Message boards :
News :
More CPU jobs
Message board moderation
Author | Message |
---|---|
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 08 Posts: 1006 Credit: 5,068,599 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
...with a new and improved application (Linux only). The current version should eliminate dependencies on gcc and devel libraries. |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 08 Posts: 1006 Credit: 5,068,599 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
By the way, the new app downloads updated libraries. Feel free to reset the project to free up disk space taken by the old ones. |
Send message Joined: 1 Jan 15 Posts: 1166 Credit: 12,260,898,501 RAC: 960 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
why are these CPU jobs for Linux only, and not for Windows, too? |
![]() Send message Joined: 13 Dec 17 Posts: 1416 Credit: 9,119,446,190 RAC: 678,713 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Because they can make the app work under Linux but are not successful yet in creating a Windows app that works. |
Send message Joined: 1 Jan 15 Posts: 1166 Credit: 12,260,898,501 RAC: 960 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Because they can make the app work under Linux but are not successful yet in creating a Windows app that works. hm, this makes we wonder why it is so much more difficult to create an app for Windows than for Linux ... further, an easy way to solve this would be to have the Linux app run in a Virtual Machine (like, for example, LHC is doing it for some of it's sub-projects). |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 08 Posts: 1006 Credit: 5,068,599 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Making boinc apps is like building a ship in a bottle, in the sense that your tools are very limited and you don't control the environment. In the case of windows the bottle is dark. ;) Edit. Jokes apart, we would prefer to have the app without VM, which adds opacity and size. QM uses Python, which we try to ship with WUs in the most self-contained way possible. This means that several components have to fall into place. When they don't, the reason is usually guesswork, and search of workarounds. |
Send message Joined: 9 May 13 Posts: 171 Credit: 4,594,296,466 RAC: 130,244 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Erich56 said: further, an easy way to solve this would be to have the Linux app run in a Virtual Machine Erich56, if you want to run the Linux app in a Virtual Machine, you can create your own virtual machine, install Linux and BOINC, then run the QC tasks from there. That is what I have done on my Windows machines and it works fine. |
Send message Joined: 8 May 18 Posts: 190 Credit: 104,426,808 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() |
I have been running CERN LHC@home Virtual Machines for more than ten years, and I have been rewarded with a CERN Polo Shirt. But yes, they do present some problems. Now your CPU tasks seem to run fine on my old SUN Workstation with SuSE Leap 42.3 Linux. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 10 Sep 10 Posts: 163 Credit: 388,132 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() |
That is what I have done on my Windows machines and it works fine. +1 Virtual box on my Win10. But i think it's not the best solution for performance.... |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 08 Posts: 1006 Credit: 5,068,599 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
As far as I know virtualization is almost native speed these days, especially for computing. |
Send message Joined: 3 Jul 18 Posts: 22 Credit: 2,758,801 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() |
The recent batch of CPU WUs seems to be done. Will there be more soon? |
Send message Joined: 5 Mar 13 Posts: 348 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() |
Yes, I am making some now. I'll try to submit new ones today |
Send message Joined: 5 Mar 13 Posts: 348 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() |
Sorry, sorry, sorry I messed up due to a small mistake. Had to nuke the WUs. Redoing them now. |
Send message Joined: 3 Jul 18 Posts: 22 Credit: 2,758,801 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() |
No issue at all. I'm glad the team communicates openly. Thank you for the heads-up. |
Send message Joined: 21 Mar 16 Posts: 513 Credit: 4,673,458,277 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
All of my Stefan CPU WUs are stuck at 10% and I aborted them after about 4 hours. This is the machine (16.04 LTS) that has never had any issues with pretty much any of the WUs. Here is the Error page: https://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=424454&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid= |
Send message Joined: 2 Jul 16 Posts: 338 Credit: 7,987,341,558 RAC: 197,587 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Holy cow the website is SOO SLOW. I had to use a proxy in Sweden to just get anything to load. I can't even get tasks even though the site says there are plenty. 1 error recently: http://gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=18003621 Why is the project requesting 28 GB of disk space? I see a three files stuck downloading that are less than 10kb combined. Project folder and slot folders are nowhere close to 28GB. GPUGRID 7/5/2018 10:18:01 PM Message from server: Quantum Chemistry, beta test needs 17080.43MB more disk space. You currently have 11529.80 MB available and it needs 28610.23 MB. These are taking over 4.2-4.5 GB of memory? I thought this was much lower before? That PC has 128GB but Mint split the disk space so not a lot of disk space. But 28 GB is a bit much. |
Send message Joined: 8 May 18 Posts: 190 Credit: 104,426,808 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() |
GPUGRID is taking 3.34 GB of disk space on my main Linux host, 3.90 on a Linux laptop. On the same laptop LHC@home is taking 5.75 GB. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 5 Mar 13 Posts: 348 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() |
Yes this is the stuff I resent to the beta queue I guess. They are much larger molecules so they were crashing on the QM queue cause they ran out of scratch space. I have seen them use up to 18GB scratch space so at the moment I don't know yet how to run these on GPUGRID as it seems to be an issue with many users. I doubt they were really stuck, they are just much slower to compute. |
Send message Joined: 3 Sep 14 Posts: 152 Credit: 918,557,369 RAC: 21,054 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
http://gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=470907 I have a lot of errors :( |
Send message Joined: 8 May 18 Posts: 190 Credit: 104,426,808 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() |
Must we update conda? Please update conda by running $ conda update -n base conda Tullio |
©2025 Universitat Pompeu Fabra