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Message 49769 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 11:59:53 UTC

...with a new and improved application (Linux only). The current version should eliminate dependencies on gcc and devel libraries.
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Message 49770 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 12:26:20 UTC - in response to Message 49769.  

By the way, the new app downloads updated libraries. Feel free to reset the project to free up disk space taken by the old ones.

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Message 49771 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 19:15:00 UTC

why are these CPU jobs for Linux only, and not for Windows, too?
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Message 49773 - Posted: 4 Jul 2018, 4:30:49 UTC - in response to Message 49771.  

Because they can make the app work under Linux but are not successful yet in creating a Windows app that works.
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Message 49774 - Posted: 4 Jul 2018, 5:38:24 UTC - in response to Message 49773.  

Because they can make the app work under Linux but are not successful yet in creating a Windows app that works.

hm, this makes we wonder why it is so much more difficult to create an app for Windows than for Linux ...

further, an easy way to solve this would be to have the Linux app run in a Virtual Machine (like, for example, LHC is doing it for some of it's sub-projects).
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Message 49776 - Posted: 4 Jul 2018, 6:25:59 UTC - in response to Message 49774.  
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Making boinc apps is like building a ship in a bottle, in the sense that your tools are very limited and you don't control the environment. In the case of windows the bottle is dark. ;)

Edit. Jokes apart, we would prefer to have the app without VM, which adds opacity and size. QM uses Python, which we try to ship with WUs in the most self-contained way possible. This means that several components have to fall into place. When they don't, the reason is usually guesswork, and search of workarounds.
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Message 49780 - Posted: 4 Jul 2018, 14:41:16 UTC

Erich56 said:

further, an easy way to solve this would be to have the Linux app run in a Virtual Machine


Erich56, if you want to run the Linux app in a Virtual Machine, you can create your own virtual machine, install Linux and BOINC, then run the QC tasks from there. That is what I have done on my Windows machines and it works fine.
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Message 49781 - Posted: 4 Jul 2018, 14:54:39 UTC
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I have been running CERN LHC@home Virtual Machines for more than ten years, and I have been rewarded with a CERN Polo Shirt. But yes, they do present some problems. Now your CPU tasks seem to run fine on my old SUN Workstation with SuSE Leap 42.3 Linux.
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Message 49783 - Posted: 5 Jul 2018, 9:50:41 UTC - in response to Message 49780.  

That is what I have done on my Windows machines and it works fine.


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Virtual box on my Win10.
But i think it's not the best solution for performance....
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Message 49784 - Posted: 5 Jul 2018, 10:02:41 UTC - in response to Message 49783.  

As far as I know virtualization is almost native speed these days, especially for computing.
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Message 49785 - Posted: 5 Jul 2018, 12:01:51 UTC - in response to Message 49784.  

The recent batch of CPU WUs seems to be done. Will there be more soon?
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Message 49786 - Posted: 5 Jul 2018, 12:20:39 UTC - in response to Message 49785.  

Yes, I am making some now. I'll try to submit new ones today
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Message 49787 - Posted: 5 Jul 2018, 14:24:27 UTC

Sorry, sorry, sorry I messed up due to a small mistake. Had to nuke the WUs. Redoing them now.
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Message 49788 - Posted: 5 Jul 2018, 14:53:52 UTC - in response to Message 49787.  

No issue at all. I'm glad the team communicates openly.

Thank you for the heads-up.
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Message 49789 - Posted: 5 Jul 2018, 23:55:14 UTC

All of my Stefan CPU WUs are stuck at 10% and I aborted them after about 4 hours. This is the machine (16.04 LTS) that has never had any issues with pretty much any of the WUs.

Here is the Error page: https://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=424454&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=
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Message 49790 - Posted: 6 Jul 2018, 2:35:38 UTC

Holy cow the website is SOO SLOW. I had to use a proxy in Sweden to just get anything to load. I can't even get tasks even though the site says there are plenty.

1 error recently:
http://gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=18003621

Why is the project requesting 28 GB of disk space? I see a three files stuck downloading that are less than 10kb combined. Project folder and slot folders are nowhere close to 28GB.
GPUGRID 7/5/2018 10:18:01 PM Message from server: Quantum Chemistry, beta test needs 17080.43MB more disk space. You currently have 11529.80 MB available and it needs 28610.23 MB.

These are taking over 4.2-4.5 GB of memory? I thought this was much lower before? That PC has 128GB but Mint split the disk space so not a lot of disk space. But 28 GB is a bit much.
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Message 49791 - Posted: 6 Jul 2018, 7:39:23 UTC

GPUGRID is taking 3.34 GB of disk space on my main Linux host, 3.90 on a Linux laptop. On the same laptop LHC@home is taking 5.75 GB.
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Message 49792 - Posted: 6 Jul 2018, 8:09:46 UTC - in response to Message 49791.  
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Yes this is the stuff I resent to the beta queue I guess. They are much larger molecules so they were crashing on the QM queue cause they ran out of scratch space. I have seen them use up to 18GB scratch space so at the moment I don't know yet how to run these on GPUGRID as it seems to be an issue with many users.

I doubt they were really stuck, they are just much slower to compute.
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Message 49793 - Posted: 6 Jul 2018, 10:17:16 UTC

http://gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=470907

I have a lot of errors :(
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Message 49794 - Posted: 6 Jul 2018, 10:46:21 UTC

Must we update conda?
Please update conda by running

$ conda update -n base conda
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