Mikey said:

If only Linux were that simple lots of people would upgrade, but right now in Ubuntu when you search the default repositories for Boinc and ONLY 7.0.27 comes up, nothing newer.

Not sure where you are looking. Right now when I check in the Ubuntu 14.04 software installer, BOINC 7.2.42 comes up. Then all I have to do is click the "Install" button. Sounds pretty simple to me.

Fine if you are using 14.04, not fine if you are using some earlier version which only updates from older repositories, and if you don't have an LTS version then it's DIY or die trying.

It's the command names and the command changes that I don't like, especially when jumping from flavour to flavour. How would a newbie really know that sudo stands for Super User do? If Linux actually told you 'verbosely' what the commands did when you entered them, then you would learn while you do/copy and paste.

https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/306766:linux-101-introduction-to-sudo

Until Linux facilitates click and install, it will not be user friendly!

It's for that exact reason that Android exists, however it was/is a commercial investment (not that an OEM Win system is much better; most systems come with endless crapware) - you need to register before you can download and install their apps for Android. That means that you give them your personal and device details and are subsequently tracked, relentlessly and endlessly - you see, you're the product and you even paid for a device to enable a super-company to track/use/sell your info!

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FAQ's

HOW TO:
- Opt out of Beta Tests
- Ask for Help

Back on topic -- Did a new version work? :)

Back on topic -- Did a new version work? :)

Now that I'm up with a fresh install of Boinc, how do I put a copy of app_config.xml into the /var/lib/boinc-client area when the privileges block me?

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Can I remind people that when asking for help its important to specify and detail the system in question, especially the operating system, Boinc version, driver version and hardware (GPU mostly).
The best place for this info is the first post. This has been covered in a fairly obvious FAQ.

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FAQ's

HOW TO:
- Opt out of Beta Tests
- Ask for Help

Can I remind people that when asking for help its important to specify and detail the system in question, especially the operating system, Boinc version, driver version and hardware (GPU mostly).
The best place for this info is the first post. This has been covered in a fairly obvious FAQ.

Might I remind you that I am looking for help. I am not a professional as you seem to think. Frankly, I do not think you have an answer for my issue so you take it out on the OP. I have a suggestion for you, but it might not be physically possible.

I will wait until Collatz is back up on line and do WUs for them. You can keep your WU. To those who actually were trying to help me, my thanks.

Gandalf,

Hold up just a sec: Here's what worked for me.

First, attach to the gpugrid project in the BOINC Manager. That creates the www.gpugrid.net folder in the /var/lib/boinc-client/projects folder.

Open a terminal session

cd /var/lib/boinc-client/projects/www.gpugrid.net
sudo gedit app_config.xml

Enter the xml code into the "gedit" editor then save the file. That should get the app_config.xml file set up in the correct folder.

That machine isn't up right now I can't test to verify. If you have any trouble with the commands let me know and I will bring the machine up and verify.

Don't give up yet, you are almost there.

Don't give up Gandalf.

Gandalf,

Hold up just a sec: Here's what worked for me.

First, attach to the gpugrid project in the BOINC Manager. That creates the www.gpugrid.net folder in the /var/lib/boinc-client/projects folder.

Open a terminal session

cd /var/lib/boinc-client/projects/www.gpugrid.net
sudo gedit app_config.xml

Enter the xml code into the "gedit" editor then save the file. That should get the app_config.xml file set up in the correct folder.

That machine isn't up right now I can't test to verify. If you have any trouble with the commands let me know and I will bring the machine up and verify.

Don't give up yet, you are almost there.

OK, you're a Captain again just for your stick-to-it attitude.
I followed your procedure.

Here is the log. I don't see any reference to the app_config file...

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Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.27 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, sched_op_debug
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Libraries: libcurl/7.27.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1c zlib/1.2.7 libidn/1.25 librtmp/2.3
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Processor: 12 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz [Family 6 Model 45 Stepping 7]
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Processor: 12.00 MB cache
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx lahf_lm ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | OS: Linux: 3.5.0-17-generic
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Memory: 11.71 GB physical, 11.97 GB virtual
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Disk: 222.94 GB total, 205.76 GB free
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Local time is UTC -7 hours
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 285 (driver version unknown, CUDA version 5.0, compute capability 1.3, 134215679MB, 134215521MB available, 1063 GFLOPS peak)
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 285 (driver version unknown, CUDA version 5.0, compute capability 1.3, 134214656MB, 134214601MB available, 1063 GFLOPS peak)
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 285 (driver version 304.88, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 2047MB, 134215521MB available)
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 285 (driver version 304.88, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 1024MB, 134214601MB available)
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Config: use all coprocessors
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Config: GUI RPC allowed from:
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Config: 192.168.1.100
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Config: 192.168.1.101
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Config: 192.168.1.102
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Config: 192.168.1.103
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | A new version of BOINC is available. <a href=http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php>Download it.</a>
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | GPUGRID | URL http://www.gpugrid.net/; Computer ID 172878; resource share 100
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | General prefs: from http://www.primegrid.com/ (last modified 21-Jan-2014 10:41:09)
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Host location: none
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | General prefs: using your defaults
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Reading preferences override file
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Preferences:
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | max memory usage when active: 5996.71MB
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | max memory usage when idle: 10794.07MB
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | max disk usage: 0.00GB
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Not using a proxy
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | GPUGRID | Restarting task 739x-SANTI_MAR419cap310-65-84-RND3225_0 using acemdshort version 800 (cuda55) in slot 0
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | GPUGRID | Restarting task 1_4_19-NATHAN_CMYB_run1-30-40-RND3566_0 using acemdshort version 800 (cuda55) in slot 1
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | GPUGRID | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | GPUGRID | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | GPUGRID | [sched_op] CPU work request: 622080.00 seconds; 12.00 devices
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | GPUGRID | [sched_op] NVIDIA work request: 17275.34 seconds; 0.00 devices
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:59 AM PDT | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:59 AM PDT | GPUGRID | [sched_op] Server version 613
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:59 AM PDT | GPUGRID | No tasks sent
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:59 AM PDT | GPUGRID | No tasks are available for Short runs (2-3 hours on fastest card)
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:59 AM PDT | GPUGRID | This computer has reached a limit on tasks in progress
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:59 AM PDT | GPUGRID | Project requested delay of 31 seconds
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:59 AM PDT | GPUGRID | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 31 sec
Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:59 AM PDT | GPUGRID | [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
Sat 19 Apr 2014 11:09:54 AM PDT | GPUGRID | work fetch suspended by user
Sat 19 Apr 2014 01:00:53 PM PDT | GPUGRID | work fetch resumed by user

See where it says you are using 7.0.27?

Sat 19 Apr 2014 10:01:57 AM PDT | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.27 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

That, again, is the problem.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
... says you need 7.0.40 or better. See that? Specifically, here:
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration#Application_configuration

Maybe you could visit this link to get a newer version?
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

Since the Package Manager and the apt-get command both install an older version, I guess I'll just have to wait until Boinc provides a newer version to Linux distribution. Manually installing Boinc doesn't install the same way. I've tried.

Thanks for the research.

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Hey Gandalf,

Appreciate you patience,

Yes, installing BOINC manually in Linux is very different. I had to learn how to do it that way for the test4theory project to get around some permissions problems with the repository install. Now I actually prefer to install it manually for several reasons. I get to choose the version that I run. I get to choose when to start it. And there are not all the permissions problems with the manual install.

To get the manual install to work properly, there are some prerequisite libraries that have to be installed. I have posted all the instructions for installing manually on Ubuntu over on the Test4theory web site, on the "Questions and Answers" board, "Unix/Linux" list, sticky thread at the top of the list titled "Step by Step instructions for getting test4theory to work in Ubuntu". There are two sets of instructions in that thread. One is for Ubuntu 12.10 and earlier, the other is for 13.04 and later.

In your case, since you have already installed BOINC from the repository all of the prerequisite libraries might already be there. You could just stop the BOINC from the repository, install BOINC 7.2.42 manually and see if it will start up. If not then the other libraries would need to be installed.

I don't have any experience with Linux Mint, but IIRC it is based on Ubuntu so the same library configuration might work for you.

I always install in my home directory so the app_config for gpugrid is stored in /home/myname/BOINC/projects/www.gpugrid.net (no permissions restrictions).

If you want to try the manual install and need some more help, post here and I'll keep watching the thread.

[minor edit to fix address on test4theory board]

I agree with captainjack on installing and running boinc manually.

I use linux mint (ver 16 on 2 machines and ver 13 LTS on one machine) so I can give you mint specific instructions (similar to Ubuntu instructions provided by captainjack).

Download linux-x64 boinc 7.2.42 from here: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

move the install script, boinc_7.2.42_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.sh, from your download directory to your home directory (usually up one level)

From your home directory run: sh ./boinc_7.2.42_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.sh

the script creates a Directory called BOINC in your home directory and installs all the boinc files to get boinc up and running.

Install libraries need to run boinc and boincmgr:

sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.8-0
sudo apt-get install libwxbase2.8-0

Try running boincmgr:

cd into BOINC directory and run:

./boincmgr

If it runs then you are set to go. If you get an error then continue below.

Since you are running linux mint 14 (KDE?) there may be more libraries missing.

To check, cd into the BOINC directory and run:

ldd boinc
ldd boincmgr

the ldd command checks for library dependencies for a particular application.

if you see a pointer for libraries "not found" then post the output here and we'll help find and install the missing libraries.