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Message 36398 - Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 19:29:09 UTC

What is wrong with this...

<app_config>
<app>
   <name>acemdshort</name>
   <max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
   <gpu_versions>
   <gpu_usage>1.00</gpu_usage>
   <cpu_usage>1.00</cpu_usage>
   </gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>


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Message 36403 - Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 22:08:44 UTC
Last modified: 18 Apr 2014, 22:10:17 UTC

The contents of the xml file are correct.

Is it in a file called "app_config.xml" within your "projects\www.gpugrid.net" folder? It should be.

Is it not setting the CPU usage to 1.00 for each of the tasks? It should be. And it'll require a restart of BOINC for it to properly take effect.

Are you trying to get 2 tasks to run at 1 time, and wondering why that's not working? Max_concurrent means "run at most these many tasks of this application type, at any given moment", but it's the gpu_usage setting that dictates "how many tasks of this application type can run on a given GPU", since it really means "consider this much GPU as used when this application type is running on a GPU". Setting it to 0.5, and restarting BOINC, will allow 2 acemdshort tasks on 1 GPU.

Does this help you at all? Next time, saying "what's wrong" is not enough to properly ask a question - details matter. Ask more appropriately.
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Message 36405 - Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 22:23:29 UTC

If you want to get the app_config.xml to take effect without having to restart BOINC,
Open up BOINC Manager on your PC
In the menu bar at top, click on "Advanced"
In the drop-down click on "Read Config Files"
In the event log, you should get a message in the even log that says
 GPUGRID | 4/18/2014 5:19:08 PM | Found app_config.xml

If you don't get the message in your event log, it didn't find the app_config.xml file in the ...\projects\www.gpugrid.net folder

The one odd quirk about this method is that the "Status" column may not show the correct usage of cpu's/gpu's, but it will behave as you intended in the app_config.

Hope that helps.
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Message 36407 - Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 23:11:40 UTC
Last modified: 18 Apr 2014, 23:13:02 UTC

The BOINC Manager reports Status as Running (0.492 CPUs + NVIDIA GPU) for each of my GPUs. It should report 1.0 CPUs + 1 NVIDIA GPU.

I have rebooted the Boinc Manager and used the...
sudo service boinc-client restart

Still the amount of approved CPU usage is not reflected in the BOINC Manager.

The one odd quirk about this method is that the "Status" column may not show the correct usage of cpu's/gpu's, but it will behave as you intended in the app_config.

Well, IMO it should.
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Message 36409 - Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 23:24:21 UTC

Follow up to prior post...
The Windows application of your project works for assigning CPU + GPU usage.
It is the Linux version that seems to ignore the app_config.xml file.
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Message 36410 - Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 23:25:56 UTC
Last modified: 18 Apr 2014, 23:26:15 UTC

If you're not getting the message:
GPUGRID | 4/18/2014 5:19:08 PM | Found app_config.xml

... within the startup Event Log entries, then it means your app_config.xml file is in the wrong place, and BOINC is not finding it.

Are you getting that message? I assume you're not. So, where exactly are you putting this .xml file?
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Message 36411 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 0:27:53 UTC

The app_config.xml is working just fine for me on BOINC 7.2.42 running on Ubuntu 14.04. I have 2 cpu's and 1 gpu assigned per task.

If you are running Ubuntu and installed using the Ubuntu software installer, the projects folder should be in /var/lib/boinc-client/projects/www.gpugrid.net.

It might be in the same location on other Linux distros, I am unable to verify.

Personally, I do not use the Ubuntu software installer so my projects folder is stored in a different location. If you do use the distro software installer, there might be some permissions issues that you have to work around to get the app_config.xml file moved into the ~/projects/www.gpugrid.net folder.

If you are still having trouble, let us know, I would be glad to do some testing with the BOINC version that is installed by the distro installer.
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Message 36412 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 1:20:02 UTC - in response to Message 36411.  
Last modified: 19 Apr 2014, 1:25:04 UTC

Hi Captain,

I'm using LinuxMint 14 DE: Cinnamon

One of my PC is on LM with NV GPUs. I also have a PC on Win7 and NV GPUs. You have confirmed the content of the file. Both files are identical. The Win7 PC indicates 1C + 1NV. The LM PC indicates 0.492C + 1NV.

BoincTasks indicates CPU % for the Win7 PC as about 15%. The LM PC indicates about 97%. This is why I am trying to set the permissions for the WUs to use 1 CPU vice 0.492.

The file location in the LM PC is /var/lib/boinc-client/projects/www.gpugrid.net


Edit: The Event log on the Win7 reports finding the file. The Event log on the LM PC does not show the app_config.xml file as having been found. Where should I put it if not where it is?
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Message 36413 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 1:23:25 UTC - in response to Message 36412.  

Can you please post the startup entries of your Event Log, like the first 30 or so lines? Specifically, it should actually be TELLING you where your data directory is.
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Message 36414 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 1:25:46 UTC - in response to Message 36413.  

Can you please post the startup entries of your Event Log, like the first 30 or so lines? Specifically, it should actually be TELLING you where your data directory is.

OK. Working on it.
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Message 36415 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 1:38:19 UTC - in response to Message 36413.  
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Can you please post the startup entries of your Event Log, like the first 30 or so lines? Specifically, it should actually be TELLING you where your data directory is.


Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.27 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, sched_op_debug
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Libraries: libcurl/7.27.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1c zlib/1.2.7 libidn/1.25 librtmp/2.3
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Processor: 12 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz [Family 6 Model 45 Stepping 7]
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Processor: 12.00 MB cache
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx lahf_lm ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | OS: Linux: 3.5.0-17-generic
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Memory: 11.71 GB physical, 11.97 GB virtual
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Disk: 222.94 GB total, 205.96 GB free
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Local time is UTC -7 hours
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | No usable GPUs found
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | GPUGRID | Application uses missing CUDA GPU
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | GPUGRID | Missing coprocessor for task 302x-SANTI_MAR419cap310-63-84-RND4489_2
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | GPUGRID | Missing coprocessor for task 452x-SANTI_MAR419cap310-62-84-RND2124_0
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Config: use all coprocessors
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Config: GUI RPC allowed from:
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Config: 192.168.1.100
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Config: 192.168.1.101
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Config: 192.168.1.102
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Config: 192.168.1.103
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | A new version of BOINC is available. <a href=http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php>Download it.</a>
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | GPUGRID | URL http://www.gpugrid.net/; Computer ID 172696; resource share 100
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | WUProp@Home | URL http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/; Computer ID 68339; resource share 100
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | NFS@Home | URL http://escatter11.fullerton.edu/nfs/; Computer ID 591333; resource share 100
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | PrimeGrid | URL http://www.primegrid.com/; Computer ID 430857; resource share 100
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | Collatz Conjecture | URL http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/; Computer ID 143372; resource share 100
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | PrimeGrid | General prefs: from PrimeGrid (last modified 21-Jan-2014 10:41:09)
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | PrimeGrid | Host location: none
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | PrimeGrid | General prefs: using your defaults
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Reading preferences override file
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Preferences:
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | max memory usage when active: 11993.41MB
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | max memory usage when idle: 11993.41MB
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | max disk usage: 0.00GB
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:30:04 PM PDT | | Not using a proxy
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | GPUGRID | URL http://www.gpugrid.net/; Computer ID 172696; resource share 100
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | WUProp@Home | URL http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/; Computer ID 68339; resource share 100
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | URL http://escatter11.fullerton.edu/nfs/; Computer ID 591333; resource share 100
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | PrimeGrid | URL http://www.primegrid.com/; Computer ID 430857; resource share 100
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | Collatz Conjecture | URL http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/; Computer ID 143372; resource share 100
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | PrimeGrid | General prefs: from PrimeGrid (last modified 21-Jan-2014 10:41:09)
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | PrimeGrid | Host location: none
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | PrimeGrid | General prefs: using your defaults
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | | Reading preferences override file
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | | Preferences:
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | | max memory usage when active: 11993.41MB
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | | max memory usage when idle: 11993.41MB
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | | max disk usage: 0.00GB
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | | Not using a proxy
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | WUProp@Home | Restarting task wu_v4_1397066238_186252_0 using data_collect_v4 version 413 (nci) in slot 0
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task GW_6_298_45232_0 using lasieved version 110 in slot 10
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | GPUGRID | Restarting task 302x-SANTI_MAR419cap310-63-84-RND4489_2 using acemdshort version 800 (cuda55) in slot 14
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task GW_6_298_45184_0 using lasieved version 110 in slot 11
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task GW_6_298_45280_0 using lasieved version 110 in slot 7
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task C_2_769_115040_0 using lasieved version 110 in slot 12
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task L1872_134336_0 using lasievee version 110 in slot 3
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task L1872_134332_0 using lasievee version 110 in slot 5
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task C_2_769_115200_0 using lasieved version 110 in slot 6
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task L1872_134320_0 using lasievee version 110 in slot 4
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task L1872_134312_0 using lasievee version 110 in slot 9
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task C_2_769_115072_0 using lasieved version 110 in slot 1
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task L1872_134288_0 using lasievee version 110 in slot 2
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | GPUGRID | Restarting task 452x-SANTI_MAR419cap310-62-84-RND2124_0 using acemdshort version 800 (cuda55) in slot 13
Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:33:43 PM PDT | NFS@Home | Restarting task C_2_769_115248_0 using lasieved version 110 in slot 8
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Message 36416 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 2:03:55 UTC

Gandalf,

Indeed this is puzzling. Your event log confirms that your data directory is /var/lib/boinc-client.

I just started up a Ubuntu VM with BOINC installed by the Ubuntu software installer. Data directory is in the same location.

When I tried to get into the ~/boinc-client/projects folder using the Ubuntu file manager, it said that I didn't have permission to see the contents.

The only way I found to get the app_config.xml into the /boinc-client/projects/www.gpugrid.net folder was to start up a terminal session and use the sudo command to get permissions to save data into the folder. I did a "cd /var/lib/boinc-client/projects/www.gpugrid.net" to switch to the folder. Then I did a "sudo gedit app_config.xml" to open the editor.

After I placed the app_config.xml into the folder, I went into BOINC and told it to "Read config files". The event log confirmed that the app_config was found.

Did you have the same permissions problems when trying to store the app_config in the /projects/www.gpugrid.net folder?
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Message 36417 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 2:19:12 UTC - in response to Message 36416.  

YES!!!
I just used chmod from a terminal to gain access.
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Message 36420 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 2:38:53 UTC - in response to Message 36417.  

Thought a picture would not hurt.

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Message 36421 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 3:05:00 UTC

I'm about out of guesses.

Assuming that the app_config.xml file name is spelled correctly and is in the correct folder, the BOINC Manager should find it. My only other guess would be the effect of the chmod that you issued to get into the projects folder. I wonder if that could have done something to the folder permissions to confuse BOINC and cause it to not read the app_config file.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
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Message 36422 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 3:18:08 UTC - in response to Message 36421.  

Thanks for trying, Lieutenant. :)


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Message 36423 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 3:20:56 UTC - in response to Message 36422.  

With the file placed on the correct folder, you might try uninstalling and reinstalling BOINC. Perhaps reinstalling it will set the file permissions to their correct values.
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Message 36424 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 3:27:59 UTC
Last modified: 19 Apr 2014, 3:33:24 UTC

I think I found the problem. It's your BOINC version.
Look here: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
Your version is too old.
Perhaps you should heed the warning message at the beginning of the Event Log, and upgrade, and then try again.
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Message 36425 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 3:30:50 UTC - in response to Message 36424.  

I think I found the problem. It's your BOINC version.
Look here: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configurationYour version is to old.
Perhaps you should heed the warning message at the beginning of the Event Log, and upgrade, and then try again.

I installed via the apt-get function. I'll reinstall via apt-get.
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Message 36434 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 13:35:51 UTC - in response to Message 36424.  

I think I found the problem. It's your BOINC version.
Look here: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
Your version is too old.
Perhaps you should heed the warning message at the beginning of the Event Log, and upgrade, and then try again.


Not being a Linux guy this isn't as easy as it sounds. In Windows you click the link provided, it takes you to the webpage link, you click it, it runs and boom it is installed. If only Linux were that simple lots of people would upgrade, but right now in Ubuntu when you search the default repositories for Boinc and ONLY 7.0.27 comes up, nothing newer. That means you have to manually download and install it, not nearly as easy for folks that don't use Linux on a regular basis and forget the syntax and commands.

In the past I 'upgraded' to a newer Boinc version in Linux, it has been awhile, and it didn't even install it in the SAME directory, so every workunit I had was lost. Perhaps Dr A can get his guru's to make it easy for us Linux dummies to just 'point and click' like in Windows.
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