Hi,

Logged in this morning to find I was no longer a member of UK BOINC Team and the team have had their credits reset.
Any reason for this?

Darren

Hi,

Logged in this morning to find I was no longer a member of UK BOINC Team and the team have had their credits reset.
Any reason for this?

Darren

I have looked at the logs. People have quit the previous team, removed it and created another. The new team being new has zero credits.
new team id = 672

gdf

I have looked at the logs. People have quit the previous team, removed it and created another. The new team being new has zero credits.
new team id = 672

gdf

Sorry but I for one never quit the team.

I didn't quit either. I thought it was impossible to remove a team UNLESS the founder chose to do so?

The team founder as administrator of a team can remove members from a team. Contact your founder as for why you were removed.

Hi,

Logged in this morning to find I was no longer a member of UK BOINC Team and the team have had their credits reset.
Any reason for this?

Darren

I have looked at the logs. People have quit the previous team, removed it and created another. The new team being new has zero credits.
new team id = 672

gdf

I also belong to UK BOINC Team (team id 62), and I NEVER!!! quit the team.
The team just appears to have vanished on it's own accord!!!

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Down with the Kredit Kops!!!

You don't have to quit, the team founder has the option

# Remove members
Remove inactive or unwanted members from this team

This is the same as you quiting or leaving the team.

You don't have to quit, the team founder has the option

# Remove members
Remove inactive or unwanted members from this team

This is the same as you quiting or leaving the team.

The thing is both founders are called UBT - Simon, yet they have different user ID's, the UBT - Simon that we know has a list of active projects,has a website listed in all his account info, and shows his computers, the UBT - Simon on the "new team" has only ps3grid, no website and hides his compters(s).

UBT - Simon (user 179) Founder of original team.
UBT - Simon (user 5969) Founder of the "new team".

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Down with the Kredit Kops!!!

You don't have to quit, the team founder has the option

# Remove members
Remove inactive or unwanted members from this team

This is the same as you quiting or leaving the team.

The thing is both founders are called UBT - Simon, yet they have different user ID's, the UBT - Simon that we know has a list of active projects,has a website listed in all his account info, and shows his computers, the UBT - Simon on the "new team" has only ps3grid, no website and hides his compters(s).

UBT - Simon (user 179) Founder of original team.
UBT - Simon (user 5969) Founder of the "new team".

Are you sure that it is not the team founder that created another account and tried to move the team to the new account erasing it the team by mistake?

Have you contacted Simon? What does he says?

gdf

Hmmm... Maybe some sort of team hijacking like described here on the BOINC forums?

Have you tried to get in contact with the real UBT Simon?

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Are you sure that it is not the team founder that created another account and tried to move the team to the new account erasing it the team by mistake?

Have you contacted Simon? What does he says?

gdf

Our forum admin has emailed "our" Simon

The "new" Simon originally joined our our team on Friday as UBT - Timbo (our normal team founder), something I think that "our" Simon wouldn't do!!

The team founder as administrator of a team can remove members from a team. Contact your founder as for why you were removed.

This is what APPEARS to have happened:

The original team founder (on your project) DID NOT remove members...someone else seems to have made a founder change request, by fraudulently using my BOINC username (UBT - Timbo).

The foundership was then transferred to this third party (as it "appeared" legitimate) and this third party seems to have deleted members from the team.

It would appear that no-one validated the CPID of the person requesting the change to see if it matched *MY* CPID... (which one can easily check via BOINCstats or elsewhere...).

So, the UK BOINC Team has lost credits because someone fraudulently claimed to be me, when they were not....

I hope someone from PS3grid can resolve this and re-instate our team as it was.... before it was hijacked....

One assumes you *know* the email addy and CPID of whoever made the founder change request...so you can find out what has happened....

I hope you will let me know soonest, by email please, what you plan to do about this.

regards

Tim
Founder, UK BOINC Team

So, the UK BOINC Team has lost credits because someone fraudulently claimed to be me, when they were not....

According to the Project overview for "UK BOINC Team", the yesterday's drop (i.e. former UBT credit) was around 1.5-1.7 mil. C$T. Can be also seen on graphs on their detailed stats page.

One assumes you *know* the email addy and CPID of whoever made the founder change request...so you can find out what has happened....

Not necessarily, I personally do not believe, that Berkeley devs already got convinced enough to log such details somewhere... (neither publicly nor in system logs).

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Did something (I mean, in the PS3 database) happen to the team with ID=62 in the last days? I was trying to display the team details and have seen a bit of garbage - with note "Database Error" at the top of the zeroed page. Trying to check the Team member Movements for team id=62 in PS3GRID on BOINC Synergy stats page resulted in some error ("Warning: mysql_fetch_array(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/setisy/public_html/stats/team-movements.php on line 235 / line 274"). Trying to check the team id=62 members incorrectly listed all PS3Grid teams, suggesting the project is missing such team. BOINCstats site direstly responded "Team ID doesn't exist in PS3GRID or doesn't have any credit."

The team definitely WAS there, with non-zero credit, at least on 11.1.2008, as can be seen on one archived page: UB Boinc Team, 10 proud members, nice 3,763 C$T :-) And no plain evil user should have powers to clear its credit. Thus IMO something other happened here too. Or did the admins already played games with the DB?

Peter

The plot thickens:

The new, and as it appears fraudulent, "founder" of UBT has now changed his name to sigma-7. Furthermore he has left UBT for The Scottish Boinc Team. Now this might be quite innocent (several of the evicted UBT members are sheltering with us while this storm blows over) but given the further name change, the hidden computers and the misfortunes of UBT, I fear otherwise.

UBT have clearly had their identity stolen & been done over. They should have their credit restored. Their new founder (our new member!!) needs to be tracked down and asked a few searching questions.

The plot thickens:

The new, and as it appears fraudulent, "founder" of UBT has now changed his name to sigma-7. Furthermore he has left UBT for The Scottish Boinc Team. Now this might be quite innocent (several of the evicted UBT members are sheltering with us while this storm blows over) but given the further name change, the hidden computers and the misfortunes of UBT, I fear otherwise.

UBT have clearly had their identity stolen & been done over. They should have their credit restored. Their new founder (our new member!!) needs to be tracked down and asked a few searching questions.

That Sigma-7 is the real Sigma-7, and is now listed as founder of new UK Boinc Team on PS3GRID, confusing this eh?
(the account info for Sigma-7 match his Boincstats info)
However the fake UBT-Timbo, that became the fake UBT-Simon is now known as xblade

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Down with the Kredit Kops!!!

The new, and as it appears fraudulent, "founder" of UBT has now changed his name to sigma-7. Furthermore he has left UBT for The Scottish Boinc Team. Now this might be quite innocent (several of the evicted UBT members are sheltering with us while this storm blows over) but given the further name change, the hidden computers and the misfortunes of UBT, I fear otherwise.

Just to confirm, sigma-7 is a genuine member of UBT.
He was the last genuine member of the "new" team and I think had team foundership thrust upon him when (UBT-Timbo)->(UBT-Simon)->(xblade) left the team

The new, and as it appears fraudulent, "founder" of UBT has now changed his name to sigma-7. [...] given the further name change, the hidden computers...

Sigma-7's computers are visible on PrimeGrid, Spinhenge@home and ABC@home - two C2Quads and one C2Duo Merom. If it is important anyhow.

Peter

So Sigma-7 is real and that's good for UK Boinc Team. Giannii, please do the right thing and give UK Boinc Team them their credits back!

And User ID 5969 (now known as xblade) should be banned, regardless of who he calls himself, ideally across all projects too.

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I apologise unreservedly to sigma-7. His bona fides seem to have been well established: It seems that a big boy did it and ran away compounding his malice by leaving him as founder of the new but destroyed UBT team.

If indeed that big boy is xblade he should be banned.
UBT require to have their crdits restored.

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The Scottish Boinc Team

Just to clarify:

If the fraud is confirmed, I will restored the credits of the UK BOINC team and return the ownership to the correct founder.
I have to ask to see how to do it, so it will take few days.


GDF.