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Message 45744 - Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 16:28:40 UTC

Maybe we should have a copy of Toni's 14 December update here too.

1. Server upgrade went as planned and is completed. There are still graphical glitches on the web pages, which we hope to fix with time. Addressing these has to be balanced with scientific tasks and available hands, namely point 3 below.

2. We investigated connectivity issues with your help, and reported them with data to the network admins. There is nothing we can do on the server.

3. Lack of workunits. Of course we would like to increase the amount and diversity of experiments done. This was the main reason behind the server upgrade. Properly preparing experiments however requires time and deep consideration. We are on it. I, for one, would like to prepare further experiments, but it's not something that can be done (properly) from one day to the other.

As always, we are REALLY thankful for your support (and patience).
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Message 45745 - Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 16:36:53 UTC - in response to Message 45736.  

Last Windows 10 update was a horror // took hours even on a fast ssd // I think it was the "cloud" stuff, which totally messed up the performance of my system.

I feel for you. Have installed W10 for a few people and they all dislike it intensely compared to w7. One day something will work, the next day it won't. Now ms has messed with windows 7 update so that on most new installs we have to jump though hoops to get it running again. Just another dirty trick to force users onto w10 spyware I'm afraid. :-(

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Message 45749 - Posted: 15 Dec 2016, 20:07:40 UTC

Not getting much work. I get a job or two here and there but no solid work.

GTX 1080 and i7 6700k. When I get jobs they take about 3 hours.
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Message 45761 - Posted: 16 Dec 2016, 20:51:00 UTC - in response to Message 45745.  

Google never10 for explanation and free advice.
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Message 45763 - Posted: 16 Dec 2016, 23:00:00 UTC - in response to Message 45745.  

Now ms has messed with windows 7 update so that on most new installs we have to jump though hoops to get it running again. Just another dirty trick to force users onto w10 spyware I'm afraid. :-(

Tell me about it. But I have developed may own anti-MS strategy, and can get it to work (you have to do certain updates and not others). I will hold on to Win7 until they pry it out of my cold dead hands. And I don't care about MS stopping their security updates someday. That will only make it more reliable insofar as I can see.
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Message 45765 - Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 0:14:03 UTC - in response to Message 45745.  
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Last Windows 10 update was a horror // took hours even on a fast ssd // I think it was the "cloud" stuff, which totally messed up the performance of my system.

I feel for you. Have installed W10 for a few people and they all dislike it intensely compared to w7. One day something will work, the next day it won't. Now ms has messed with windows 7 update so that on most new installs we have to jump though hoops to get it running again. Just another dirty trick to force users onto w10 spyware I'm afraid. :-(

I actually think some of my issues started when I installed the "Anniversary Edition Update", but since this new "Cumulative Rollup" to that edition, the PC has been up and down and even not reading one of the cards on the monitoring services (MSI Afterburner, NVIDIA Inspector, Open Hardware Monitor) as being there, even though GPUGRID continues to use the card at full capacity. Sometimes the card or 2 cards or all 3 drop off the Device Manager as not even installed, but continue to work.

I know this time it is not heat as the windows are open and it is 20 some degrees Fahrenheit in that basement. The cards are running at least 20 degrees lower than in the air conditioned summer. The system froze twice last night/this morning and started the WUs from zero. Today the system froze up and dropped all the WUs and then dropped GPUGRID right out of BOINC. I had to add it back in as a project, which wiped the WUs completely. Now upon adding the project back, logogpugrid.png, project1.png, project2.png, and project3.png are simply not downloading at all and it won't get any new WUs until the project's basic files are finished. They retry, back off (for longer each time, now up to over an hour to retry each), and I have never seen this specific issue. Will search the forums for it. I do know that http://www.gpugrid.net/download/filenameofthesePNGfiles does not exist to manually download. Maybe they don't exist at all and that is the problem??? Will check the log to see what url it is trying to get them from. Anyway, the Windows updates as of late for W10 are horrible.

EDIT: It is looking for them at http://www.gpugrid.net/filenameofthesePNGfiles and I get a 404 when trying to get them over a browser connection.
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Message 45776 - Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 14:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 45765.  
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I actually think some of my issues started when I installed the "Anniversary Edition Update", but since this new "Cumulative Rollup" to that edition, the PC has been up and down and even not reading one of the cards on the monitoring services (MSI Afterburner, NVIDIA Inspector, Open Hardware Monitor) as being there, even though GPUGRID continues to use the card at full capacity. Sometimes the card or 2 cards or all 3 drop off the Device Manager as not even installed, but continue to work.

Reinstall Afterburner and NV Inspector, and see if they work.

I know this time it is not heat as the windows are open and it is 20 some degrees Fahrenheit in that basement. The cards are running at least 20 degrees lower than in the air conditioned summer. The system froze twice last night/this morning and started the WUs from zero. Today the system froze up and dropped all the WUs and then dropped GPUGRID right out of BOINC.

Could be a loose GPU or cable (hard drive), Bios playing up... I would begin by doing a cold start (shut down, power of & disconnect the PSU for 1min or so, [check connections are tight] cable up and restart).

I had to add it back in as a project, which wiped the WUs completely. Now upon adding the project back, logogpugrid.png, project1.png, project2.png, and project3.png are simply not downloading at all and it won't get any new WUs until the project's basic files are finished. They retry, back off (for longer each time, now up to over an hour to retry each), and I have never seen this specific issue. Will search the forums for it. I do know that http://www.gpugrid.net/download/filenameofthesePNGfiles does not exist to manually download. Maybe they don't exist at all and that is the problem??? Will check the log to see what url it is trying to get them from. Anyway, the Windows updates as of late for W10 are horrible.

EDIT: It is looking for them at http://www.gpugrid.net/filenameofthesePNGfiles and I get a 404 when trying to get them over a browser connection.

In my project directory (www.gpugrid.net) they are called:
logogpugrid.png
project_1.png
project_2.png
project_3.png
These are also not browsable at http://www.gpugrid.net/project_3.png etc.

<It's a good idea to backup your project directory before resetting any project, but especially this project ATM>

You can download them from here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5rtbxztm2p0u0np/AACw_io2F3hfWvVnQeMigEF3a?dl=0
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Message 45778 - Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 15:41:53 UTC - in response to Message 45763.  

Now ms has messed with windows 7 update so that on most new installs we have to jump though hoops to get it running again. Just another dirty trick to force users onto w10 spyware I'm afraid. :-(

Tell me about it. But I have developed may own anti-MS strategy, and can get it to work (you have to do certain updates and not others).

Care to share your strategy? Maybe a new thread so we don't clog this one up too much?
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Message 45786 - Posted: 18 Dec 2016, 16:11:55 UTC - in response to Message 45778.  

Care to share your strategy? Maybe a new thread so we don't clog this one up too much?

OK, glad to do so. I stuck it in the Number crunching section for lack of a better place, but the moderator may choose to move it.
You may wish to supplement it with you own war stories, as permitted.
http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=4459
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Message 45792 - Posted: 19 Dec 2016, 7:21:36 UTC - in response to Message 45776.  

Reinstall Afterburner and NV Inspector, and see if they work.

Not an issue. Its the card in the middle causing issues. I need to rotate them.

Could be a loose GPU or cable (hard drive), Bios playing up... I would begin by doing a cold start (shut down, power of & disconnect the PSU for 1min or so, [check connections are tight] cable up and restart).

Will try this with the rotate obviously.

<It's a good idea to backup your project directory before resetting any project, but especially this project ATM>

After I posted this, they came through after about 30 minutes or less all together. I will remember this tip to back it all up though when re-adding a project if/when something goes wrong. Thanks.

As far as updates go though, I have 6 systems dead now that are running BOINC that 3 died in the past few weeks since some of these odd updates from Windows across a few versions of Windows. 3 of the systems died on and off across the past year. I need to get the 3 back to the shop when I can get out of the house. 1 of the systems, I need to get it fixed by the people who made it and donated it. I also have to get them to fix a *nix issue on a storage server they also provided. Either way, 1 Win10, 1 Win8.1, 3 Win7, and 1 WinXP machines all dead currently. :-( I expect very shortly my rank as one of the top 3 in the Hosts column will go the way of my rank as top 5 in the User column did. I really need some strength one day to do any of this. It feels like I am so helpless to do any of it being fairly bed ridden now. I really need to beat all this stuff going on and get back to life again soon!!!
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Message 45813 - Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 14:20:17 UTC

I was just watching the download speed on a couple of the new BNBS WUs. They both were hitting about 2Mbps - which for me in the US is very impressive IIRC. No errors, either.
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Message 45814 - Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 14:50:44 UTC

Downloads are hanging anywhere from 0.00% to 92.71% of the download. I've aborted transfers that remain hung for an hour and keep cycling between "Download: active" (with nothing downloading), "Download: pending" (ditto), and the countdowns to when "Download: active" again. Very frustrating. Unproductive, too. My location: NH, USA.
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Message 45820 - Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 20:08:47 UTC - in response to Message 45814.  

Still seeing the debug messages when changing profile settings:

Warning: Creating default object from empty value in /home/ps3grid/projects/PS3GRID/html/inc/prefs_util.inc on line 218

Warning: Creating default object from empty value in /home/ps3grid/projects/PS3GRID/html/inc/prefs_util.inc on line 218

Warning: Creating default object from empty value in /home/ps3grid/projects/PS3GRID/html/inc/prefs_util.inc on line 218

Warning: Creating default object from empty value in /home/ps3grid/projects/PS3GRID/html/project/project_specific_prefs.inc on line 239

Strict Standards: Non-static method DbConn::base_escape_string() should not be called statically in /home/ps3grid/projects/PS3GRID/html/inc/boinc_db.inc on line 94
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Message 45821 - Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 20:15:48 UTC - in response to Message 45814.  
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Downloads are hanging anywhere from 0.00% to 92.71% of the download. I've aborted transfers that remain hung for an hour and keep cycling between "Download: active" (with nothing downloading), "Download: pending" (ditto), and the countdowns to when "Download: active" again. Very frustrating. Unproductive, too. My location: NH, USA.

The time Boinc (the download) Manager waits to retry downloading is random (not that this issue is fundamentally anything to do with BM). Rather than aborting the download, from Boinc Manager try suspending network activity, then enabling it (with a retry now [Transfers Tab], if necessary; might start automatically).
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Message 45831 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 1:39:37 UTC - in response to Message 45821.  

Fired up my PC for GPUgrid and everything is working like a charm. I have the SDOERR BNBS task. It appears to be going very slow right now, though, and I have 87% GPU usage with windows XP and a gtx 960.

I will report the end results when my computer is finished.
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Message 45838 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 13:37:40 UTC

I cannot complete any downloads for either my GTX 650Ti or GTX 660Ti GPUs.

Will try again early in January.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all GPUGrid crunchers.
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Message 45840 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 16:01:59 UTC - in response to Message 45838.  

I cannot complete any downloads for either my GTX 650Ti or GTX 660Ti GPUs.

Will try again early in January.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all GPUGrid crunchers.



What exactly happens? Does it just not go to 100% and get stuck?

And thanks, happy new years to you as well.
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Message 45841 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 16:29:30 UTC

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Message 45842 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 18:24:47 UTC - in response to Message 45814.  

Downloads are hanging anywhere from 0.00% to 92.71% of the download. I've aborted transfers that remain hung for an hour and keep cycling between "Download: active" (with nothing downloading), "Download: pending" (ditto), and the countdowns to when "Download: active" again. Very frustrating. Unproductive, too. My location: NH, USA.



Hello fellow New Hampshirite!

And to keep it relevant, my downloads have been fine so far.
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Message 45846 - Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 21:40:38 UTC - in response to Message 45842.  

I just fired up my other PC with windows 7 and the download speeds are incredibly slow for me as well (4.40kb/s). It's been over an hour downloading.

I've tried suspending boinc and restarting the PC and it was at 44kb/s but went down back to 4.40 kb/s.

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Ok the project is now running for me.
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