Ubuntu uses like 7% of my CPU by the time tasks are done.

Ubuntu uses like 7% of my CPU by the time tasks are done.

and this is exactly the bad thing: since no SWAN_SYNC is possible with Linux, the CPU usage of GPUGRID computations is far away from what it could be :-(

Hence, Linux is not a full replacement for Windows XP :-(

"The GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 support Windows 7 and above. There are no plans to add driver support Windows XP."

Manuel Guzman, Nvidia Customer Care, November 2016.

Xp will stop as announced. The number of Xp hosts is very small compared to the rest.

This is bad news, indeed :-(

This is normal, in 2018.
A lot of sw house and hw manufacturer dropped out xp time ago.

Xp will stop as announced. The number of Xp hosts is very small compared to the rest.

This is bad news, indeed :-(

This is normal, in 2018.

It is, but it's *not* normal that every later Microsoft OS is 5-15% slower (regarding GPUGrid) on the same hardware than Windows XP (due to WDDM). Microsoft is aware of this bottleneck, and maybe they will fix it in some future Windows 10 release, but it surely need a new NV driver and perhaps a new GPUGrid app also (there's a very little chance for the latter, due to lack of crew).

A lot of sw house and hw manufacturer dropped out xp time ago.

There are a lot of Point Of Sale terminals which still use Windows XP (x86 BTW), these are still supported by Microsoft until april 2019. My Windows XP x64 hosts are dedicated for GPUGrid use only, from this point of view they are very similar to POS terminals, so I don't think that your argument is valid for my hosts.

"The GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 support Windows 7 and above. There are no plans to add driver support Windows XP."

Manuel Guzman, Nvidia Customer Care, November 2016.

FYI: at the release of GTX 1080, I've successfully "hacked" the then-fresh NV driver (with CUDA 8.0) for Windows XP (x64), and used my GTX 1080 under Windows XP (x64) for crunching Einstein@home tasks. It doesn't worked with GPUGrid though. So there's no "physical" obstacle of using the GTX 10 series under Windows XP it just made up by NVidia.

Ubuntu uses like 7% of my CPU by the time tasks are done.

and this is exactly the bad thing: since no SWAN_SYNC is possible with Linux, the CPU usage of GPUGRID computations is far away from what it could be :-(

Hence, Linux is not a full replacement for Windows XP :-(

That's excellent for any GPU app that has a data set of this size. Many BOINC GPU apps are much higher than his. The ones that use very little CPU are small data sets, usually some math project.

Linux IS the perfect replacement for XP whether CPU usage or not, it still uses more of your GPU power compared to windows 7/10. Is it sad XP support is stopped? Yeah it is. But it's time to move on. Like I said, Linux is a good replacement for after April.

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Cruncher/Learner in progress.

Any estimate of the date when this is going to happen?

The 1st of April or the last? or somewhere in between?

It's already happened, of course you will not notice anything until the next generation of GpuGrid Apps are released because current Apps support XP.

It's already happened, of course you will not notice anything until the next generation of GpuGrid Apps are released because current Apps support XP.

No. Windows XP users will notice that the present CUDA6.5 app (v8.49) will not work any longer at all after x April 2018.
The question is the exact date (x) when it will happen, as it was not declared in the original post and ever since.

It's already happened, of course you will not notice anything until the next generation of GpuGrid Apps are released because current Apps support XP.

No. Windows XP users will notice that the present CUDA6.5 app (v8.49) will not work any longer at all after x April 2018.
The question is the exact date (x) when it will happen, as it was not declared in the original post and ever since.

I can't see any reason to withdraw the Cuda 6.5 App until new generation of Apps are released. Wouldn't that mean that CC3.0 cards won't work on any OS?

It's already happened, of course you will not notice anything until the next generation of GpuGrid Apps are released because current Apps support XP.

No. Windows XP users will notice that the present CUDA6.5 app (v8.49) will not work any longer at all after x April 2018.
The question is the exact date (x) when it will happen, as it was not declared in the original post and ever since.

The largest possible value for x is 17, because that's the date that app was deployed for the public to use.

In fact, it will be x-t, where t is the time used for internal testing between licensing and building the new app, and making it available to the public. From what I remember, that was pretty quick.

yea, would be great if the GPUGRID people would let us know the exact date beforehand.

It's already happened, of course you will not notice anything until the next generation of GpuGrid Apps are released because current Apps support XP.

No. Windows XP users will notice that the present CUDA6.5 app (v8.49) will not work any longer at all after x April 2018.
The question is the exact date (x) when it will happen, as it was not declared in the original post and ever since.

I can't see any reason to withdraw the Cuda 6.5 App until new generation of Apps are released. Wouldn't that mean that CC3.0 cards won't work on any OS?

I agree with this.

Unless there's a new app version that doesn't support XP the current one should still work unless sabotaged by an admin.

The problem is to do with software licensing: the app will simply refuse to run without any new 'sabotage' by anyone.

The problem is to do with software licensing

However, I can't imagine that the license fee it that high ...
If the GPUGRID people told us how much it costs, maybe some XP crunchers would be willing to contribute

Seriously?
XP is dead, time to move on. Devs dont have time to deal with ten combinations of OSes, drivers, app or CUDA versions.
If you are advanced enough to make real use of XP you should be able to use linux. Free, fast and able to crunch QM app as well.

I recommend Lubuntu 17.10. It worked always for me with BOINC. As a user wrote in the forums over in SETI:
"The reason for Lubuntu is to provide a lightweight OS that works well with 'lightweight' hardware. It has an XP like Task Bar and start Menu which should make it a big hit with all those XP & Win 7 holdovers 'cause we know from Win 8 that all 90% of Windoze users care about is their Start Menu.

You can read about it here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
Hmmm, an XP Start Menu with the ability to run the latest nVidia GPUs, what more could an XP fanboy wish for?"

I recommend Lubuntu 17.10. It worked always for me with BOINC. As a user wrote in the forums over in SETI:
"The reason for Lubuntu is to provide a lightweight OS that works well with 'lightweight' hardware. It has an XP like Task Bar and start Menu which should make it a big hit with all those XP & Win 7 holdovers 'cause we know from Win 8 that all 90% of Windoze users care about is their Start Menu.

Here are my thoughts on Lubuntu 17.10, which I am using now on a Ryzen 1700 PC, since Ubuntu 16.04 did not work for that build, and Ubuntu 17.10 had problems with the Wayland server not working with X11, which I needed for access over the LAN.
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,40728_offset,0#570471
It works, but lacks some features of Ubuntu. I would actually wait for Ubuntu 18.04, due out in a month, which should fix the access problems I faced.