I have received a bunch of 290xp...Noelia_KLEBEs. They will be lucky to finish within 24 hours (660 and 660ti) or 2 days (560ti with the additional penalty for only 1GB memory). Are these cards now too slow to process long WUs, or is there a problem with them that they run so much longer than earlier WUS?

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I have received a bunch of 290xp...Noelia_KLEBEs. They will be lucky to finish within 24 hours (660 and 660ti) or 2 days (560ti with the additional penalty for only 1GB memory).

I've received a couple of them too. They need about 1.2GB GPU memory.

Are these cards now too slow to process long WUs,

These cards are not too slow to prcess them, as the deadline is 5 days. However these cards too slow to achieve the 24h or 48h return bonus.

... or is there a problem with them that they run so much longer than earlier WUS?

I had a problem with one of them, the GPU usage was 9-11% only, with some spikes of 95%. I've resarted the host, and the symptom disappeared for as long as I've watched.

On my GTX660Ti and GTX660 the last NOELIA_KLEBE WU's finished just under 11h and 14h:

148px120-NOELIA_KLEBE-0-3-RND5215_1 4636380 139265 5 Aug 2013 | 9:18:05 UTC 6 Aug 2013 | 1:02:54 UTC Completed and validated 48,352.49 21,205.20 142,800.00 Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)

109nx159-NOELIA_KLEBE-0-3-RND4695_1 4636187 139265 4 Aug 2013 | 22:40:17 UTC 5 Aug 2013 | 11:34:24 UTC Completed and validated 39,357.44 16,969.73 142,800.00 Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)

Still saw a driver reset when I suspended a WU though.

As Zoltan suggests (1.2GB), you might want to try and avoid them on your 1024MB GTX560Ti (short queue).

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Previous Noelia KLEBEs have been ok - just this batch starting with 290px. Anyway the one on the 560ti just crsashed after 20 hours after I had to reboot the PC so I'll give it a rest from long WUs for the moment and see if it handles the new Folding WUs any better.

I just finished a NOELIA 290px86 on my GTX 660. It took 19h40m, exactly six hours longer than the previous NOELIA 148px111 and for the same credit; 142,800. :(

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I have received a bunch of 290xp...Noelia_KLEBEs. They will be lucky to finish within 24 hours (660 and 660ti) or 2 days (560ti with the additional penalty for only 1GB memory).

I've received a couple of them too. They need about 1.2GB GPU memory.

Just found 2 of them on my 650 Ti 1GB cards, 19-20 hours run and less than 40% completed. Noelia strikes again :-(

I'm not keen on 20h tasks, unless the failure rate is very low. Of late I've mostly been running short WU's anyway.

With previous Noelia WU's we did see a significant slowdown when all the CPU cores/threads were in use, so I would recommend 99% CPU usage for these long WU's. Might bring a few home just in time for the bonus and reduce the heartaches. Anyone who suspends and resume crunching a lot would be best sticking to the short queue.

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Current task 284px89-NOELIA_KLEBE-0-3-RND9863 has time 6570s at 10% progress!
Previous NOELIA_KLEBE tasks had ~29Ks, 36Ks and 42Ks total.

I just lost two more long run Noelia tasks....only a few seconds lost, but I have gone back to short run tasks again.

063px68-NOELIA_KLEBE-1-3-RND0830

application
Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card)
created
4 Aug 2013 | 19:24:48 UTC
minimum quorum
1
initial replication
1
max # of error/total/success tasks
7, 10, 6
Task
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Computer
Sent
Time reported
or deadline 
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Status
Run time
(sec)
CPU time
(sec)
Credit
Application
7109875
154680
8 Aug 2013 | 14:31:49 UTC
8 Aug 2013 | 14:36:47 UTC
Error while computing
18.55
4.82
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7120477
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063px59-NOELIA_KLEBE-1-3-RND0623

application
Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card)
created
4 Aug 2013 | 17:03:35 UTC
minimum quorum
1
initial replication
1
max # of error/total/success tasks
7, 10, 6
Task
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Time reported
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Status
Run time
(sec)
CPU time
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Credit
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7109622
154680
8 Aug 2013 | 14:31:49 UTC
8 Aug 2013 | 14:35:14 UTC
Error while computing
15.39
3.85
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Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
7120474
152522
8 Aug 2013 | 18:04:16 UTC
13 Aug 2013 | 18:04:16 UTC
In progress
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I ran into a few of these slow units myself. Though they were not the 20+ hours finish time units, but they did take 14 to 16 hours to finish.

The first two were on a windows 7 computer, with a GTX 690 card, 2 gigs of memory, one CPU to GPU ratio, and the cards were not under clocked.

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=7107922

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=7107910

The other computer has windows xp, with the same type of card and settings.

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=7119318


Normally, these units take about 9 to 12 hours to finish on my computers. It seems to be more than just a memory issue.

I too have significant problems with 063px85-NOELIA_KLEBE-1-3-RND2279. It looks like it hangs up the driver: when this task is started, it never makes it onto the GPU and the task hangs at 0% (though it appears to be running in BOINC). The GPU is not capable of running any openCL tasks after that, not even very simple test programs. Only a reboot will get the system out of this state. I have now suspended GPUGRID and the GPU is running an Einstein task just fine. So the OS and the hardware are OK. This is a linux 64-bit system with a 310.44 driver. My card is a GTX 660 Ti with 2 GiB memory, so overrunning the memory should not be an issue. I will kill the NOELIA task and see if I can get something that runs. I have to say that I am getting pretty fed up with these NOELIA tasks, they cause way too many problems. The other ones all run just fine, but it appears that the NOELIA tasks are the only ones that break...

Now that I have aborted some of these tasks I can see that they initially load on the GPU for some 10 seconds or so and then disappear from the GPU. The run time is then also reset. Memory use never exceeds 1 GiB during that initial time according to nvidia-smi.

All I can get now are these KLEBE runs, so I will disable the project until this situation has been fixed.

I downloaded a few more of these units, and while the 100 series px... seem to be running normally (9 to 12 hours finishing time for my computers). It is the 200 series px... that are the slow ones (14+ hours finishing time for my computers).

At least that is what is happening on my computers, currently.

Hi, Bedrich:

I am happy to see your successes. I am having too many failures to continue with my FX-8350/GTX 650 Ti GPUs so I will divert these to Alzheimer's where I experience no failures at all. I will look in on GPUGrid occasionally to see if I want to return.

John

Chip, 87°C is too high. I suggest you cool your system/GPU better.

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Seems I didn't get a Noelia 290px.. WU jet but the one's I got finish okay on my troublesome system. Even with the very recommended 310.90 driver Santi SR fail, but Noelia's steam on. They take a little longer that a few weeks back.
I can even suspend them and start again without problem. Noelia's run with all drivers I tries from 310 to 320 and the latest beta.

I did find out that suspending a GPUGRID WU (Santi and Nate) and than closing BOINC, start BOINC and resume the task again, works without error.

Staff: make a Noelia queue and I hook up my rigs there.

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The last three days, I had 7 Noelia units crash. That's a lot for me, and so far, they crashed for everybody else, also. Looks like you have a problem here.



109nx25-NOELIA_KLEBE-1-3-RND9879_3 4640742 10 Aug 2013 | 0:35:47 UTC 10 Aug 2013 | 0:38:48 UTC Error while computing 24.03 3.85 --- Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
148px179-NOELIA_KLEBE-1-3-RND0365_1 4641851 9 Aug 2013 | 22:47:33 UTC 10 Aug 2013 | 0:35:47 UTC Error while computing 26.05 3.82 --- Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
109nx159-NOELIA_KLEBE-1-3-RND4695_3 4640952 9 Aug 2013 | 22:42:42 UTC 9 Aug 2013 | 23:55:05 UTC Error while computing 34.05 6.99 --- Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
063px200-NOELIA_KLEBE-1-3-RND2361_3 4639982 9 Aug 2013 | 18:55:47 UTC 9 Aug 2013 | 20:05:08 UTC Error while computing 26.04 3.92 --- Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
255px11-NOELIA_KLEBE-1-3-RND0350_1 4641822 9 Aug 2013 | 17:12:36 UTC 9 Aug 2013 | 18:08:37 UTC Error while computing 30.04 4.27 --- Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
063px194-NOELIA_KLEBE-1-3-RND5437_3 4639954 9 Aug 2013 | 7:12:48 UTC 9 Aug 2013 | 7:55:27 UTC Error while computing 27.03 3.92 --- Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
063px126-NOELIA_KLEBE-1-3-RND3582_0 4639815 8 Aug 2013 | 17:58:47 UTC 8 Aug 2013 | 19:29:46 UTC Error while computing 16.05 4.15 --- Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)

The same strings in stderr.txt:

(0x3) - exit code 3 (0x3)

SWAN : FATAL : Cuda driver error 999 in file 'swanlibnv2.cpp' in line 1574.
Assertion failed: a, file swanlibnv2.cpp, line 59

Windows event:

Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Error
Date:          09.08.2013 17:39:07
Event ID:      1000
Task Category: (100)
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      ******
Description:
Faulting application name: acemd.2865P.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x511b9dc5
Faulting module name: acemd.2865P.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x511b9dc5
Exception code: 0x40000015
Fault offset: 0x00015ad1
Faulting process id: 0x11c8
Faulting application start time: 0x01ce950e28118082
Faulting application path: C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\www.gpugrid.net\acemd.2865P.exe
Faulting module path: C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\www.gpugrid.net\acemd.2865P.exe
Report Id: 71992cef-0101-11e3-8cc4-8c89a52b18d0

Wow the longest unit i ever had o.O

http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=4639483

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Oh, a "normal" Computingerror on KLEBEs can hang a GPU too. Thats new for me as experience with my equipment thats nearly resistent about the most problems here. Computer reset -> works as usually ^^

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