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Message 45883 - Posted: 23 Dec 2016, 23:45:21 UTC - in response to Message 45879.  

I am running openSUSE 42.1 with the 375.20 driver. The card is new.

It's also worth noting that you're using BOINC v7.2.42, which is getting quite elderly (released ~ 28-Feb-2014). It's possible that version may not report all the card and driver information required for the server to make a proper allocation, especially with such a new card. But I haven't checked that yet.
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Message 45887 - Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 4:48:31 UTC

Boinc v7.2.42 is still the recommended version. It detects the card correctly, so there is no reason it should not be able to report this to the server:

15-Dec-2016 21:47:50 [---] CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (driver version unknown, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 6.1, 3036MB, 2931MB available, 6167 GFLOPS peak)
15-Dec-2016 21:47:50 [---] OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (driver version 375.20, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 3036MB, 2931MB available, 6167 GFLOPS peak)


The string "driver version unknown" is surprising, especially since it does detect it correctly on the openCL line, but the card version and compute capability information is there...
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Message 45888 - Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 9:45:43 UTC - in response to Message 45887.  
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7.6.31 is the recommended version for Linux, if that's the issue (the app reads the driver directly at GPUGrid). It's likely in the repository, if you installed Boinc that way.

Alternatively, there might be an issue with that 375 driver - I reverted from 375.26 to 370.28 after experiencing problems with it on Ubuntu. I got the impression 375.26 wasn't fully/correctly built.
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Message 45890 - Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 11:06:35 UTC - in response to Message 45888.  
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Merry Christmas everybody !

Do you know you may allways have the latest Nvidia drivers for Ubuntu by simply executing this command :
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa

See this link for details :

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/08/ubuntu-nvidia-graphics-drivers-ppa-is-ready-for-action

Currently running with 370.28

Hope this helps...
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Message 45897 - Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 17:32:10 UTC - in response to Message 45888.  

7.6.33 is the recommended version for Linux, if that's the issue (the app reads the driver directly at GPUGrid).


I think you are confused with Windows there. The recommended version for Linux is 7.2.42. I am sure the app communicates directly with the driver, but by then it is too late. The server decides the app version, and the cuda65 app cannot handle my hardware.

Alternatively, there might be an issue with that 375 driver.


I don't see any issues with the driver so far. It seems to be fine. The server decides to send tasks for the wrong version of the app to me. That is where the problem is.
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Message 45906 - Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 3:34:28 UTC

7.6.33 is the recommended version for Linux, if that's the issue (the app reads the driver directly at GPUGrid).



I think you are confused with Windows there. The recommended version for Linux is 7.2.42. I am sure the app communicates directly with the driver, but by then it is too late. The server decides the app version, and the cuda65 app cannot handle my hardware.


If you are looking at the Berkeley page (which doesn't get much attention these days), the recommended version is 7.2.42. Using the software installer in Ubuntu Linux, I get 7.6.33.
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Message 45908 - Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 6:12:07 UTC - in response to Message 45890.  

Merry Christmas everybody !

I'll 2nd that!
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Message 45912 - Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 14:58:41 UTC - in response to Message 45908.  
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Happy Christmas.

OpenSUSE 42.1 was released in Nov 2015. Any Boinc version placed into repositories around that time would have been adapted for 42.1 from the latest Berkely versions prior to Nov 2015. However, if someone upgraded to 42.1 then I guess they might be using an even older version.

Perhaps this will prove useful,

http://www.rechenaugust.de/boinc/

http://www.rechenaugust.de/boinc/boinc_7.6.31_x86_64-suse-linux-gnu.sh

The Boinc Manager version in the Ubuntu 16.04 x64 LTS repository is also 7.6.31. That's the recommended version for Ubuntu 16.04 x64 (and according to rechenaugust also works for 42.1). Other similar Linux builds will likely have similar Boinc versions available from repositories.

Generally, repository version available to Linux users depend on the flavour and version of Linux being used. If its a dated version of Linux (or not well supported) then there might not be a new/recent Boinc version in the repositories. If it's a newer/updated version of Linux then the Boinc repo version is likely to be recent.

PS. Yes I meant the repo 7.6.31 Linux version earlier (rather than the 7.6.33 Win version) and yes the Berkeley page isn't updated or as helpful as it might be for Linux users, but it does advise to install from a repository and when you visit from a Linux system and go to the download page (which is visibly different in appearance for Win users) it does again recommend to install a distribution-specific package instead of 7.2.42 (which is unfortunately still described as the recommended version?!?).

I'd updated from 367.57 to 370.28 and then to 375.26 (which didn't work for me), but I also swapped out a 970 and replaced with a 1060-3GB.
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Message 45916 - Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 18:03:35 UTC - in response to Message 45897.  
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The issue with detecting NVIDIA/CUDA driver versions on linux was fixed in BOINC 7.3.16, circa late April 2014. You must run a newer version than that (and I don't believe this fix was ever checked into the 7.2.x branch).

The BOINC home page recommendation is for an older version (7.2.42 is circa Feb 2014).

What is recommended for use here is something like 7.6.31 or 7.6.33.

Link to commit that fixed this:

https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/commit/450f6808800bf6b3f1c0b5d8cfcbf84b0650987a
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Message 45943 - Posted: 28 Dec 2016, 22:22:17 UTC - in response to Message 45912.  

OpenSUSE 42.1 was released in Nov 2015. Any Boinc version placed into repositories around that time would have been adapted for 42.1 from the latest Berkely versions prior to Nov 2015. However, if someone upgraded to 42.1 then I guess they might be using an even older version.


openSUSE Leap 42.1 and 42.2 both ship v7.2.42, while openSUSE Tumbleweed ships v7.6.32 (but Tumbleweed is useless for running GPGPU work as the proprietary drivers would be forever breaking due to the very aggressive kernel updates). So openSUSE Leap seems to be following the Boinc recommendation.

PS - it makes no difference if you installed openSUSE from scratch or upgraded from an older version, you will always get the latest version of a package in the repository (it would be too difficult to manage the security fixes otherwise). But if you installed boinc from a third-party site, then the openSUSE installer will leave that alone of course.

http://www.rechenaugust.de/boinc/boinc_7.6.31_x86_64-suse-linux-gnu.sh


I installed this, and so far it seems to do the trick and solve my problem. It is worrying though that I have to rely on a third-party site to get a working version of Boinc. This is not exactly what I would think linux support should look like...

Thanks for the link!
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Message 45968 - Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 17:23:52 UTC - in response to Message 45943.  


openSUSE Leap 42.1 and 42.2 both ship v7.2.42, while openSUSE Tumbleweed ships v7.6.32 (but Tumbleweed is useless for running GPGPU work as the proprietary drivers would be forever breaking due to the very aggressive kernel updates). So openSUSE Leap seems to be following the Boinc recommendation.


The Nvidia driver will register itself with DKMS (if that's installed) so that it gets rebuilt every time the machine is rebootedf with a new kernel installed.

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Message 45974 - Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 19:46:36 UTC - in response to Message 45968.  

The Nvidia driver will register itself with DKMS (if that's installed) so that it gets rebuilt every time the machine is rebooted with a new kernel installed.


Indeed, but that will only work if the kernel is supported. If the kernel is too new, it can break the build. I fear that will happen quite a lot with Tumbleweed due to its very aggressive bleeding edge kernel support (haven't tried this, but I am pretty sure that will happen). The people at Suse themselves warn that they make no effort to keep the proprietary drivers alive in Tumbleweed.

But the automatic rebuilds work quite well in openSUSE Leap.
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