Would you mind checking with 32 Bit BOINC under XP 64? I doubt it will help, but better be safe than sorry. Or did anyone already test this?

MrS

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This could actually work.
They said that it is an issue with 32, 64 bit.
gdf

I have had no issues with out of memory on 64bit server 2008 and windows 7 running the 64bit BOINC. I have used the latest drivers (even beta) soon after they come out, same with the BOINC client. I am currently running driver 180.42 beta with BOINC 6.3.21. Tomorrow I will upgrade both the driver and the client to the latest. I have left server 2008 running for a month straight with no reboot, and still no issues. I also have 4GB ram, DXdiag says that approx 2,298MB is allocated for video use. I have a 8800 GTS 512mb card.

I have riva tuner installed, but I dont know how to see how much memory is being used for an application.

TankMaster, the problem seems to affect WinXP 64 but not Vista/7/Server2008. I think they use different drivers. Regarding RivaTuner and mem usage:

"Install RivaTuner, click on this strange "button with a triangle" next to the line which tells you the physical details of your card, then search for the hardware monitoring in the list of symbols, which pops up and if it asks, tell it to "handle the plugins automatically". This should enable the vid mem module.. at least it did for me :)"

Just ask if you need any further help.

MrS

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All my GPU Capable Box's are 64-Bit Windows XP-Pro, I made it a Ritual several weeks ago to Stop BOINC and Re-Boot the Box every 1.5 Days. If I wait 2 Days I get stung by the out of memeory error once in awhile so 1.5 days is best for me anyway.

PoorBoy, would you mind checking [if there error is still present] with 32 Bit BOINC under XP 64?

MrS

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Okay, I'm changing 1 Box over now to 32-Bit but I just Re-Booted a few hours ago so it may take at least 2-3 days before I know or not ...

PS: I don't know what the problem is but the 32-Bit GPU Client refuses to install, I tried where I wanted it installed to & tried where it wanted to install to numerous times. It looks like it's installing but theres nothing there where it should be, I'm lucky I didn't lose the whole Directory as many times as I tried.

I tried on another box & it was a no go too ...

Mhh, thanks for trying, anyway!

MrS

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I'm asking about it over in the Boinc Dev Forum now to see what the deal is on that ...

Hi PoorBoy,

I had an old 32 bit Boinc (5.10.X) on my box. So I tried an upgrade to 6.3.21 (32 bit), and it werked.

I just finished loading a GPU task and some other Boinc wu's. I performed a re-boot, and will let it run on it's own for a few days....

WinXP pro x64
6.3.21 (32 bit)
8800GT
177.84 driver

I'm using the existing x64 video driver...as the 32 bit driver will not install due to the OS...

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Hi Bender, I did finally just get a 32-Bit Client to install on 1 Box but it was v5.10.45 which isn't a Cuda Version, strange thing is though it's running 3 GPU Wu's as I type this and none of the regular Wu's, it's only a 8800GT OC on that Box & not a 8800GTx3 OC ... hahaha ... Weird ???

I'm going to shut BOINC down now on that box & see if it will install the Proper 32-Bit Cuda Client v6.3.21 ... Laterz

PS: Got the 32-Bit Version of 6.3.21 to install in the Directory's I wanted the files in so it's running okay now so now we have 2 people trying the 32-Bit Client out on a 64-Bit OS & checking to see if they get the Memory Error or not. 3 GPU Wu's got Toasted in the Process though but I got new Wu's. They probably Erred out because they ran under v5.10.45 for a few Minutes, I didn't think to Suspend them thinking they wouldn't even start up with that version of client.

I Rebooted & will let the Box run for 4-5 Days like that, if it doesn't get a Memory Error by then it Probably won't. I can let it run longer if need be as long as I'm running the regular Wu's I'm running now because they run just as fast with a 32-Bit Client as they do with a 64-Bit Client it looks like ...

LOL.. 5.x doesn't know anything about CUDA, but it seems it's still able to run the code, because you have the CUDA drivers. Interesting :D

@PoorBoy-Edit: to my knowledge ABC is the only project which really benefits from 64 Bit mode. Quite logical, since basically all other projects use floating point instead of integer, where most calculations are double precision anyway (i.e. 64 Bit external, 80 Bit internal).

MrS

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LOL.. 5.x doesn't know anything about CUDA, but it seems it's still able to run the code, because you have the CUDA drivers. Interesting :D

Yes, I figured it was so confused with the v5.10.45 Client it didn't know what to do so it ran the GPU Wu's instead of the regular Wu's it should have run, and thats why they probably erred out when I installed the v6.3.21 Client I figure ...

@PoorBoy-Edit: to my knowledge ABC is the only project which really benefits from 64 Bit mode. Quite logical, since basically all other projects use floating point instead of integer, where most calculations are double precision anyway (i.e. 64 Bit external, 80 Bit internal).MrS

The Sieve Wu's at Prime Grid use a 64-Bit OS to their Benefit, Cosmology, MilkyWay, there may be others too but not sure. You also get extra Credit using a 64-Bit OS @ those Projects ... :)

On second thought I don't know if those Projects actually benefit from using a 64-Bit OS but the Wu's sure do run faster thus gaining you more Credit per time spent Processing.

Example > When all my Boxes were 32-Bit I was only able to get about 45,000 to 50,000 Credits Per Day, after I changed them all to 64-Bit I was able to get 85,000 to 95,000 Credits Per Day. So it's worth the switch & you can always still run a 32-Bit Client if need be at the Projects that require you to run that to get any Wu's from them ...

TankMaster, the problem seems to affect WinXP 64 but not Vista/7/Server2008. I think they use different drivers. Regarding RivaTuner and mem usage:

"Install RivaTuner, click on this strange "button with a triangle" next to the line which tells you the physical details of your card, then search for the hardware monitoring in the list of symbols, which pops up and if it asks, tell it to "handle the plugins automatically". This should enable the vid mem module.. at least it did for me :)"

Just ask if you need any further help.

MrS

All I see is core/shader/mem speeds, core/abient tems, fan RPM/dudty cycle, and supply voltage. No mem usage.

All I see is core/shader/mem speeds, core/abient tems, fan RPM/dudty cycle, and supply voltage. No mem usage.

Then you have to customize that yourself like I had to do, too.
In the hardware monitoring, click on the "setup"-button in the lower right corner.
Here, go to "plugins" in the lower left corner.
Then search for "vidmem.dll" and give it a hook.
When you click OK now, three more monitorings should appear.

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All I see is core/shader/mem speeds, core/abient tems, fan RPM/dudty cycle, and supply voltage. No mem usage.

Then you have to customize that yourself like I had to do, too.
In the hardware monitoring, click on the "setup"-button in the lower right corner.
Here, go to "plugins" in the lower left corner.
Then search for "vidmem.dll" and give it a hook.
When you click OK now, three more monitorings should appear.

I don't know what Version of RivaTuner your using DoctorNow but the Version I'm Using (2.0 Final) doesn't have no "setup-button" in the lower right corner. In fact it doesn't have a "setup-button" under any of the Tabs.

All I see is core/shader/mem speeds, core/abient tems, fan RPM/dudty cycle, and supply voltage. No mem usage.

Then you have to customize that yourself like I had to do, too.
In the hardware monitoring, click on the "setup"-button in the lower right corner.
Here, go to "plugins" in the lower left corner.
Then search for "vidmem.dll" and give it a hook.
When you click OK now, three more monitorings should appear.

thx! foiund out. However...

- Videomemory usage monitoring is not available under Vista due to Vista videomemory virtualization.

so thats why it wasnt avalible.

In the hardware monitoring panel there is a setup button. I didn't do any ddl stuff there, just selecting "vid mem usage".. on XP.

And thanks for the update on 64 Bit crunching.. seem like I lost track of these developments ;)

MrS

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Just had the "Cuda error in file 'deviceQuery.cu' in line 59 : out of memory" bug bite 1 of my Box's & it's only been about 36 hours since I Re-Booted them all. So I guess every day & 1/2 isn't enough. I'm going to start trying every 24 hours if possible & see If I still get the Error ...

Luckily I caught it in time before it could suck up it's daily Quota of Wu's & then I wouldn't be able to get anymore on that box for 24 Hr's or until the next Server Day, I Rebooted it & got 4 more Wu's though ... :)

Actually I don't think theres any set time for this Error to happen, I know I've had it happen in less than 24 Hours after Rebooting but generally it takes about 2 day's to occur.

In the hardware monitoring panel there is a setup button. I didn't do any ddl stuff there, just selecting "vid mem usage".. on XP.

I don't see a Hardware Monitoring Panel either, your not talking about the Power User Panel are you ??? I see things related to Memory usage in there but when activating them I don't see any new show up to where I can actually see the usage.

The box which errored out again, was that the one with 32 Bit BOINC or still 64?

Regarding RivaTuner: sorry, I don't know what you mean. I made a screen shot and circled the relevant buttons in, that should help. BTW, I think the interface of RivaTuner is really awful, the functionality is hidden in a strange way..

MrS

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