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ZarckSend message Joined: 16 Aug 08 Posts: 145 Credit: 328,473,995 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Thank you for your reply, I am considering changing the case for a Corsair Obsidian 900D (15 fans), or waiting for the outside temperature to return to normal (30 ° presently). |
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Send message Joined: 21 Mar 16 Posts: 513 Credit: 4,673,458,277 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Thank you for your reply, I am considering changing the case for a Corsair Obsidian 900D (15 fans), or waiting for the outside temperature to return to normal (30 ° presently). The case with better airflow will do a lot more than a few degree ambient celcius change |
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Send message Joined: 28 Jul 12 Posts: 819 Credit: 1,591,285,971 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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All good advice. It is possible to run them without error. http://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=358185 http://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=375823 http://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=428242 |
ZarckSend message Joined: 16 Aug 08 Posts: 145 Credit: 328,473,995 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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The outside temperature dropped by 10 ° Celsius and I managed to finish a Gpugrid unit. But your project to another problem, within 5 hours the GpuGrid unit that is being computed on my machine will be terminated, and the GpuGrid server is empty. As I prefer medical research projects, I will move on to Folding, for an indeterminate period of time. Maybe I'll come back to your project. But how many users switch to another project, and do not come back to yours? |
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Send message Joined: 1 Jan 15 Posts: 1166 Credit: 12,260,898,501 RAC: 1 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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As I prefer medical research projects, I will move on to Folding ... This I did several days ago with one of my host - the PC with Windows10 and a GTX750Ti inside. As I wrote in some other postings in the forum, the problem was that since the new crunching software (acmed 918.80) was implemented beginning of April, GPUGRID crunching on this host did not work well any longer. Probably for several reasons: - the crunching software is buggy: one in a while, crunching stops, and can only be resumed by manually pausing and then resuming the task (if the task stops in the late evening or during the night, the host runs idle till next morning). - overclocking is a lot less possible than before. In fact, with the GTX750Ti I even had to underclock - and still crunching stopped once in a while. - this happens very often with one of the newer, extremely demanding WU's like ADRIA_FOLDGREED50_crystal_ss_contacts_100_ubiquitin_ (and some others) Crunching such a WU, with numerous interruptions inbetween, takes up to 3 days, which does not make a lot of sense. Hence, some time ago, I suggested that a third tier of tasks (like "extra longruns" or so) be introduced in the personal settings page, so that people with cards like a GTX750Ti can exclude such heavy tasks from being downlaoaded. I also suggested that the buggy software (which had to be put together in a hurry, and was probably optimized for Pascal cards) be improved. So far, there was NO REACTION AT ALL from the GPUGRID people - no comment, nothing. As I and others here stated several times: they don't listen to their crunchers; they are not interested in receiving any useful suggestions, in learning about problems the crunchers may face, etc. - which is really too bad. I am wondering how this project will survive longterm. So, I was simply curious, and with this host (Windows10 and GTX750Ti) I changed to Folding@Home. Just to see whether the same problems show up there as well. They die NOT! Crunching works smoothly, no interruptions, nothing ... And questions to the Folding@Home team are being answered within half a day or shorter (BTW - by reading in their forums, I realized that quite a number of people there had changed from GPUGRID to Folding@Home in the past weeks and months - I guess, they wouldn't have done that without reason). GPUGRID crunching still runs well on my two Windows XP hosts with two GTX980Ti and one GTX750Ti - most likely as the XP crunching software (acemd 849.65) did not need to be optimized for Pascal cards (they don't work with XP). However, it was already officially announced that this crunching software will only be available until April 2018. This date will then be the end of GPUGRID crunching on XP (which is too bad in a sense as crunching with XP is some 15-20% faster due to the non existing WDDM overhead). So I am curious what will happen when with my two hosts which now run on XP I change to Windows10. Maybe there will exist an improved software by then. Or maybe not. In any case, should I face all these problems I am having now with the Windows10 hosts, I can always change to Folding@Home. At the end, I'd like to repeat what I posted before, after having read it in the forum of another BOINC project: Of course have happy volunteers is very important for the health of a project so this is something that should be addressed |
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Send message Joined: 16 Aug 14 Posts: 17 Credit: 378,346,925 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I do both FAH and GPUgrid these days; but seems no more work needed here so can also switch all cards back to FAH (there are problems too; at times) PS: keep in mind that FAH has an upcoming server maintenance day July 6/July 7; given bunkering is not possible you might have some time to cleanup the dust in the systems |
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Send message Joined: 1 Jan 15 Posts: 1166 Credit: 12,260,898,501 RAC: 1 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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... FAH (there are problems too; at times) I guess any project has problems now and then. However, it makes a difference whether they are being solved within short time or not at all. I am using part of my CPUs for LHC@Home - and yes, they have (all kinds of) problems about once or even twice a week. However, these problems get solved within a few hours. And when bringing things up in their forum, the team reacts within a few hours. |
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Send message Joined: 5 Mar 13 Posts: 348 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() |
We are trying to fix the issue with the WUs now |
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Send message Joined: 11 Oct 08 Posts: 1127 Credit: 1,901,927,545 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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We are trying to fix the issue with the WUs now Thanks for replying. Which issue are you trying to fix? |
Logan CarrSend message Joined: 12 Aug 15 Posts: 240 Credit: 64,069,811 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Erich56, Perhaps try linux. No wddm there! Cruncher/Learner in progress. |
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Send message Joined: 16 Aug 14 Posts: 17 Credit: 378,346,925 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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ahhh, the dry period is over; I got again assignments on my linux-based GPUs; thanks for fixing and giving my GPU meaningful work |
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Send message Joined: 1 Jan 15 Posts: 1166 Credit: 12,260,898,501 RAC: 1 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Erich56, but, as far as I understand, no SWAN_SYNC possible with Linux :-( |
Logan CarrSend message Joined: 12 Aug 15 Posts: 240 Credit: 64,069,811 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Erich56, Yes that's true. You should try it after support for XP with gpugrid stops. Even with swan_sync on Vista, 7, 8 ,10, I notice it doesn't use as much of the gpu as Linux did for me. For windows 7 I personally get in the 80's WITH swan_sync. Linux, I get in the low to mid 90's. Percent I mean. Cruncher/Learner in progress. |
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Send message Joined: 2 Jul 16 Posts: 338 Credit: 7,987,341,558 RAC: 193 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Erich56, That's because it's not needed in Linux. ;) |
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Send message Joined: 29 Jul 16 Posts: 24 Credit: 80,719,054 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]()
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Some time back (couple of months) I was processing WU's like crazy. I received notice that GPUGRD was moving to a new server - we'll be right back. I've never received another WU. Linux, GTX770 tks |
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Some time back (couple of months) I was processing WU's like crazy. I received notice that GPUGRD was moving to a new server - we'll be right back. I've never received another WU. You need to upgrade to latest drivers and then you should get WU's |
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Send message Joined: 13 Aug 15 Posts: 2 Credit: 105,000 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications
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What happened between 21st & 22nd of April? (actually a month before this date) Apologies for being late to the party. Assuming boincstats are accurate (and noticing other projects are losing active hosts and users as well) the Win10 Creator's Edition update must have occurred around that time. That certainly broke some hosts. Number continues to fall :( |
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Send message Joined: 11 Oct 08 Posts: 1127 Credit: 1,901,927,545 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Let's not blame a Windows Update unless we have proof, please. I'm a Windows Insider, and routinely run Windows 10 Fast Ring, with no problems regarding GPUGrid. |
Retvari ZoltanSend message Joined: 20 Jan 09 Posts: 2380 Credit: 16,897,957,044 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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The Creator's update is not a mandatory update (yet), and it is distributed over a long period of time. I think that those who forced this update could also manage those problems which could prevent GPUGrid from working correctly; if the problems persist they could even revert back to the previous version. The only issue I've faced after updating to the Creator's update is that the Windows Search broke down in Outlook; but it turned out later that it wasn't the Creator's update (as the error showed up on not updated PCs). So my experiences do not support this explanation.What happened between 21st & 22nd of April? (actually a month before this date) Number continues to fall :(No, the number of active GPUGrid users is fluctuates around 1800 since two weeks. I think it will rise again in September. |
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Send message Joined: 11 Jul 09 Posts: 1639 Credit: 10,159,968,649 RAC: 318 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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When I installed the Creator's update, I had to re-install NVidia's driver to get CUDA and OpenCL support back. Just re-ran the installer for the driver I'd downloaded already and had been using before the update. |
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