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Message 43393 - Posted: 13 May 2016, 0:11:09 UTC - in response to Message 43391.  

100.440 Natoms 16h 36m 46s (59.806s) 903.900 credits (GTX980Ti)
Is 903,900 the most credit ever given to an ACEMD WU?
I think it is so far.
There is a larger model which contains 101.237 atoms, and this could generate 911,100 credits with the +50% bonus. Unfortunately one of my slower (GTX980) host received one such task, and it has been processed under 90,589 seconds (25h 9m 49s) (plus the time it spent queued), so it has earned "only" +25% bonus, resulting in "only" 759,250 credits.
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Message 43394 - Posted: 13 May 2016, 2:06:50 UTC - in response to Message 43393.  

100.440 Natoms 16h 36m 46s (59.806s) 903.900 credits (GTX980Ti)
Is 903,900 the most credit ever given to an ACEMD WU?
I think it is so far.
There is a larger model which contains 101.237 atoms, and this could generate 911,100 credits with the +50% bonus. Unfortunately one of my slower (GTX980) host received one such task, and it has been processed under 90,589 seconds (25h 9m 49s) (plus the time it spent queued), so it has earned "only" +25% bonus, resulting in "only" 759,250 credits.



I got that beat with 113536 Natoms. It took my computer over 30 hours to complete, so I lost the 50% bonus. I actually got 2 of them. See links below:


https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15092125

https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15092126


Anyone have anything bigger?


This was actually fun. Let's do it again, but put it into the super long category.



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Message 43395 - Posted: 13 May 2016, 6:52:59 UTC - in response to Message 43394.  

I got that beat with 113536 Natoms. It took my computer over 30 hours to complete, so I lost the 50% bonus.
Wow, that would get 1.021.800 credits with the +50% bonus. I hope that one of my GTX980Ti hosts will receive such a workunit :)
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Message 43396 - Posted: 13 May 2016, 7:58:31 UTC - in response to Message 43395.  

717000 credits (with 25% bonus) was the highest I received. Would have been 860700 if returned inside 24h, but would require a bigger card.
On Linux or Win XP I'm sure a GTX970 could return some of these inside 24h.

Might have got the lowest credit though ;p
73318 Natoms 9.184 ns/day:

15097992 10 May 2016 | 20:17:32 UTC 12 May 2016 | 0:29:05 UTC 91,659.53 91,074.92 275,000.00
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Message 43399 - Posted: 13 May 2016, 14:18:02 UTC

Mines bigger, 117122 Natoms took around 24 hours, 878,500.00 credits with the 25% bonus.
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Message 43403 - Posted: 13 May 2016, 19:23:20 UTC - in response to Message 43396.  

717000 credits (with 25% bonus) was the highest I received. Would have been 860700 if returned inside 24h, but would require a bigger card.
On Linux or Win XP I'm sure a GTX970 could return some of these inside 24h.

Might have got the lowest credit though ;p
73318 Natoms 9.184 ns/day:

15097992 10 May 2016 | 20:17:32 UTC 12 May 2016 | 0:29:05 UTC 91,659.53 91,074.92 275,000.00

Have completed 14 of the OPM, including 6 of the 91848 Natoms size with credit of only 275,500 each (no bonuses). They took well over twice the time of earlier WUs that yielded >200,000 credits. Haven't seen any of the huge credit variety being discussed.
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Message 43404 - Posted: 13 May 2016, 20:15:50 UTC - in response to Message 43399.  
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Mines bigger, 117122 Natoms took around 24 hours, 878,500.00 credits with the 25% bonus.
That would get 1.054.200 credits if returned under 24h.
As I see these workunits are running out, only those remain which are processed by slow hosts.
We may receive some when the 5 days deadline expires.
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Message 43405 - Posted: 13 May 2016, 20:21:19 UTC - in response to Message 43396.  
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Might have got the lowest credit though ;p
73318 Natoms 9.184 ns/day:

15097992 10 May 2016 | 20:17:32 UTC 12 May 2016 | 0:29:05 UTC 91,659.53 91,074.92 275,000.00
You're not even close :)
2k72R5-SDOERR_opm996-0-1-RND1700_0 137.850 credits (including 50% bonus) 30637 atoms 3.017 ns/day 10M steps
2lbgR1-SDOERR_opm996-0-1-RND1419_0 130.350 credits (including 50% bonus) 28956 atoms 2.002 ns/day 10M steps
2lbgR0-SDOERR_opm996-0-1-RND9460_0 130.350 credits (including 50% bonus) 28956 atoms 2.027 ns/day 10M steps
2kbvR0-SDOERR_opm996-0-1-RND1815_1 129.900 credits (including 50% bonus) 28872 Natoms 1.937 ns/day 10M steps
1vf6R5-SDOERR_opm998-0-1-RND7439_0 122.550 credits (including 50% bonus) 54487 Natoms 5.002 ns/day 5M steps
1kqwR7-SDOERR_opm998-0-1-RND9523_1 106.650 credits (including 50% bonus) 47409 atoms 4.533 ns/day 5M steps
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Message 43406 - Posted: 14 May 2016, 4:33:50 UTC - in response to Message 43355.  

My GPU(s) current (opm996 long WU) estimated total Runtime. Completion rate (based on) 12~24hours of real-time crunching.

2r83R1 (GTX970) = 27hr 45min (3.600% per 1hr @ 70% GPU usage / 1501MHz)
1bakR0 (GTX970) = 23hr 30min (4.320% per 1hr @ 65% / 1501MHz)
1u27R2 (GTX750) = 40hr (2.520% per 1hr @ 80% / 1401MHz)
2I35R5 (GT650m) = 70hr (1.433% per 1hr @ 75% / 790MHz)

Newer (Beta) BOINC clients introduced an (accurate) per min or hour progress rate feature - available in advanced view (task proprieties) commands bar.

The OPM WUs spelled the death knell for my last 2 super-clocked 650 Ti GPUs. They weren't too bad with the earlier WUs but were ridiculously slow with the OPMs. Probably due to having only 1GB of memory. Anyway, pulled them out of the machines. Down to a flock (perhaps: gaggle, pack, herd, swarm, pod?) of 2GB 750 Ti cards and a 670. Also noticed that machines with only 1 NV GPU processed the OPMs faster. This wasn't the case for earlier WUs.
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Message 43409 - Posted: 14 May 2016, 9:33:37 UTC - in response to Message 43406.  
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My GPU(s) current (opm996 long WU) estimated total Runtime. Completion rate (based on) 12~24hours of real-time crunching.

2r83R1 (GTX970) = 27hr 45min (3.600% per 1hr @ 70% GPU usage / 1501MHz)
1bakR0 (GTX970) = 23hr 30min (4.320% per 1hr @ 65% / 1501MHz)
1u27R2 (GTX750) = 40hr (2.520% per 1hr @ 80% / 1401MHz)
2I35R5 (GT650m) = 70hr (1.433% per 1hr @ 75% / 790MHz)

Newer (Beta) BOINC clients introduced an (accurate) per min or hour progress rate feature - available in advanced view (task proprieties) commands bar.

It's there in 7.6.22 (non-beta). For the GERARD_FXCXCL tasks it's about 8% on my 970's.

The OPM WUs spelled the death knell for my last 2 super-clocked 650 Ti GPUs. They weren't too bad with the earlier WUs but were ridiculously slow with the OPMs. Probably due to having only 1GB of memory. Anyway, pulled them out of the machines. Down to a flock (perhaps: gaggle, pack, herd, swarm, pod?) of 2GB 750 Ti cards and a 670.

Clutch, brood, rookery, skulk, crash, congregation, sleuth, school, shoal, army, quiver, gang, pride, bank, bouquet.

Also noticed that machines with only 1 NV GPU processed the OPMs faster. This wasn't the case for earlier WUs.

Probably due to the increased bus and CPU usage. I tried to alleviate this by freeing up more CPU and increasing the GDDR5 freq., but the GPU clocks could run higher too, due to slightly less GPU and power usage.
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Message 43415 - Posted: 14 May 2016, 23:55:08 UTC - in response to Message 43395.  
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I got that beat with 113536 Natoms. It took my computer over 30 hours to complete, so I lost the 50% bonus.
Wow, that would get 1.021.800 credits with the +50% bonus. I hope that one of my GTX980Ti hosts will receive such a workunit :)
I was lucky to get one such workunit on a GTX980Ti host.
It's 64.5% processed under 12 hours, so it will take ~18h 30m to complete.
I keep my fingers crossed :) We'll see the result in the morning.
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Message 43417 - Posted: 15 May 2016, 0:37:37 UTC - in response to Message 43409.  

My GPU(s) current (opm996 long WU) estimated total Runtime. Completion rate (based on) 12~24hours of real-time crunching.

2r83R1 (GTX970) = 27hr 45min (3.600% per 1hr @ 70% GPU usage / 1501MHz)
1bakR0 (GTX970) = 23hr 30min (4.320% per 1hr @ 65% / 1501MHz)
1u27R2 (GTX750) = 40hr (2.520% per 1hr @ 80% / 1401MHz)
2I35R5 (GT650m) = 70hr (1.433% per 1hr @ 75% / 790MHz)

Newer (Beta) BOINC clients introduced an (accurate) per min or hour progress rate feature - available in advanced view (task proprieties) commands bar.

It's there in 7.6.22 (non-beta). For the GERARD_FXCXCL tasks it's about 8% on my 970's.

The OPM WUs spelled the death knell for my last 2 super-clocked 650 Ti GPUs. They weren't too bad with the earlier WUs but were ridiculously slow with the OPMs. Probably due to having only 1GB of memory. Anyway, pulled them out of the machines. Down to a flock (perhaps: gaggle, pack, herd, swarm, pod?) of 2GB 750 Ti cards and a 670.

Clutch, brood, rookery, skulk, crash, congregation, sleuth, school, shoal, army, quiver, gang, pride, bank, bouquet.

Also noticed that machines with only 1 NV GPU processed the OPMs faster. This wasn't the case for earlier WUs.

Probably due to the increased bus and CPU usage. I tried to alleviate this by freeing up more CPU and increasing the GDDR5 freq., but the GPU clocks could run higher too, due to slightly less GPU and power usage.

Waiting on (2) formerly Timed out OPM to finish up on my 970's (23hr & 25hr estimated runtime). OPM WU was sent after hot day then cool evening ocean breeze -97 error GERARD_FXCXCL (50C GTX970) bent the knee for May sun.

I was lucky to get one such workunit.
It's 64.5% processed under 12 hours, so it will take ~18h 30m to complete.
I keep my fingers crossed :) We'll see the result in the morning.

960MB & 1020MB GDDR5 for each of my current OPM (60~80k Natoms guess).



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Message 43419 - Posted: 15 May 2016, 7:30:25 UTC - in response to Message 43415.  

I got that beat with 113536 Natoms. It took my computer over 30 hours to complete, so I lost the 50% bonus.
Wow, that would get 1.021.800 credits with the +50% bonus. I hope that one of my GTX980Ti hosts will receive such a workunit :)
I was lucky to get one such workunit on a GTX980Ti host.
It's 64.5% processed under 12 hours, so it will take ~18h 30m to complete.
I keep my fingers crossed :) We'll see the result in the morning.
I'm happy to report that the workunit finished fine:
1sujR0-SDOERR_opm996-0-1-RND0758_1 1.021.800 credits (including 50% bonus), 67.146 sec (18h 39m 6s), 113536 atoms 6.707 ns/day
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Message 43421 - Posted: 15 May 2016, 7:55:40 UTC - in response to Message 43419.  

1.021.800 credits ...

you lucky one :-)
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Message 43422 - Posted: 15 May 2016, 8:07:45 UTC - in response to Message 43417.  
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Waiting on (2) formerly Timed out OPM to finish up on my 970's (23hr & 25hr estimated runtime). OPM WU was sent after hot day then cool evening ocean breeze -97 error GERARD_FXCXCL (50C GTX970) bent the knee for May sun.
Your GPUs are too hot. Your GT 630 reaches 80°C (176°F), while in your laptop your GT650M reaches 93°C (199°F) which is crazy.
Your host with 4 GPUs has two GTX970s, a GTX 750 and a GT630.
There's no point in risking the stability of the simulations running on your fast GPUs by putting low-end GPUs in the same host.
Packing 4 GPU to a single PC for 24/7 crunching requires water cooling, (or PCIe riser cards to make breathing space between the cards).
Crunching on laptops is not recommended. But if you do, you should place your laptop on its side while not in use, to make the air outlet facing up and the bottom of the laptop vertical (so the fan could take more air in). You should also regularly clean the fan & the fins with compressed air.
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Message 43423 - Posted: 15 May 2016, 8:24:54 UTC - in response to Message 43419.  
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Finally recieved an opm task that should finish inside 24h, 4fkdR3-SDOERR_opm996-0-1-RND2483_1

15093814 301215 9 May 2016 | 13:45:43 UTC 14 May 2016 | 13:42:45 UTC Not started by deadline - canceled

15103320 139265 14 May 2016 | 15:52:05 UTC 19 May 2016 | 15:52:05 UTC In progress...

Yes, it had been hiding on a system that appears to be designed to impede this project:

15093841 11594330 9 May 2016 | 13:45:43 UTC 14 May 2016 | 13:42:45 UTC Not started by deadline - canceled
15093816 11594305 9 May 2016 | 13:45:43 UTC 14 May 2016 | 13:42:45 UTC Not started by deadline - canceled
15093815 11594304 9 May 2016 | 13:45:43 UTC 14 May 2016 | 13:42:45 UTC Not started by deadline - canceled
15093814 11594303 9 May 2016 | 13:45:43 UTC 14 May 2016 | 13:42:45 UTC Not started by deadline - canceled
15083618 11586584 25 Apr 2016 | 23:06:12 UTC 30 Apr 2016 | 23:02:34 UTC Not started by deadline - canceled

If you don't learn from history...

... Completed and validated 59,953.27 59,504.36 182,100.00 - oh well.
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Message 43424 - Posted: 15 May 2016, 8:35:58 UTC - in response to Message 43422.  

Waiting on (2) formerly Timed out OPM to finish up on my 970's (23hr & 25hr estimated runtime). OPM WU was sent after hot day then cool evening ocean breeze -97 error GERARD_FXCXCL (50C GTX970) bent the knee for May sun.
Your GPUs are too hot. Your GT 630 reaches 80°C (176°F), while in your laptop your GT650M reaches 93°C (199°F) which is crazy.
Your host with 4 GPUs has two GTX970s, a GTX 750 and a GT630.
There's no point in risking the stability of the simulations running on your fast GPUs by putting low-end GPUs in the same host.
Packing 4 GPU to a single PC for 24/7 crunching requires water cooling, (or PCIe riser cards to make breathing space between the cards).
Crunching on laptops is not recommended. But if you do, you should place your laptop on its side while not in use, to make the air outlet facing up and the bottom of the laptop vertical (so the fan could take more air in). You should also regularly clean the fan & the fins with compressed air.


Heed the good advice!

Note that 93C is the GPU's temperature cut-off point. The GPU self-throttles to protect itself because it's dangerously hot. It doesn't have a cut-off point to protect the rest of the system and GPU's are Not designed to run at high temps continuously. Use temperature and fan controlling apps such as NVIDIA Inspector and MSI Afterburner to protect your hardware.
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Message 43425 - Posted: 15 May 2016, 9:33:23 UTC - in response to Message 43419.  

I got that beat with 113536 Natoms. It took my computer over 30 hours to complete, so I lost the 50% bonus.
Wow, that would get 1.021.800 credits with the +50% bonus. I hope that one of my GTX980Ti hosts will receive such a workunit :)
I was lucky to get one such workunit on a GTX980Ti host.
It's 64.5% processed under 12 hours, so it will take ~18h 30m to complete.
I keep my fingers crossed :) We'll see the result in the morning.
I'm happy to report that the workunit finished fine:
1sujR0-SDOERR_opm996-0-1-RND0758_1 1.021.800 credits (including 50% bonus), 67.146 sec (18h 39m 6s), 113536 atoms 6.707 ns/day



I also got another big one: 3pp2R9-SDOERR_opm996-0-1-RND0623_1 Run time 80,841.79 CPU time 80,414.03 120040 Natoms Credit 1,080,300.00

https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15102827


This was done on my windows 10 machine in under 24 hours with 50% bonus while working on this unit on the other card: 3um7R7-SDOERR_opm996-0-1-RND5030_1 Run time 67,202.94 CPU time 66,809.66 91343 Natoms Credit 822,000.00

https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15102779


Though, this did cost me my number 1 position in the performance tab.


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Though, this did cost me my number 1 position in the performance tab.
Never mind! :D
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Message 43428 - Posted: 15 May 2016, 11:25:52 UTC

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Congrats to No. 1 of the TOP Crunchers ;-)
By the way: Does anybody knows what happened to Stoneageman? Sunk silently in the ground?

Got one of the looser-files again: https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15103135. Only 171,150 Credits for a runtime of 64,394.64

Now I've got this one: https://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=15104507 Haw can I see if it's a good ore a bad one?
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