case. On the other hand this behaviour is not too bad, since with correct backup-project-behaviour I'd have to wait for the download of the new WU when the current one finishes. And I'd rather miss some early-return bonus than risk an idle GPU ;)

Long story short: do you have less than 1 GPU set per GPU-Grid task?

MrS


Yes, I do have GPUGRID set at .75 GPU via app_config, so I can get better utilization from my GTX690's. So, you think BOINC can't figure out how to properly feed the GPU's? Interesting perspective. Thanks for your thoughts MrS. Regards, Rick
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Why am I getting TOO MANY WU's? (Message 33160)
Posted 23 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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Thanks for sharing your setup Jacob. I too use a cc_config to try and exclude my iGPU from the calculations BOINC makes to get GPUGRID work. My buffer settings are similar to yours: .02 minimum days, .23 additional days. I do use project specific app_config.xml's to allow multiple projects to run simaltainiously on my GTX690's. Other than those, I let BOINC get work for all my projects and allow BOINC access to all my computer capability. Still wish I'd only get 1 GPUGRID wu per CPU, until I get to the .02 minimum shown in my preferences, and when it gets work, only get 1 WU (because 1 long wu is longer than .25 days work) also shown in my preferences. Oh well, I'll keep trying, but hate abortinh GPUGRID wu's because they've been sitting in my que unable to run because I got more than 4 wu's. Thanks again, Regards, Rick
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Why am I getting TOO MANY WU's? (Message 33151)
Posted 22 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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I am happy to report successful use of two iCPU's (both 4770's). For me, it required the bios setting for the iGPU to be set to, "Always On", my monitor attached to my GTX690's, AND a VGA Dummy Plug attached to the iGPU. They have been running for 5 hrs now without a problem. So far only SETI Beta wu's have run, but hope to get Einstein wu's soon. I'll report when I get some successfully run. Getting my 3770 iGPU working using the same techniques was a dismal failure. Will keep on trying though. BTW, I'm still having the problem of getting too many GPUGRIP wu's at a time (usually 6 wu's for my 4 cores). hope someone can help me with that too. Thanks to all for the help. Regards, Rick
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Why am I getting TOO MANY WU's? (Message 32962)
Posted 15 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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I believe you need a load on the intel VGA (or DVI) port. One way is to plug a monitor in. Another way would be to use a dummy vga plug. The way most bios's are set up is if they don't detect a device on the iGPU and you have another graphics card they simply disable the iGPU

Also if you get the intel GPU driver through windows update its not usable for crunching. You need to get the 'full' package from the intel download centre.

Probably a bit late but maybe it will help someone else.


Thanks for the input MarkJ. Luckly, I installed the correct (full) driver directly from Intel's site. I was using the Intel port for my monitor (that was the only way I could get the Intel GPU to work), but maybe I need the dummy plug for drive 0 on my GTX690? I've ordered 3 VGA Dummy Pluggs (1 for eacj of my i7 machines), and hope to receive them by next weekend. It would be great, if that's all that's needed. Thanks again, Rick
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Why am I getting TOO MANY WU's? (Message 32878)
Posted 11 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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Unfortunately, I guess you can't run the Intel HD processor if you already have two dual processor video cards in your box. It cost me $60 and an 80 mile trip to the computer store to find that out. But thanks for trying to help. Regards, Rick

Don't see why that would be the situation. Did they mention why, or just charge you $60 and say it can't be done?
Have you tried to use the IHD4600 to support your primary monitor?
While I don't have two dual GPU's in any system, I do have 3 discrete GPU's in one system and I can use my iHD4000 GPU to run Einstein.


Skgiven,
I can't thank you enough for the help getting my IHD to work. Your suggestion to use the IHD as my primary monitor did the trick, and I'm now crunching Einstein@home om it! Now more NVIDIA GPU time for your GPUGRID. Now on to my other two I7 machine and try to getr them to work too. Thanks again, Rick
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Why am I getting TOO MANY WU's? (Message 32871)
Posted 10 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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Unfortunately, I guess you can't run the Intel HD processor if you already have two dual processor video cards in your box. It cost me $60 and an 80 mile trip to the computer store to find that out. But thanks for trying to help. Regards, Rick

Don't see why that would be the situation. Did they mention why?
Have you tried to use the IHD4600 to support your primary monitor?
While I don't have two dual GPU's in any system, I do have 3 discrete GPU's in one system and I can use my iHD4000 GPU to run Einstein.


The techs just told me they could only get two of the three to work at one time (I think they spent most of their time un-doing the mess I made trying to do it myself). I only have an HDMI output for the IHD4600, and don't know how to connect it to my KVM switch. I use to be knowlageble about these things in the 1960's & 70's , when you had to rewire computers to get them to complete a task. Now technology is moving faster than this old man can keep up with, but I'll keep on trying. Thanks for the nuggets of info. I'll keep following the trail, until I figure this out. Regards, Rick
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Why am I getting TOO MANY WU's? (Message 32863)
Posted 9 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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Rick, see the following thread in Einstein,
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=10215&nowrap=true#125627


Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, skgiven. Unfortunately, I guess you can't run the Intel HD processor if you already have two dual processor video cards in your box. It cost me $60 and an 80 mile trip to the computer store to find that out. But thanks for trying to help. Regards, Rick
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Why am I getting TOO MANY WU's? (Message 32841)
Posted 8 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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Just after deleting my exclude intel_gpu, and immediately got,
GPUGRID - Requesting new tasks for intel_gpu

- Obviously I wouldn’t get Intel work, but I thought it might change the scheduler causing it to cache up more work, some wonky way. Unfortunately I can't test for this because the 2 WU's I have running are 3h and 6h into a run and Boinc thinks they will take another 60h and 70h (due to the estimates).

Rick, you can download the Intel drivers and use it at Einstein.


Jacob,
Where can I get the Intel drivers? I'd love to get more out of my machines. Thanks in advance, Rick
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Blue Screens (Message 32840)
Posted 8 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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Help!

I've been at this all day. After booting I get many "Display driver stopped responding and has recovered". After six or seven of these I get a blue screen with stop code X00000116. Googling tells me it may be my GTX 660. I replaced it with my GTX 460. Still the same.

If I turn off BOINC al,l is sweetness and light!

What to do??




I was having the same problem with one of my 5 GPU equipped machines. GPUGRID was the only project causing the blue screens. After dozens of failures at finding the cause (sorry for all the failed wu's), I un-installed one of my extra fans to lower the draw of amps from my power supply, and the problem went away. I would suggest you look into the size of your power supply, especially if you're in a warm area, and your computer fans are running overtime. Hope this helps, Rick
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Why am I getting TOO MANY WU's? (Message 32837)
Posted 8 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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The estimated remaining runtime could well be incorrect (due to the recent short and long test work units all being described as 5M Gflops server side).

Any Network Usage restrictions in place?

I cant see your app_config or settings.
So, is your i7-4770's Intel HD4600 GPU being seen by Boinc (it would say in the first page of your Boinc Log file)?

If so then you can exclude the intel_GPU from being 'used' by GPUGrid (you maybe already did this).

If the intel_GPU is being seen by Boinc and you have not excluded it from the GPUGrid project, your buffer settings will mean you cache up to 4h of work, for 5 GPU's.

This might help you work out what's going on,
http://www.gpugrid.net/host_app_versions.php?hostid=157727

You can see what your different app performances are listed as for that system.
Should be going by 'Average turnaround time 0.66 days'


Thanks for the feedback, Jacob, & skgiven.
BOINC is only showing recognition of my 4 nvidia processors, NOT the intel (btw, I didn't even know mt computer had an intel GPU. Is there a way to use that one too?)

I do not have any network restrictions. My wireless network is connected full time to a cable modem, with backup to a second wireless network connected to my backup DSL modem.

I'll try to answer any additional questions posted. Thanks, Rick
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Why am I getting TOO MANY WU's? (Message 32828)
Posted 8 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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I can't seem to get GPUGRID to follow my BOINC Local Preferences. I've got the Minimum Work Buffer set to .02 days, and Max Additional Work Buffer set to .15 days, and I still get seven WU's for my 4 GPU core machines, even when there is 5-9 hours left on the 4 wu's that are running. The resource share is only 62.14%. and my app_config is set to run no more than 4 wu's at a time. Am I missing something? Hope someone can help. Thanks in advance, Rick
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Does anyone have an app_config.xml that works? (Message 32827)
Posted 8 Sep 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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That was what I thought, but when I put "acemd.800-55.exe" or "acemd.800-55" or "acemd_800_55" and about 10 other variations, BOINC did not recognize the app name. Couriously, the new long app seems to accept the variables of the old "acemdlong" app name in my app_config.xml file. Rick


I get the app names from looking in the client_state.xml file, within the <app> blocks.


Thanks Jacob. That's exactly what I was looking for. Regards, Rick
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Does anyone have an app_config.xml that works? (Message 32508)
Posted 29 Aug 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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That was what I thought, but when I put "acemd.800-55.exe" or "acemd.800-55" or "acemd_800_55" and about 10 other variations, BOINC did not recognize the app name. Couriously, the new long app seems to accept the variables of the old "acemdlong" app name in my app_config.xml file. Rick
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Does anyone have an app_config.xml that works? (Message 32407)
Posted 28 Aug 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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Ok, I'm getting wu's again, BUT I give up on what new app names to use in the app_config.xml file. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance, Rick
19) Message boards : News : acemdlong application 8.14 - discussion (Message 32406)
Posted 28 Aug 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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Ok, I'm getting wu's again, BUT I give up on what new app names to use in the app_config.xml file. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance, Rick
20) Message boards : News : acemdlong application 8.14 - discussion (Message 32343)
Posted 28 Aug 2013 by Rick A. Sponholz
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Not getting any work units, installed lates drivers:
8/27/2013 1:25:58 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 690 (driver version 320.78, CUDA version 5.50, compute capability 3.0, 2048MB, 1955MB available, 3132 GFLOPS peak)
8/27/2013 1:25:58 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 690 (driver version 320.78, CUDA version 5.50, compute capability 3.0, 2048MB, 1926MB available, 3132 GFLOPS peak)
8/27/2013 1:25:58 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 690 (driver version 320.78, CUDA version 5.50, compute capability 3.0, 2048MB, 1955MB available, 3132 GFLOPS peak)
8/27/2013 1:25:58 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 3: GeForce GTX 690 (driver version 320.78, CUDA version 5.50, compute capability 3.0, 2048MB, 1955MB available, 3132 GFLOPS peak)
8/27/2013 1:25:58 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 690 (driver version 320.78, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 2048MB, 1955MB available, 3132 GFLOPS peak)
8/27/2013 1:25:58 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 690 (driver version 320.78, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 2048MB, 1926MB available, 3132 GFLOPS peak)
8/27/2013 1:25:58 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 690 (driver version 320.78, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 2048MB, 1955MB available, 3132 GFLOPS peak)
8/27/2013 1:25:58 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 3: GeForce GTX 690 (driver version 320.78, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 2048MB, 1955MB available, 3132 GFLOPS peak)


BUT AM GETTING THIS:
8/27/2013 10:10:19 PM | GPUGRID | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
8/27/2013 10:10:19 PM | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA
8/27/2013 10:10:21 PM | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
8/27/2013 10:10:21 PM | GPUGRID | NVIDIA GPU: Upgrade to the latest driver to use all of this project's GPU applications
8/27/2013 10:10:21 PM | GPUGRID | No tasks sent
8/27/2013 10:10:21 PM | GPUGRID | No tasks are available for Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card)


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