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Message 31052 - Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 8:18:36 UTC

Any update on this front?

I'm wanting to get the GTX780 but if problem persists might go 2xGTX770.

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Message 31062 - Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 15:02:01 UTC
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Unfortunately our developer for the TITANs (and their kind) comes back in July so we will have to wait a bit more. But it is quite high on our priorities to fix the problem with the new GPU's considering that eventually everyone will switch to the new generation (and they provide great performance boost).
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Message 31083 - Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 4:42:50 UTC

Thank you Stefan.

I'm sure this will get resolved.

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Message 31084 - Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 5:58:33 UTC

Not the best news, but thank you for the update. Will keep crunching at Einstein. Keep up the great work, and look forward to bringing my 780 over here.

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Message 31201 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 21:27:07 UTC

The latest NOELIA_1MG beta units were running fine on my windows 7 computer, until I received a "run time limit exceeded error". It happened at the 55 minute mark. So what going on with this?
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Message 31202 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 22:51:19 UTC - in response to Message 31201.  

New test with the latest Beta units that day.

With my GeForce Titan + Windows 8 64 bits + Driver GeForce 320.49 WHQL + Boinc 7.1.18.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D

Still error.

Client_state.xml in my DropBox

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63176535/client_state.xml

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Message 31203 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 23:09:29 UTC - in response to Message 31201.  
Last modified: 3 Jul 2013, 23:17:10 UTC

What indeed?
I have a NOELIA_1MG that has reached 46% in 1h 41min on a GTX650TiBoost (Linux), but I can see you have 9 which all failed after ~3301seconds (55min) on a W7 system. I doubt this is a coincidence, especially considering your error messages are all:
Exit status 197 (0xc5) EXIT_TIME_LIMIT_EXCEEDED
Maximum elapsed time exceeded

Perhaps Noelia is trying to add some sort of a time limit parameter to the WU's? Hope so, saves me suggesting it.

All your tasks failed at about 25min CPU time, but my WU has reached ~33min CPU time.

Any would be limit might be based on steps/computation size, and just expressed as a time?
My in progress WU is 'here' but this issue could well just be Windows only...

It's likely these WU's are not to test Titan GPUs!
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Message 31204 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 23:26:58 UTC - in response to Message 31203.  
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I just had 4 NOELIA_1MG units all fail, on my Windows 8.1 Preview x64 OS.

The details were:
- all failed at RunTime: 3,422
- all failed with error: 197 (0xc5) EXIT_TIME_LIMIT_EXCEEDED
- all failed with error message: Maximum elapsed time exceeded

I believe 3 of them were attempted on my GTX 460, and 1 was attempted on my GTX 660 Ti.

Is there some sort of 57-minute-limit hard-coded into these?!?

82equ-NOELIA_1MG-0-1-RND5404_0
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=7014519
80equ-NOELIA_1MG-0-1-RND8782_0
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=7014517
77equ-NOELIA_1MG-0-1-RND9934_0
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=7014514
20equ-NOELIA_1MG-0-1-RND1123_0
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=7014441
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Message 31209 - Posted: 4 Jul 2013, 10:56:37 UTC - in response to Message 31204.  

The WU on my Linux system completed:
    name 53equ-NOELIA_1MG-0-1-RND1933
    application ACEMD beta version
    created 3 Jul 2013 | 15:38:02 UTC
    canonical result 7014484
    granted credit 38,025.00
    minimum quorum 1
    initial replication 1
    max # of error/total/success tasks 7, 10, 6
    Task - Computer - Sent Time - reported or deadline - Status - Run time (sec) - CPU time (sec) - Credit - Application
    7014484 154384 3 Jul 2013 | 19:01:52 UTC 4 Jul 2013 | 1:19:44 UTC Completed and validated 13,469.70 4,359.40 38,025.00 ACEMD beta version v6.49 (cuda42)


It looks like the Windows app (v6.53) is failing but not the linux app (v6.49).
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Message 31217 - Posted: 4 Jul 2013, 18:05:42 UTC - in response to Message 31209.  

I just now caught on that there were more betas available and set my Titan machine to download.

I got 34equ-NOELIA_1MG-0-1-RND8981_1 (one task only) even though i have two Titans in that box.

It said the estimated completion time was around 45 seconds. That elapsed and the system said it was at only a little over 1% completed. I'm thinking the estimation calc is somehow skewed. But the task is running...ON A GTX TITAN on Windows 7 64bit!

That's progress!

I will post back with results when complete.

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Message 31219 - Posted: 4 Jul 2013, 19:07:18 UTC - in response to Message 31217.  



I got 34equ-NOELIA_1MG-0-1-RND8981_1....

I will post back with results when complete.


As others have found, I also got:

197 (0xc5) EXIT_TIME_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

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Message 31226 - Posted: 4 Jul 2013, 20:55:05 UTC - in response to Message 31219.  

There has been no announcement that these NOELIA_1MG WU's are specifically intended for Titan's.

On Windows they are all failing for every card type with the same error.
Some have succeed on Linux (different app though). Would be good to know if anyone with a Titan on Linux ran one...
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Message 31232 - Posted: 4 Jul 2013, 21:43:20 UTC - in response to Message 31226.  

There has been no announcement that these NOELIA_1MG WU's are specifically intended for Titan's.

On Windows they are all failing for every card type with the same error.
Some have succeed on Linux (different app though). Would be good to know if anyone with a Titan on Linux ran one...

Same here. 8 betas, all failed on Windows. The only one that completer successfully was on Linux. Going to run out my cache and switch back for a while.
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Message 31240 - Posted: 5 Jul 2013, 5:35:34 UTC

6 ACEMD beta received, all failed after 2298 seconds (38,3 minutes).

<core_client_version>7.0.64</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Maximum elapsed time exceeded
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<stderr_txt>
MDIO: cannot open file "restart.coor"


Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Breakpoint Encountered (0x80000003) at address 0x755F3219

Engaging BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger...


That's with a GTX Titan on Win7 64bit.
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Message 31241 - Posted: 5 Jul 2013, 7:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 31204.  

Is there some sort of 57-minute-limit hard-coded into these?!?


Following your assumption, I messed a little bit with the client_state file, while the last of the current beta units was running, and I guess it could be a too low fpops limit.

By increasing the rsc_fpops_bound value of the running unit 3-fold from 2.5 *10^15 to 7.5 *10^15, the workunit was indeed running longer than the previous 2298 seconds and did finish in time.

Most important, this workunit also validated ok with a GTX Titan on Win7 64bit!

100equ-NOELIA_1MG-0-1-RND2150

<core_client_version>7.0.64</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
MDIO: cannot open file "restart.coor"
# Time per step (avg over 440000 steps): 11.604 ms
# Approximate elapsed time for entire WU: 6092.349 s
09:09:41 (3464): called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>


Two side notes:
- the remaining time calculation on these units is wrong (as already noted)
- when closing BOINC manager and apps, to edit the client_state file, it killed my nvidia driver for a second

My suggestion is to increase the fpops limit of the current beta batch and to send them out anew? Dunno why Linux is not affected.

I'm off for the weekend for some concert and festival, so I'll put my Titan off GPUGrid again. Nice weekend everyone!
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Message 31242 - Posted: 5 Jul 2013, 7:37:34 UTC - in response to Message 30891.  

What we lack: Even a single occurrence where a Windows Titan crunched a Beta app successfully.


Hello Stefan,

just in case you missed it, I had some valid results already w/ the small test units sent out end of May (related post here).
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Message 31248 - Posted: 5 Jul 2013, 11:52:58 UTC - in response to Message 31242.  

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Message 31268 - Posted: 5 Jul 2013, 20:39:26 UTC - in response to Message 31248.  

Indeed! I sent Stefan a PM about it this morning, in case he hadn't already seen it.

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Message 31367 - Posted: 9 Jul 2013, 13:35:18 UTC

Thank you. The (new?) batch sent out today still has the "Maximum elapsed time exceeded" problem apparently.

http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=4581360

Could finish a total of four since Friday successfully (Titan + Win7 64bit + manual edit)...
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Message 31368 - Posted: 9 Jul 2013, 14:02:34 UTC

They're not syncing up with CPU for whatever reason. I don't know if this is a problem, or the problem, but it seems rather odd.
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