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Message 47273 - Posted: 18 May 2017, 15:40:26 UTC

what happens to my two hosts on Windows 10 with acemd 918.80 and driver 381.65, you can read here:

http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=4571&nowrap=true#47261

NOT amusing at all :-( I cannot leave the two PCs unattended for lengthy time.

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Message 47280 - Posted: 18 May 2017, 20:47:19 UTC

OK, finally know why I am not getting any work for GT 610. So, deleting the project from my client, no more reason to have it there.
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Message 47283 - Posted: 19 May 2017, 11:04:44 UTC
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GPUGrid:

Regarding the problem of your app immediately crashing on CC3.0/SM3 GPUs (like my 2 "GTX 660 Ti" GPUs)...

Is it a problem that GPUGrid must fix, or is it a problem that NVIDIA must fix?

I feel like nobody is trying to fix it. And if it is something NVIDIA must fix, and if GPUGrid gave me enough info to identify the problem, then I might be able to work with NVIDIA to fix it.

But you guys aren't forthcoming with details.

When can we expect some answers? My main question, above, is still unanswered.
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Message 47315 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 10:59:57 UTC

Hello?
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Message 47350 - Posted: 1 Jun 2017, 4:26:51 UTC

*tap tap* Is this thing on?
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Message 47497 - Posted: 24 Jun 2017, 5:24:46 UTC
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5 weeks have now gone by, with no response to my questions!
I hope I'm not being rude by asking admins to follow up, but needless to say I'm miffed about this lack of communication!
Especially since my GTX 660 Ti GPUs are still unusable due to bugs with your most recent 9.18 app version. :(

How may we help you resolve the bugs?

GPUGrid:

Regarding the problem of your app immediately crashing on CC3.0/SM3 GPUs (like my 2 "GTX 660 Ti" GPUs)...

Is it a problem that GPUGrid must fix, or is it a problem that NVIDIA must fix?

I feel like nobody is trying to fix it. And if it is something NVIDIA must fix, and if GPUGrid gave me enough info to identify the problem, then I might be able to work with NVIDIA to fix it.

But you guys aren't forthcoming with details.

When can we expect some answers? My main question, above, is still unanswered.
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Message 47540 - Posted: 6 Jul 2017, 3:06:04 UTC

I'd love to help, somehow.
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Message 47543 - Posted: 6 Jul 2017, 9:56:17 UTC

I think that the only possible way to help the team is making a lot of donations. They for sure need a lot of money to hire someone with good programming skills. Could we as a community aford that? Probably. Would we? I don't think so.
So it is time to accept the fact that the team is too small and too busy to do everything we want them to do. As long as there are new publications provig that the most important thing (science ftw!) is covered I will support the GPUGRID.


BTW it is a common problem, my girlfriend is a scientist, not working with BOINC but facing exacly the same problem.
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Message 47544 - Posted: 6 Jul 2017, 12:12:49 UTC - in response to Message 47543.  

And they appear to have enough support, even with the reduced output on Windows. The unsent tasks are down to zero, probably due to the summer lull. There is no point in increased crunching power for the moment.
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Message 47580 - Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 14:55:17 UTC - in response to Message 47543.  

I think that the only possible way to help the team is making a lot of donations. They for sure need a lot of money to hire someone with good programming skills. Could we as a community aford that? Probably. Would we? I don't think so.
So it is time to accept the fact that the team is too small and too busy to do everything we want them to do. As long as there are new publications provig that the most important thing (science ftw!) is covered I will support the GPUGRID.


BTW it is a common problem, my girlfriend is a scientist, not working with BOINC but facing exacly the same problem.



Well put!
Cruncher/Learner in progress.
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Message 47585 - Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 13:19:39 UTC

Jacob I'm really sorry for this. Matt has effectively left our team so now we have hired a new person to work on Acemd and it's replacement in Acemd3. I doubt it will be very efficient to solve this issue when we can hopefully transition to Acemd3 which will use a more stable code base. If it's something urgent or really annoying such as this case feel free to PM me where I will definitely see it sooner.
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Message 47587 - Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 13:28:01 UTC - in response to Message 47585.  

Jacob I'm really sorry for this. Matt has effectively left our team so now we have hired a new person to work on Acemd and it's replacement in Acemd3. I doubt it will be very efficient to solve this issue when we can hopefully transition to Acemd3 which will use a more stable code base. If it's something urgent or really annoying such as this case feel free to PM me where I will definitely see it sooner.

I'm sorry you've had to take on the PR role as a scientist. I think having a meeting with the other scientists to allow them to more frequently check the forums and server status would mitigate many of these problems.
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Message 47588 - Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 13:32:03 UTC - in response to Message 47585.  
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Jacob I'm really sorry for this. Matt has effectively left our team so now we have hired a new person to work on Acemd and it's replacement in Acemd3. I doubt it will be very efficient to solve this issue when we can hopefully transition to Acemd3 which will use a more stable code base. If it's something urgent or really annoying such as this case feel free to PM me where I will definitely see it sooner.


Thanks for the reply, Stefan. It was helpful to me!

If you decide to solve it, and would like help to reproduce a problem or test a fix, I'm an all-star at both, and would do my best to help. I'm also an active BOINC alpha tester, and work with the BOINC devs sometimes.

In the meantime, we eagerly await the promising Acemd3.
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Message 47589 - Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 13:38:48 UTC

Yeah, I talked with Adria and Pablo today. They should be having a more active role from now on in the forums.
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Message 47590 - Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 15:00:52 UTC

That would gen great; nothing worst then silence. It's ok to have problems, but sharing it will reduce noise and can activate support.

I'm glad it's working again as I prefer this GPu project to others on BOINC
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Message 47591 - Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 15:01:19 UTC

That would be great; nothing worst then silence. It's ok to have problems, but sharing it will reduce noise and can activate support.

I'm glad it's working again as I prefer this GPu project to others on BOINC
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Message 47592 - Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 5:13:32 UTC - in response to Message 47585.  

Matt has effectively left our team so now we have hired a new person to work on Acemd and it's replacement in Acemd3.

As you may remember, last April Matt announced that Windows XP support will definitely be stopped in April 2018.
I strongly had the feeling that this was a decision made by himself, as he probably planned not take his time to put together another crunching software for XP.

Now that Matt has left GPUGRID, I hope that the team and the new person see the situation differently, and that the crunchers who still use Windows XP for good reason will get a crunching software beyond April 2018.
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Message 47594 - Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 9:30:25 UTC - in response to Message 47592.  

If we manage to make the switch to Acemd3 it will be based on OpenMM so it will only depend on where OpenMM can run on.
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Message 47595 - Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 14:21:01 UTC - in response to Message 47594.  

Sounds interesting, I hope you can do it Stefan. I read briefly on OpenMM's site, it suggests a support for AMD, so maybe you will begin support for that? Not that I have any AMD cards myself, but it could open up for a larger userbase, which could give a shorter turnaround time for workunits in the end. A plus for your research I take it.

As for windowsXP, I don't use it myself, but maybe the more tech savvy users on XP, should consider a switch to linux eventually. I understand some users have trouble with the learning curve, if they are not familiar with linux though.
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Message 47596 - Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 15:04:01 UTC - in response to Message 47595.  

As for windowsXP, I don't use it myself, but maybe the more tech savvy users on XP, should consider a switch to linux eventually. ...

As I wrote in another thread recently, obviously Swan_Sync is NOT possible with Linux (in Windows - this experience I've made myself - it's essential for GPUGRID crunching). That's why some crunchers have not switched so far.
On the other hand, one of the replies I got for this recent posting was that Swan_Sync is NOT necessary with Linux.
So, no idea what's correct and what not.
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