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rebirtherSend message Joined: 7 Jul 07 Posts: 53 Credit: 3,048,781 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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- a one week deadline - larger cache as set in preferences (not only 4 WUs) |
Paul D. BuckSend message Joined: 9 Jun 08 Posts: 1050 Credit: 37,321,185 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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- a one week deadline With my cards I am not sure I need a longer deadline ... But a larger cache is certainly something I would wish for the simple reason I want to keep the hopper full and the turning burning ... I know this project has not yet had an outage in the last month or so I have been on it ... out of work because of the feeder bug, but not really down ... but that is the point, with such a low queue allowed many ran dry. When there are other projects to pick up the slack this is less of an issue, but, right now there are only two places to go and that is not enough for the addicts (like me). And when you have a set of 4 GPUs with the ability to do a task in 4-5 hours, even a short outage is "expensive" to us who once started, never want the iron to cool ... |
Bender10Send message Joined: 3 Dec 07 Posts: 167 Credit: 8,368,897 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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- a one week deadline Deadline...Hmmm, that's been beat to death... Larger Cache...Well, this project is still in Beta I believe. So this would be driven by what results the developers want to see to solve problems, not by how much the 'testers' want to crunch (but you knew that). But if those 2 purposes happen to coincide...good for everyone, if not... Consciousness: That annoying time between naps...... Experience is a wonderful thing: it enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it. |
Paul D. BuckSend message Joined: 9 Jun 08 Posts: 1050 Credit: 37,321,185 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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- a one week deadline After saying that I had not seen an outage on GPU GRid, we just had one ... Thankfully it seems to have only been for a few moments ... But, when you can plow through the quota of work in just a few hours it is bothersome to many of us ... But I agree that it is up to the project, we are just agitating to have the policy re-examined. :) |
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Send message Joined: 14 Feb 09 Posts: 2 Credit: 2,479 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications
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Maybe the deadline issue has been a bit hammered, but it is extremely frustrating for those of us who don't have blazing fast GPU's. It is maddening to get close to finishing in time, only to have things slow up at the end. I would leave this project to the elite group with the over-capable machines, but SETI@HOME is the only other project I can find that runs CUDA tasks and they often run out of work. I would like to put my machinery to good use, but I can't do it here because it seems to have just a tiny bit too little speed to beat the seemingly unrealistic deadline. (Another couple miles an hour...) Does anyone know of any other CUDA enabled BOINC projects to participate in? Thanks. (I better quit typing, the deadline may have passed.) |
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Send message Joined: 14 Feb 09 Posts: 2 Credit: 2,479 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications
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Okay, I should join “Underclockers Anonymous”. But I would still like to know if anyone out there knows of projects to donate the unused (inadequate) clock cycles of my GPU’s to. |
Paul D. BuckSend message Joined: 9 Jun 08 Posts: 1050 Credit: 37,321,185 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Okay, I should join “Underclockers Anonymous”. But I would still like to know if anyone out there knows of projects to donate the unused (inadequate) clock cycles of my GPU’s to. Because it is early days there are only four projects that are using GPUs at this time. All of these projects have "issues" so to speak. GPU Grid, Nvidia, needs higher end cards because of the work SaH, Nvidia, does not always play well with others and some tasks take forever to run SaH Beta, Nvidia, often no work and lockups Milky Way, ATI, also requires higher end cards that have double precision capability The only other project that is even rumored to be working on GPU version is Einstein@Home and that is a rumor only ... no word from project people ... |
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Send message Joined: 21 Oct 08 Posts: 144 Credit: 2,973,555 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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PrimeGrid is also investigating the use of GPU's for their sieving tasks, though any actual application is likely months away... |
Paul D. BuckSend message Joined: 9 Jun 08 Posts: 1050 Credit: 37,321,185 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I had not heard that before... Thanks ... I don't do as much Prime Grid as the longer running versions seem way too unstable to me. Perhaps with GPU processing I might put more time on them ... In the mean time ... we wait ... :) |
Bender10Send message Joined: 3 Dec 07 Posts: 167 Credit: 8,368,897 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Okay, I should join “Underclockers Anonymous”. But I would still like to know if anyone out there knows of projects to donate the unused (inadequate) clock cycles of my GPU’s to. And the OTHER GPU projects available are Folding@Home and Distributed.net. Both have non-Boinc clients, and will run fine on your GPU while your run non-GPU projects on Boinc. And these projects work with (most) any CUDA GPU's. On Folding, you can do a Wu with an 8800GT in ~4-8 hours (depending on which wu you get). The distributed.net CUDA clients are still in Beta. All GPU's work on the same Wu's. How fast you finish depends on the speed of your GPU. But Wu completion times are measured at (5-9) seconds for GTX260/280, and (20-25) seconds for an 8800GT (last I looked). Consciousness: That annoying time between naps...... Experience is a wonderful thing: it enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it. |
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Send message Joined: 1 Mar 09 Posts: 1 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications
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I'm sorry but with current deadlines (5 days) and the impact on the computer's performance gpugrid is suitable only for fanatics with high-end video cards. On my 9600 I completed < 4% in an hour so it would take well over 25 hours to complete a WU. So you basically want me to do 2 things (if I want to participate): 1. Suffer unpleasantly slow interactive mode. I could survive with that but not 100% of the time my CPU is on. 2. Leave my CPU on all the time. I won't do any of those 2 things unless to compute something like Clean Energy Project (and I'm still not leaving my CPU on for it). |
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Send message Joined: 16 Jul 09 Posts: 1 Credit: 850,236 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]()
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The deadline is too small! My nVidia GTX260 just cannot complete a Wu in time if my computer is in use... With BOINC 6.6.36 I always see status as a 'Waiting (0.21 CPU, 1 CUDA)' I have to abort most of my tasks at 75-90%: http://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?userid=30685 The deadline HAS TO be increased. |
GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
That's because it's in use, so it's not actually doing anything. You can change that in the preferences. Your card should take just 6 hours to finish. gdf |
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I for one like the deadlines, 25% bonus for returning in 48hrs and the small caches. If I understand correctly each WU is part of a chain and the next one can't be sent until the previous has been completed. Radio Caroline, the world's most famous offshore pirate radio station. Great music since April 1964. Support Radio Caroline Team - Radio Caroline |
robertmilesSend message Joined: 16 Apr 09 Posts: 503 Credit: 769,991,668 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I'm sorry but with current deadlines (5 days) and the impact on the computer's performance gpugrid is suitable only for fanatics with high-end video cards. On my 9600 I completed < 4% in an hour so it would take well over 25 hours to complete a WU. So you basically want me to do 2 things (if I want to participate): There's a project related to clean energy among those offered by World Community Grid, but I've seen no sign it can use a GPU. Do you have enough memory that you can leave BOINC projects in memory while the computer is in use for something else, as I currently do on both of my desktops? |
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Send message Joined: 2 May 09 Posts: 1 Credit: 15,680,999 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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- a one week deadline I second to that, my comp is not on 24/7 and with my GTX260 maybe every third WU goes overtime. I'd like to see the deadline increased to 7 to 14 days. |
DamaralandSend message Joined: 7 Nov 09 Posts: 152 Credit: 16,181,924 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I agree deadlines are too short!!. There are many computers that are not used everyday, they process units and when they are finish... too late (waste of electricity power and time). I think the servers could make distintions between "fast computers" and "slow computers" this way people that process results with slow hardware or that are not 24/7 could help to the proyect even if their results come out one week or 2 weeks later. |
DamaralandSend message Joined: 7 Nov 09 Posts: 152 Credit: 16,181,924 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I think proyect you should consider more deeply about this matter. I have been colaborating with boinc for years. People get very upset when they see that after hours and hours of computing they don't get on time. I have the point of view most people can't afford/don't want to by a big computer or run it 24/7. I have the oppinion that a lot of littles make a big. But if people feel they have worked for nothing just quit the proyect and join another one. What is the longuer time the proyect can wait to get a result? Can the proyect wait for slowers computers/GPU to get a result? |
DamaralandSend message Joined: 7 Nov 09 Posts: 152 Credit: 16,181,924 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Here I put an example. You can see that even that my computer got the result, it was sent to another computer. I know now that the problem is that my videocard "GeForce 9500 GT" is not fast enought for this proyect. My solution is buying a new graphic card. But anyway I see this as a waste of CPU cicles, and I guess many users just don't consider this as an option. 02 Nov 2009 20:01:49 UTC 07 Nov 2009 20:01:49 UTC Timed out - no response 0.00 0.00 --- --- 07 Nov 2009 20:06:45 UTC 13 Nov 2009 09:36:51 UTC Completed and validated 271,836.89 2,789.05 4,716.44 4,716.44 12 Nov 2009 20:20:40 UTC 17 Nov 2009 20:20:40 UTC In progress --- --- --- --- |
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Send message Joined: 10 Oct 09 Posts: 1 Credit: 83,082 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]()
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I'm sure the GPUGRID administrators can see how many work units are processed before the deadline expires. So if only 40% is processed in time the deadline has to go up, when over 90% the deadline is fine ? Would it be an idea to make deadline dependant on the processing power of the GPU ? I allow the GPU to be used to when my computer is idle and besides that my system is mostly on during the weekends and nights. Thus it's hard to make the deadline but I do want to help !!! |
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