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Message 45808 - Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 9:51:46 UTC
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In case anyone is wondering what these WUs are, we are running some extra simulations on the Barnase Barstar system (previously called BARNA: http://gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=3709#36142 ) to answer some questions of the reviewers. If the results get us through the review process this will be a major publication :)
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Message 45817 - Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 16:39:29 UTC

Fingers crossed, knock on wood... ;-)
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Message 45819 - Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 19:43:33 UTC

We hope so...

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Message 45823 - Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 22:04:42 UTC
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How long are these supposed to take? My 680s have been crunching on it for about 27 hours and they're at 98% and my 980ti is at 9 hours and 70%
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Message 45824 - Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 22:19:21 UTC

1060 3GB: 55% done so far at a rate of 6.12% per hour, so my first BNBS should complete in ~16.3 hours...
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Message 45825 - Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 23:38:19 UTC - in response to Message 45823.  

On my GTX 960 running under Linux, at 2 hours 10 minutes it is 7.965% complete, or 22.45 hours total. So it will get in just under the wire, considering the usual hangs at download.
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Message 45826 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 0:08:08 UTC - in response to Message 45825.  

Windows on GTX 970: task 15850957

Run time 66,657.64 seconds (18.5 hours)
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Message 45827 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 0:39:32 UTC

Have had 2 finish so far. One on a 1060 in 71,824 seconds and another on a 670 in 100,793 seconds. These are not going to finish on the slower GPUs and should be in a separate 3rd queue. 14 of my 750Ti GPUs have them and it looks like about 40 hours completion (which is acceptable). There are a whole lot of GPUs on the project that are WAY slower (and less efficient) than the 750Ti.
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Message 45829 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 1:13:08 UTC

I managed to get my first 2 of these tasks done.

Name ARG59ALA_S5F7_C2-SDOERR_BNBS-0-4-RND4466_0
Workunit 12214546
Created 21 Dec 2016 | 10:38:53 UTC
Sent 21 Dec 2016 | 10:40:06 UTC
Received 22 Dec 2016 | 0:57:29 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 30790
Report deadline 26 Dec 2016 | 10:40:06 UTC
Run time 40,101.94
CPU time 37,868.64
Validate state Valid
Credit 492,000.00
Application version Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v8.48 (cuda65)

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15852421


On my windows xp, GPU usage is 97%, power usage is 91%, and over 11 hours to finish.

On my windows 10, GPU usage is 92%, power usage is 89% and 11 hours to finish.

Name ARG59ALA_S0F6_C2-SDOERR_BNBS-0-4-RND1278_0
Workunit 12214024
Created 21 Dec 2016 | 10:23:47 UTC
Sent 21 Dec 2016 | 10:23:54 UTC
Received 22 Dec 2016 | 1:00:49 UTC
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Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 263612
Report deadline 26 Dec 2016 | 10:23:54 UTC
Run time 39,596.54
CPU time 39,512.66
Validate state Valid
Credit 492,000.00
Application version Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v8.48 (cuda65)

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15851889


These are good! Give us more of these tasks.



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Message 45833 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 5:43:00 UTC - in response to Message 45827.  

14 of my 750Ti GPUs have them and it looks like about 40 hours completion (which is acceptable).

same experience here. 40 hours is a rather long time, though.
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Message 45836 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 9:08:04 UTC

I can't get new tasks on my Linux host (with a GTX 1080), while there's a plenty of workunits in the queue.
It seems that the scheduler is lying about the number of available workunits in the long queue:

2016. dec. 22., csütörtök, 09:50:10 CET | GPUGRID | Sending scheduler request: Requested by project.
2016. dec. 22., csütörtök, 09:50:10 CET | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
2016. dec. 22., csütörtök, 09:50:12 CET | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2016. dec. 22., csütörtök, 09:50:12 CET | GPUGRID | No tasks sent
2016. dec. 22., csütörtök, 09:50:12 CET | GPUGRID | No tasks are available for Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card)

("csütörtök"= thursday)
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Message 45837 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 11:24:32 UTC

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When I was in Budapest two years ago I had a very, very big problem with this dots above almost every letter. Still have no idea how to spell name of the street on which I was staying :P
But I had great time, city is beautiful but what is the most important - people are very kind :)
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Message 45845 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 20:22:37 UTC - in response to Message 45836.  

I can't get new tasks on my Linux host (with a GTX 1080), while there's a plenty of workunits in the queue.
It seems that the scheduler is lying about the number of available workunits in the long queue:

2016. dec. 22., csütörtök, 09:50:10 CET | GPUGRID | Sending scheduler request: Requested by project.
2016. dec. 22., csütörtök, 09:50:10 CET | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
2016. dec. 22., csütörtök, 09:50:12 CET | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2016. dec. 22., csütörtök, 09:50:12 CET | GPUGRID | No tasks sent
2016. dec. 22., csütörtök, 09:50:12 CET | GPUGRID | No tasks are available for Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card)

("csütörtök"= thursday)


same here
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Message 45894 - Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 13:50:36 UTC
Last modified: 24 Dec 2016, 13:57:22 UTC

Here are some data points for my BNBS results, see below.

Note: I run GPUGrid 2-tasks-per-GPU, alongside a full boat of CPU tasks, on Windows 10 x64. My main rig has 2 GTX 980 Ti GPUs, but only runs GPUGrid part of the time. My secondary rig has 1 GTX 970 and 2 GTX 660 Ti GPUs, and runs GPUGrid at all times.

I did have 1 "Validate error" that I cannot explain:

Validate error
ARG59ALA_S8F6_C2-SDOERR_BNBS-0-4-RND0619_0
https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15852757
GeForce GTX 980 Ti
Validate state Invalid

But I did have several successful runs, with healthy GPU usage, fans a-blazing! :)

ARG59ALA_S14F6_C3-SDOERR_BNBS-0-4-RND6925_1
https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15854987
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Created 21 Dec 2016 | 11:56:24 UTC
Sent 21 Dec 2016 | 12:06:08 UTC
Received 24 Dec 2016 | 9:57:30 UTC
Run time 83,311.57
CPU time 12,704.97
Credit 328,000.00

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https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15854167
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Created 21 Dec 2016 | 11:33:32 UTC
Sent 21 Dec 2016 | 12:06:08 UTC
Received 24 Dec 2016 | 9:44:08 UTC
Run time 82,628.58
CPU time 13,144.57
Credit 328,000.00

GLU73ALA_S0F12_C0-SDOERR_BNBS-0-4-RND8050_0
https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15853511
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Created 21 Dec 2016 | 11:14:40 UTC
Sent 21 Dec 2016 | 12:06:08 UTC
Received 24 Dec 2016 | 10:00:43 UTC
Run time 83,428.28
CPU time 12,700.48
Credit 328,000.00

ARG59ALA_S10F18_C2-SDOERR_BNBS-0-4-RND2903_0
https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15852984
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Created 21 Dec 2016 | 10:54:59 UTC
Sent 21 Dec 2016 | 11:12:43 UTC
Received 22 Dec 2016 | 23:49:16 UTC
Run time 126,085.77
CPU time 14,746.36
Credit 410,000.00

ARG59ALA_S12F12_C1-SDOERR_BNBS-0-4-RND1879_0
https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15853182
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Created 21 Dec 2016 | 11:00:20 UTC
Sent 21 Dec 2016 | 11:12:43 UTC
Received 24 Dec 2016 | 4:28:13 UTC
Run time 226,766.66
CPU time 14,399.27
Credit 328,000.00

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https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15852977
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Created 21 Dec 2016 | 10:54:44 UTC
Sent 21 Dec 2016 | 11:12:43 UTC
Received 24 Dec 2016 | 4:12:56 UTC
Run time 226,686.38
CPU time 14,523.08
Credit 328,000.00
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Message 45900 - Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 17:59:07 UTC - in response to Message 45894.  

Here is my result for a BNBS Project

Took about 2 days on a gtx 960 with windows xp.

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15854803
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Message 45903 - Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 0:22:23 UTC - in response to Message 45900.  

Here is my result for a BNBS Project

Took about 2 days on a gtx 960 with windows xp.

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15854803

It would be much shorter if you would have a PCIe3.0 capable MB/CPU pair (at least a 3rd gen i5, or a 4th gen i3, Pentium or Celeron CPU)
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Message 45904 - Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 1:24:21 UTC - in response to Message 45903.  

Here is my result for a BNBS Project

Took about 2 days on a gtx 960 with windows xp.

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15854803

It would be much shorter if you would have a PCIe3.0 capable MB/CPU pair (at least a 3rd gen i5, or a 4th gen i3, Pentium or Celeron CPU)



How much faster do you think it would be? If you aren't sure, I understand. I also understand what you mean about the pcie 3.0. I just don't have enough guts to go out and buy a couple hundred dollar PC at the moment when my current works just fine. Just ran a test and no issues, as well as I've cleaned it with new thermal paste.
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Message 45907 - Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 6:05:00 UTC - in response to Message 45903.  

Here is my result for a BNBS Project

Took about 2 days on a gtx 960 with windows xp.

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15854803

It would be much shorter if you would have a PCIe3.0 capable MB/CPU pair (at least a 3rd gen i5, or a 4th gen i3, Pentium or Celeron CPU)

Or an AMD FM2+ system if on a budget. If you're looking for a high end system wait a couple months and look into the AMD Ryzen:

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/amd-ryzen-first-cpu-benchmarks-surface/

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_ryzen_cpu_benchmarks_emerge/1#.WF6Ow5ghhtk.reddit
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Message 45913 - Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 16:20:36 UTC - in response to Message 45907.  

These tasks are less dependent on fast PCIE and CPU than most tasks are, but there are other WU's about too. Even if I wanted another i5 or whatever supports PCIE3x16 I would still wait for the next round of Intel releases and AMD's next generation (both Q1 2017) as these will be more competitive and drive more people to update & sell on their old systems. On the GPU front AMD/ATI are expected to release another series soon. For the same reasons (competition & cheaper second hand sales expected in Q1 2017) I'm not considering buying any more new GPU's ATM.
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