I have two nVidia GTX295 cards installed in my machine.

BOINC/GPUGRID are only using two of the cores. I'm on Vista x64 and have four monitors attached and the desktop extended onto all four. I have SLI and PhysX disabled, I removed the bridge between the cards and still the same.

My machine is a 4.2GHz water cooled QX9770 processor, 4GB 1800MHz RAM, 1TB disk space.

Do instructions exist for getting 4 cores to work in 9800GX2's or GTX295's?

Thanks!

Jason

Please complete one WU at least, so that we can have some info from the application.

gdf

Some completed now it appears.

........ wow Rapture - just ordered - so I'm a few days behind you. Are you pleased with the configuration?

P.

The application is seeing only one card.
Do you have SLI enabled? In this case disable it.

gdf

Unable SLI - than it works

Well, he said SLI was disabled. Sounds similar to this issue, which has something to do with new 181.xx drivers apparently breaking something.

MrS

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Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002

Or he booted up, disabled SLI, but did not restart BOINC ...

BOINC would see the post boot SLI mode and not know that he deselected SLI ...

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I also have a machine that operates on Vista 64 and on every restart, Windows never recognizes the 2 graphic cards I have in the machine.

I set the option to prevent BOINC from starting on boot so I can go fiddle with the NVIDIA & desktop settings. In the NVIDIA control panel I have to disable the PhysX capability, then go to the desktop display settings and extend the monitor into monitor 3.

I believe that if the PhysX capability isn't disabled, the settings won't hold (extend into monitor X). After I have the monitor extended, I then go back into NVIDIA control panel and enable PhysX then select multiple monitors.

NVIDIA then recognizes both monitors and I start BOINC which will indicate
GPU(2) and supply the work for both cards.

I believe the last driver update I downloaded from NVIDIA was 180.84. Don't know if this helps, but this is the only 64 bit OS machine I have with dual cards.

My 32 bit Windows OS has no problem detecting both cards on boot up.

SLI is disabled, PhysX is disabled. I tried without the SLI strap installed, rolling back to 180.87 drivers, removing the four GTX295's from the Device Manager and letting Windows Vista x64 reinstall them and then reinstalling the drivers... Still only two GPU's. Apparently the first GPU in each card is being recognized for CUDA applications.

Windows sees four devices, Quad-SLI works fine for gaming...

I can remove one of the cards and Windows sees two GPU's and instead of Quad-SLI in the nVidia Control Panel I get "Multi-GPU Mode".

Windows sees the GPU's but I can't get BOINC *or* Folding at Home to see the second two GPU's.

jaf

SLI is disabled, PhysX is disabled. I tried without the SLI strap installed, rolling back to 180.87 drivers, removing the four GTX295's from the Device Manager and letting Windows Vista x64 reinstall them and then reinstalling the drivers... Still only two GPU's. Apparently the first GPU in each card is being recognized for CUDA applications.

Windows sees four devices, Quad-SLI works fine for gaming...

I can remove one of the cards and Windows sees two GPU's and instead of Quad-SLI in the nVidia Control Panel I get "Multi-GPU Mode".

Windows sees the GPU's but I can't get BOINC *or* Folding at Home to see the second two GPU's.

jaf

Yea!

He found a bug ...

Um, sorry ...

It sure looks like a bug to me ... now, the question is where?

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I will post on the BOINC Dev ... ETA, could you see if you can get the devs here to to prod UCB ... like as not they won't say anything to my post ...

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Sent this:

We seem to have a situation with the new multi-processor cards, especially when you have two (and probably for more than two) cards installed. The cards in question are the new GTX295 with two GPU processors ...

As reported on the GPU Grid forums:

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SLI is disabled, PhysX is disabled. I tried without the SLI strap installed, rolling back to 180.87 drivers, removing the four GTX295's from the Device Manager and letting Windows Vista x64 reinstall them and then reinstalling the drivers... Still only two GPU's. Apparently the first GPU in each card is being recognized for CUDA applications.

Windows sees four devices, Quad-SLI works fine for gaming...

I can remove one of the cards and Windows sees two GPU's and instead of Quad-SLI in the nVidia Control Panel I get "Multi-GPU Mode".

Windows sees the GPU's but I can't get BOINC *or* Folding at Home to see the second two GPU's.
SLI is disabled, PhysX is disabled. I tried without the SLI strap installed, rolling back to 180.87 drivers, removing the four GTX295's from the Device Manager and letting Windows Vista x64 reinstall them and then reinstalling the drivers... Still only two GPU's. Apparently the first GPU in each card is being recognized for CUDA applications.

Windows sees four devices, Quad-SLI works fine for gaming...

I can remove one of the cards and Windows sees two GPU's and instead of Quad-SLI in the nVidia Control Panel I get "Multi-GPU Mode".

Windows sees the GPU's but I can't get BOINC *or* Folding at Home to see the second two GPU's.
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Because this is issue seems to affect both BOINC *AND* Folding, it may be with the CUDA drivers instead of BOINC ... but, heads up guys this needs to be looked at ...

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ON reflection , since it affects both BOINC and Folding, it is, as I said, more likely to be an issue with the CUDA drivers ... are you sure you have the latest?

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Paul,

I appreciate the help, I actually have three GTX295 cards and if I can get two to work I'm going to try and get the third fired up.

What's really weird is that if I put just a single one of my GTX295 boards in my machine, neither BOINC nor F@H will use the second core. F@H will try but it always immediately returns with UNSTABLE_MACHINE.

I've tried every nVidia driver version that supports the GTX295 that is publically available:

180.87 (first known GTX295 driver)
181.20 (current WHQL)
181.22 (beta made available tonight (1/16/09))
185.20 (leaked beta available on guru3d.com)

All of these drivers perform the same for me on my EVGA/nVidia 790i Ultra motherboard.

I've installed Windows 7 BETA on a second partition with 181.20 WHQL drivers. Same behavior.

I have spent hours in my BIOS playing with various settings and slowing my system way down just to be sure. No joy.

I'm not a CUDA dev so I can't know for sure, but everything seems to point at CUDA. However.. I've read forum posts from others have been able to get multiple GPU's working with F@H; some with EVGA boards like mine and some with other vendors' cards. That's why I spent so much time in my BIOS.

It's not a power problem. This machine has two supplies, a 650W Antec for my case fans and water pumps and a 1,200W Thermaltake Toughpower for the motherboard & video cards. Prior to the GTX295's I had water cooled tri-sli GTX280's in this machine that ran fine under full F@H load. Now I can't get a single GTX295 to fold on its second GPU for even a split second.

jaf

To my suspicious mind the key is that the system seems to recognize up to TWO processors ...

Why not four I don't know ...

BUt, it does if you only have one card.

Why NOT try the third card just for grins and see if it sees it at all?

It might surprise us and see all 6 processors then ... can't see 4, but can see 6 may be another clue (if it happens) ...

If it does not appear to BOINC THEN, well, at least we have another clue.

I doubt if it is settings for the simple reason that the OS and the tools see the two CPUs on the GPU cards. That is why I smell trouble with the drivers ... but who the heck knows ... you could send the cards to me to try ... and I am sure I would get around to sending them back in a year or two ... :)

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exchange twixt me and Rom:

Rom,

If the guy has only one card installed it is seen as two processors ...

I he installs the second, only one processor on each card is seen ...

SLI is not installed ...

Windows reports 4 CPUs on the two GPUs ...

The thread we are discussing this on is: http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=653

Should you want to join in there ...

On Jan 16, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Rom Walton wrote:

Paul, thanks for the bug report.

To clarify, the GTX295 only reports itself as a single CUDA device, and you and others expect it to report itself as two CUDA devices.

Something is tickling the back of my brain that says that could be expected behavior if the internal stream/multiprocessor count doubles between the single processor vs. multiprocessor cards. Since there is already an internal SLI connection between the two graphics processors on a single card.

I would be interested to see what the coprocessor xml structure reported by BOINC reports for Both the single processor version vs. the multiprocessor version of the same chip.

I'm not in front of my computer at the moment, i'm on my cell phone. So I can't look up the source to see the excact field name.

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One more depressing thought ... bad card ... you said you have three?

Try all three one at a time ... make sure they all get seen as we expect.

Card A, then Card B, Then card C

Try pairs to see if any of the three pairs show up as expected,

AB
AC
BC

Lastly, try all three (as: ABC) to see how they show up ...

We got feedback from Rom and he is one of the good guys (Paul's opinion) so, maybe he can get us somewhere ...

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Are you trying to run Folding or BOINC with GPU Grid?

Now I am confused when I review earlier posts ...

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Could you post your <coprocs> xml block for each of the configurations you have listed? It can be found in your sched_request*.xml file that is sent to GPUGRID.

It is what information the CUDA system returns to BOINC during detection.

It should look something like this:

<coprocs>
<coproc_cuda>
<count>1</count>
<name>GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+</name>
<req_secs>0.000000</req_secs>
<req_instances>0</req_instances>
<totalGlobalMem>536870912</totalGlobalMem>
<sharedMemPerBlock>16384</sharedMemPerBlock>
<regsPerBlock>8192</regsPerBlock>
<warpSize>32</warpSize>
<memPitch>262144</memPitch>
<maxThreadsPerBlock>512</maxThreadsPerBlock>
<maxThreadsDim>512 512 64</maxThreadsDim>
<maxGridSize>65535 65535 1</maxGridSize>
<totalConstMem>65536</totalConstMem>
<major>1</major>
<minor>1</minor>
<clockRate>1688000</clockRate>
<textureAlignment>256</textureAlignment>
<deviceOverlap>0</deviceOverlap>
<multiProcessorCount>16</multiProcessorCount>
</coproc_cuda>
</coprocs>

Could you post your <coprocs> xml block for each of the configurations you have listed? It can be found in your sched_request*.xml file that is sent to GPUGRID.

It is what information the CUDA system returns to BOINC during detection.
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*I* would like to see it with one card, then with two ... and three while I am asking for the moon ...

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Created a new partition and installed Windows XP Professional x32 and fully patched up to SP3.

Boom. BOINC/GPUGRID worked the first time with one card installed, I haven't stuck a second one in yet, but I'm betting it'll work.

This time when I booted BOINC the message was this:

1/17/2009 1:04:06 AM||CUDA devices found
1/17/2009 1:04:06 AM||Coprocessor: GeForce GTX 295 (2)

It's the first time it's ever said "GeForce GTX 295 (2)", always before it did not have the " (2)".

Embarrassingly enough, I cannot find the work files for GPUGRID. I found BOINC, but where are your files for GPUGRID?

Sticking a second card in now.

jaf

Yep it worked:

1/17/2009 1:38:17 AM||CUDA devices found
1/17/2009 1:38:17 AM||Coprocessor: GeForce GTX 295 (4)

putting the third card in now. ;)

jaf