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Message 43856 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016, 20:56:26 UTC

Hi,

I've upgraded from Nvidia 970 to 1070. Tasks stop now with a computing error.

https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15185064

# GPU [GeForce GTX 1070] Platform [Windows] Rev [3212] VERSION [65]
# SWAN Device 0 :
# Name : GeForce GTX 1070
# ECC : Disabled
# Global mem : 4095MB
# Capability : 6.1
# PCI ID : 0000:03:00.0
# Device clock : 1746MHz
# Memory clock : 4004MHz
# Memory width : 256bit
# Driver version : r368_35 : 36839
#SWAN: FATAL: cannot find image for module [.nonbonded.cu.] for device version 610

Is the 1070 GPU supported?
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Message 43859 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016, 7:20:20 UTC - in response to Message 43856.  



Is the 1070 GPU supported?


The GPUGrid App has not been adapted for Pascal GPU's yet so your 1070 will not work on this project until it has.
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Message 43866 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016, 15:50:52 UTC - in response to Message 43859.  

A year ago I wrote "I've a GTX660 (I5; windows 7 64bit ) that I use only for crunching and I'm thinking about upgrading to a GTX970...".

At the end, as my case was too small for a GTX970, I didn't upgrade (waiting for the Pascal architecture) Now I've decided to get a bigger case and a GTX1070 but I need some advice:

- Does anyone know when Gpugrid will be adapted for Pascal? Days? Weeks? Months?

- Until 29th July I have a free upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. If I do, I will crunch better? Is worth to do it?

Thanks to all in advance (specially to Skgiven for previous advices)
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Message 43869 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016, 17:16:21 UTC - in response to Message 43866.  

- Does anyone know when Gpugrid will be adapted for Pascal? Days? Weeks? Months?
Nobody knows. My guess it will take 1-2 Months.

- Until 29th July I have a free upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. If I do, I will crunch better? Is worth to do it?
Your PC won't crunch better with Windows 10 (for now). However it is worth to update to Windows 10 for other reasons (The support for Windows 7 will end in 2019). If you would run into problems after upgrading, you have 1 month to return to Windows 7. As a part of the upgrade process your PC will acquire a Windows 10 license, so you can install Windows 10 any time later.
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Message 43871 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016, 17:20:38 UTC - in response to Message 43869.  

- Does anyone know when Gpugrid will be adapted for Pascal? Days? Weeks? Months?
Nobody knows. My guess it will take 1-2 Months.

- Until 29th July I have a free upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. If I do, I will crunch better? Is worth to do it?
Your PC won't crunch better with Windows 10 (for now). However it is worth to update to Windows 10 for other reasons (The support for Windows 7 will end in 2019). If you would run into problems after upgrading, you have 1 month to return to Windows 7. As a part of the upgrade process your PC will acquire a Windows 10 license, so you can install Windows 10 any time later.



That has me thinking...

Should I upgrade, or will it use my cpu too much compared to 7?

I have core i5 650... might be a bit old for windows 10
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Message 43874 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016, 22:12:03 UTC

OK, I've tried some other projects, so far only SETI works on it. I'll switch back to GPUgrid when Pascal support is available.

My 2 cents on the Windows question: For crunching, the Windows version doesn't matter. But, to squeeze out your machine, you can uninstall any software you don't need, disable unused services, tasks and Windows features. Just save any non crunching related task switch or CPU cycle.. :-)

I'm always using the latest Windows version on the latest patch level. Because of dev tools support, features, games, e.g...

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Message 43875 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016, 22:16:36 UTC - in response to Message 43871.  

Should I upgrade, or will it use my cpu too much compared to 7?

It won't use your CPU more than Windows 7 does.

I have core i5 650... might be a bit old for windows 10

It's not old for Windows 10. I've upgraded many PCs, including some with Core2Duo CPUs.
Windows 10 is actually *faster* than Windows 7. (More exactly it reacts much faster to user actions)
An SSD drive is recommended either for Windows 7 or 10.
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Message 43878 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016, 23:07:10 UTC - in response to Message 43875.  

Should I upgrade, or will it use my cpu too much compared to 7?

It won't use your CPU more than Windows 7 does.

I have core i5 650... might be a bit old for windows 10

It's not old for Windows 10. I've upgraded many PCs, including some with Core2Duo CPUs.
Windows 10 is actually *faster* than Windows 7. (More exactly it reacts much faster to user actions)
An SSD drive is recommended either for Windows 7 or 10.


Perfect, I'm using an ssd right now.

Thank you.
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Message 43879 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016, 7:46:32 UTC - in response to Message 43869.  
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Nobody knows. My guess it will take 1-2 Months.


Thank you for your guess and advice.

I think I will migrate to Windows 10 now and wait until GPUGrid manage Pascal to upgrade to GTX1070
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Message 43908 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016, 21:09:06 UTC - in response to Message 43879.  

Nobody knows. My guess it will take 1-2 Months.


Thank you for your guess and advice.

I think I will migrate to Windows 10 now and wait until GPUGrid manage Pascal to upgrade to GTX1070

Yes. Do that. The 1070 doesn't work here yet, so there is no point buying it now to crunch here. It may also fall in price and future reviews might help you chose which manufacturer model to get.
The W10 upgrade is free and W10 will be the last MS OS and thus supported for a long time. IMO almost everyone with a W7 or W8 system should be upgrading ASAP.
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Message 43919 - Posted: 8 Jul 2016, 21:43:37 UTC - in response to Message 43908.  
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...The W10 upgrade is free and W10 will be the last MS OS and thus supported for a long time. IMO almost everyone with a W7 or W8 system should be upgrading ASAP.


Windows 10 will not be the last OS as Windows 10 current "end of life" is expected to occur in 2025. Please refer the the official Windows lifecycle fact sheet here:https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet
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Message 43920 - Posted: 8 Jul 2016, 22:50:24 UTC - in response to Message 43919.  
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...The W10 upgrade is free and W10 will be the last MS OS and thus supported for a long time. IMO almost everyone with a W7 or W8 system should be upgrading ASAP.

Windows 10 will not be the last OS as Windows 10 current "end of life" is expected to occur in 2025. Please refer the the official Windows lifecycle fact sheet here:https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet

You did not read carefully the page you've linked.
The support period ends in October 14, 2025 for "Windows 10, released in July 2015", which is the previous release of Windows 10 (10.0.10240). The current release is the 10.0.10586 aka "v1511" from November 2015. Both version is codenamed "Threshold".
Microsoft will release a new version of Windows 10 in the next month (right after the free upgrade period ends), called v1607.
Though these operating systems are more or less different (especially those with different codenames), all of these will be called Windows 10, and probably their major releases will have their own 10-year support period. "Windows 10 is the last Microsoft operating system" is principally a merchandising slogan, it is also acts as a "trick" which allows Microsoft to maintain their upgrading policy, which says there are no free upgrades to a new major Windows version. It is said to be a one time opportunity to upgrade Windows 7, 8, 8.1 to Windows 10 for free. But you can upgrade your Windows 10 for free to its new version every time Microsoft releases one, until your hardware is supported with drivers from their respective manufacturers. In technical sense (according to Microsoft's previous practice) the different codename means different OS, so the upcoming release (codenamed "Redstone") could have been called Windows 11. But instead of changing their upgrading policy to allow free upgrades between major Windows versions, they're saying Windows 10 is the last OS they make, however the OS will evolve "silently" as differently codenamed versions will be released under the same "title". Another change is there won't be service packs in the future, but major releases will be more frequent (about every year).
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Message 43928 - Posted: 10 Jul 2016, 16:15:40 UTC - in response to Message 43874.  

OK, I've tried some other projects, so far only SETI works on it.

Einstein and POEM should work as well.

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Message 43932 - Posted: 11 Jul 2016, 5:29:14 UTC

also Collatz works well
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Message 43934 - Posted: 11 Jul 2016, 15:36:11 UTC - in response to Message 43920.  

Another change is there won't be service packs in the future, but major releases will be more frequent (about every year).

That part is worthwhile. We can just download the most recent version when we need to install the OS, rather than downloading years of updates.

I am a bit worried that they will be taking more control away from us, but have learned to undo the ill effects of Win10, and can not upgrade to the next version if necessary. I am not anti-Microsoft, but the company has changed over the last few years, and we need to keep an eye on them.
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Message 43936 - Posted: 11 Jul 2016, 18:57:08 UTC - in response to Message 43934.  

Another change is there won't be service packs in the future, but major releases will be more frequent (about every year).

That part is worthwhile. We can just download the most recent version when we need to install the OS, rather than downloading years of updates.

Then you will be delighted to hear that the updates comes to Win10 are cumulative, so there is only a big one (for the OS itself), and some smaller ones (for the antivirus etc) even for a fresh install.

I am a bit worried that they will be taking more control away from us, but have learned to undo the ill effects of Win10, and can not upgrade to the next version if necessary. I am not anti-Microsoft, but the company has changed over the last few years, and we need to keep an eye on them.

They have adopted what Google (Android OS), and Apple (Mac OS and iOS) are doing for a couple of years.
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Message 43937 - Posted: 11 Jul 2016, 20:59:09 UTC - in response to Message 43936.  

They have adopted what Google (Android OS), and Apple (Mac OS and iOS) are doing for a couple of years.

Yes, but Google has already taken over the world.
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Message 43964 - Posted: 14 Jul 2016, 22:15:45 UTC - in response to Message 43934.  
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Another change is there won't be service packs in the future, but major releases will be more frequent (about every year).

That part is worthwhile. We can just download the most recent version when we need to install the OS, rather than downloading years of updates.

I am a bit worried that they will be taking more control away from us, but have learned to undo the ill effects of Win10, and can not upgrade to the next version if necessary. I am not anti-Microsoft, but the company has changed over the last few years, and we need to keep an eye on them.

I would highly recommend to anyone who is contemplating upgrading to 10 that you read this article first.

http://betanews.com/2016/02/06/windows-10-phones-home-a-lot-even-with-all-reporting-and-telemetry-disabled/

Another tidbit is that your free upgrade will only be free if you don't change any major hardware. If you do be prepared to possibly pay for a license.

If you change the Motherboard, it will be considered a new device. In this case, you will not be able to get the Windows 10 activated automatically. You can contact the Microsoft tech support, but it may still be not accepted. You might have to buy a license for activating Windows 10 in case of motherboard change.


I've already switched all my DC machines to dual boot 7/Linux and my 1 remaining full time Windoze machine is XP. If ATI can ever come up with decent driver support for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS then there will be no more dual boot setups. I will never upgrade to 10, 11, 12, whatever.
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Message 43965 - Posted: 14 Jul 2016, 22:42:45 UTC - in response to Message 43964.  
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We're getting far off topic.

I would highly recommend to anyone who is contemplating upgrading to 10 that you read this article first.

http://betanews.com/2016/02/06/windows-10-phones-home-a-lot-even-with-all-reporting-and-telemetry-disabled/

Anyone who is concerned about their privacy please never ever register to Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, Youtube, Gmail, iTunes, Snapchat, MySpace or any similar "social network". Also, never ever use a cellphone. No, not a smartphone, a good old GSM cellphone's metadata also tells about your social life a lot. Always pay and receive payment in cash. No credit/debit cards, or money checks. Also, do not post your views about anything on public forums.

Another tidbit is that your free upgrade will only be free if you don't change any major hardware. If you do be prepared to possibly pay for a license.

If you change the Motherboard, it will be considered a new device. In this case, you will not be able to get the Windows 10 activated automatically. You can contact the Microsoft tech support, but it may still be not accepted. You might have to buy a license for activating Windows 10 in case of motherboard change.

That is obvious, especially for an OEM license, which by its definition becomes the part of the computer on activation. The activation binds your license to the different IDs of the parts (for example the MAC address of the network card, or the type of the chipset). If you change a Motherboard under an activated Windows 7 OEM, you can't activate it online (automatically) again, but you can do it by making a phone call, and making a statement that the new copy is the only one in operation.
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Message 43967 - Posted: 15 Jul 2016, 0:25:30 UTC
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Anyone who is concerned about their privacy please never ever register to Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, Youtube, Gmail, iTunes, Snapchat, MySpace or any similar "social network". Also, never ever use a cellphone. No, not a smartphone, a good old GSM cellphone's metadata also tells about your social life a lot. Always pay and receive payment in cash. No credit/debit cards, or money checks. Also, do not post your views about anything on public forums.


So, by that logic because everyone/everything else is already spying on us Microsoft should be able to join in without your knowledge or consent and charge you monthly for it? If that works for you have at it. I say NFW. And I hope you're not gullible enough to believe monthly fees won't eventually happen to all versions of 10.

Microsoft Confirms Windows 10 New Monthly Charge
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