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I'm running short of WUs!!
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EdboardSend message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I have a PC with two PCIe slots and a Nvidia GTX280 in each one. I have a two cores CPU, so I can crunch two WUs at at time in GPUGRID. The problem is that I'm not getting enough WU to be crunching continuosly. I can do 7 WUs a day in total, which is less than my 8 WUs a day limit. But I NEVER has any WU waiting to be crunched (in adition to those being crunched) and, STILL MORE, now I'm without any unit at all, with two GPUs doing NOTHING. What can I do? Is the project running short of units? Other kind of BOINC projects that I'm running, have many WUs waiting to be processed. |
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Once we have a stable new BOINC release and all the other client changes, which are already in the pipeline, it is hopefully on the developers list to change this policy to something like "at least 2 concurrent WUs per CUDA device". MrS Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002 |
GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
For the time being I will increase the limit from 8 to 10. gdf |
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I think he's running into the limit of 1 concurrent WU per CPU, not the overall quota (but increasing it to 10 is not a bad idea anyway). So with 2 cores and 2 GPUs he can't have a cache and gets idle time as soon as the WU-transfer and scheduler contact take some time. MrS Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002 |
EdboardSend message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I think he's running into the limit of 1 concurrent WU per CPU, not the overall quota (but increasing it to 10 is not a bad idea anyway). So with 2 cores and 2 GPUs he can't have a cache and gets idle time as soon as the WU-transfer and scheduler contact take some time. Yes, but the problem is that my PC remains more than two hours idle waiting for more WUs. Then I transfer it to FOLDING and try GPUGRID some more hours later. |
EdboardSend message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Until "at least 2 concurrent WUs per CUDA device" get into scene, I have one GPU crunching for GPUGRID while the other one is crunching for FOLDING. |
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Seems like the best solution for you for now. Do you know how to teach BOINc to use only 1 of 2 GPUs? MrS Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002 |
GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
We are looking for solutions of this problem. gdf |
UL1Send message Joined: 16 Sep 07 Posts: 56 Credit: 35,013,195 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Similar prob over here: running two 9800 GX2 = 4 GPUs (and today was the first day they ran without errors)...and there are no WUs waiting... |
EdboardSend message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Do you know how to teach BOINc to use only 1 of 2 GPUs? No. I have put a 1 core limit to the client, which is automatically used by GPUGRID to run one GPU. The handicap is that I have the other core doing only FOLDING, which means 80% of it useless. I have intented to limit the cores to 1 using the GPUGRID web configuration, so the other one can be used by other BOINC projects, but it doesn't work (really it is default configuration). |
EdboardSend message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I upgraded to version .14 and the problem with scheduling is worst now. I have been more than 24 hours crunching only one WU (one GPU crunching and one GPU doing nothing). Now my two GPUs are idle. It has spent more than 5 hours and there is no WU to crunch. Theoretically this PC can do more than 7 WUs a day if it would be fed constanly. |
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Why are you not getting new WUs? Your host sems to be this one, which has a daily quota of 10 (the maximum). Is BOINC not requesting new work or is the scheduler denying them? MrS Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002 |
EdboardSend message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Why are you not getting new WUs? Your host sems to be this one, which has a daily quota of 10 (the maximum). Is BOINC not requesting new work or is the scheduler denying them? Yes, the PC is that one. I'm getting WUs, but at a "slow pace". I have received in the meanwhile (since I wrote my last post) two more units after the computer has been almost 9 hours with both GPUs idle. Now it is crunching these both WUs, but dued to the "1 WU by CPU" limit, as I have a Intel 8500(two cores), I have not received more units and have no one "in reserve", so surely the problem will repeat when these WUs will be completed (I last 7 hours to process a WU). I don't understand those "9 hours" lag in download units. |
koschiSend message Joined: 14 Aug 08 Posts: 127 Credit: 913,858,161 RAC: 15 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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When this happens to me, (hitting the 2 WU limit, which normaly only happens when the project is down) and my GPU goes idle I update the project once in the project tab. Then its immediatelly reporting the finished units and gets new ones... What you could do is setting a task in the windows task planer (no idea how its really called), for the following command to be executed once each hour... c:/path/to/your/boinc/boinccmd.exe --project http://www.ps3grid.net update Its just a temporary solution until the projects hands out units based on the number of GPUs, not CPUs... |
EdboardSend message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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No, I tried it manually many times and the answer is "get 0 tasks". I only receive task when the scheduler wants... |
Stefan LedwinaSend message Joined: 16 Jul 07 Posts: 464 Credit: 298,573,998 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Does BOINC ask for work if you click on the update button and you get the "got 0 tasks" answer from the server? How does you resource share look like for PS3GRID and the other projects? How have you set the options "connect to the internet every n days" and "maintain enough work for an additional n days"? pixelicious.at - my little photoblog |
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No, I tried it manually many times and the answer is "get 0 tasks". I only receive task when the scheduler wants...I've just had the same happen on my quad core. I got around it by suspending the other active project (seti) and then PS3Grid immediately requested more work. |
EdboardSend message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Does BOINC ask for work if you click on the update button and you get the "got 0 tasks" answer from the server? a- Yes, as I said before, I get the "got 0 tasks" b- 100% each project. I actually have 3x+1, but when the GPUs beguin to crunch, they stop (only two cores). c- I left as default. Some time ago I set to 10 days the field in the field "maintain enough..." and the computer tried very many times to get WUs, but it always get this message from server (in two lines): "No work sent (reached per-cpu limit of 1 tasks)" and only get 2 Wus, no one appart from the ones being crunched. |
EdboardSend message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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No, I tried it manually many times and the answer is "get 0 tasks". I only receive task when the scheduler wants...I've just had the same happen on my quad core. I'll try. I have 3x+1 project since the GPUs are so many time idle. If they are working, no other project can be executed, so it would be innecessary to have any other project besides GPUGRID. |
EdboardSend message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I have just tried and YES, it has been to stop 3x`1 project and the client has tried to get WU inmediately, but it has get the "reached per-cpu limit...." (because I still have twuo units being processed). But at least it has tried to get WUs. So I'll leave stoped the other project and wait until I complete the running WUs... I'll report later. |
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