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Message 44343 - Posted: 30 Aug 2016, 10:52:20 UTC

Hi Crunchers,

The eagle-eyed amongst you might have noticed the recent appearance of "Python Runtime" as the latest addition to our stable of applications.

* what is it? This app deploys a Python runtime environment based on the Conda python distribution.

* why do we need it? Almost all of our application development is now done in Python. This app will give us a way to reliably deploy and execute our software on GPUGRID volunteers' computers by providing a uniform, known Python environment

* how will it be used? If all works well, we'll be able to quickly test and deploy whole new applications, including replacements for the quantum chemistry and CPU MD applications we have previously experimented with. Being able to rapidly deploy new applications will markedly improve the rate at which our research group can innovate.

For the moment the app is Linux only but we hope to roll it out to Windows once it proves reliable.

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Message 44344 - Posted: 30 Aug 2016, 12:09:40 UTC

So can we expect WUs for AMD cards?
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Message 44345 - Posted: 30 Aug 2016, 14:04:38 UTC - in response to Message 44344.  

So can we expect WUs for AMD cards?


It's something that this new app will help us develop, yes.

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Message 44346 - Posted: 30 Aug 2016, 14:41:51 UTC

GREAT!
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Message 44349 - Posted: 30 Aug 2016, 20:40:38 UTC - in response to Message 44346.  

Both Betas went to the same user. That's quite a finite testing methodology. Might take a while to get round everyone though...
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Message 44350 - Posted: 30 Aug 2016, 23:43:40 UTC - in response to Message 44343.  

* why do we need it? Almost all of our application development is now done in Python. This app will give us a way to reliably deploy and execute our software on GPUGRID volunteers' computers by providing a uniform, known Python environment


Is there anything in particular we need to have installed on our linux machines? Is python already installed by default in linux distributions?
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Message 44356 - Posted: 31 Aug 2016, 12:19:19 UTC - in response to Message 44350.  


Is there anything in particular we need to have installed on our linux machines? Is python already installed by default in linux distributions?


Python distributions and packaging are what's technically known as a catastrophe. We have to deploy our own stand-alone environment to have any hope of getting a reliable base to work from.
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Message 44362 - Posted: 31 Aug 2016, 19:49:00 UTC - in response to Message 44356.  


Is there anything in particular we need to have installed on our linux machines? Is python already installed by default in linux distributions?


Python distributions and packaging are what's technically known as a catastrophe. We have to deploy our own stand-alone environment to have any hope of getting a reliable base to work from.


Ah. So this will be run in a VM? We will need vbox installed? I am trying to understand what is required for the user to install to allow this to work.
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Message 44392 - Posted: 2 Sep 2016, 9:33:45 UTC - in response to Message 44345.  

So can we expect WUs for AMD cards?


It's something that this new app will help us develop, yes.

Matt


Oh, my....
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Message 44393 - Posted: 2 Sep 2016, 9:35:05 UTC - in response to Message 44362.  

Ah. So this will be run in a VM? We will need vbox installed? I am trying to understand what is required for the user to install to allow this to work.


+1
Or they use something like Cosmology@home? Docker app....
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Message 44396 - Posted: 2 Sep 2016, 10:10:14 UTC - in response to Message 44362.  


Ah. So this will be run in a VM? We will need vbox installed?


Oh god please no...
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Message 44398 - Posted: 2 Sep 2016, 11:54:27 UTC

Need more details ...
Will this be deployed as a VM requiring VirtualBox?
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Message 44495 - Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 20:08:54 UTC

Interesting.
Project resumed and waiting for WU.
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Message 44500 - Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 21:23:11 UTC - in response to Message 44495.  

Interesting.
Project resumed and waiting for WU.

Also allowed this project in my prefs.
Python 3 already previously installed (but not Anaconda distrib) because required by some apps...
Waiting...
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Message 44558 - Posted: 20 Sep 2016, 8:38:52 UTC

AFAIK you don't need anything installed. Conda ships it's own python so that we can be consistent and not use the one the user/OS has installed which might be different versions / broken etc.
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Message 44623 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 17:41:18 UTC

0 wu of this beta app.
Why publish this news without work to submit?
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Message 44624 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016, 18:02:31 UTC - in response to Message 44623.  

Because there were some WUs and test with them have been done. Apparently no further tests are needed at the moment, otherwise there'd be new WUs.

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Message 44666 - Posted: 12 Oct 2016, 14:34:52 UTC - in response to Message 44624.  

Because there were some WUs and test with them have been done.


As usual, it seems to me a "paper launch".
How many Android wus have you seen?
How many OpenCl?
Quantum Chemistry?
Anaconda??
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Message 44668 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 2:45:55 UTC

Hi, long time browser, first time poster. Love your work guys.

Just have one niggling question...

Way back late July [url]http://gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=4341&nowrap=true#44031[/url] there was word of a new app for Pascal to take advantage of the new GTX 10x0 GPUs once Cuda 8 was released.

Afaik Cuda 8.0 came out September 28, 2016 (14 days ago) but I can't seem to find anything clear to say that the original app tested with Cuda 8.0 RC is going to be rolled out, or if a new app is being developed to replace it altogether. Given we're mid October and the year is rolling to a close soon, it'd be handy to know what's happening or planned.

It'd be great if someone could have a sticky - Moderator only GPUGRID App Status thread that lets everyone know what's current version, what's in testing, blockers (from stopping rollout) etc. as this would greatly assist in diseminating info out to all those who are treading water with Pascal GPUs (I've 2x Titan X Pascal GPUs myself sitting idle) waiting for a suitable Pascal compatible app release.

Other than that, please keep up the good work.
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