Argh! These NOELIA_xMG_RUN WUs are taking too long on my 650Ti, around 44h!! I aborted two of them, hoping for a NOELIA_klebe or NATHAN, but nope, it was one of these beasts or nothing..

What times do you guys see for these WUs?

Same here. I think Noelia has thrown us another curve without notice. Just as the NOELIA_klebe will not run on cards with less than 1GB, these NOELIA_xMG_RUN WUs look as if they run OK on 2GB cards but extremely slow on 1GB. Some of the earlier NATHAN WUs had a similar behavior on < 1GB GPUs and ran at 1/2 speed. He fixed them and the later NATHANs then ran fine on sub 1GB cards. I think maybe NOELIA has just knocked all 1GB GPUs off GPUGrid. Very sad indeed.

Same here. I think Noelia has thrown us another curve without notice. Just as the NOELIA_klebe will not run on cards with less than 1GB, these NOELIA_xMG_RUN WUs look as if they run OK on 2GB cards but extremely slow on 1GB. Some of the earlier NATHAN WUs had a similar behavior on < 1GB GPUs and ran at 1/2 speed. He fixed them and the later NATHANs then ran fine on sub 1GB cards. I think maybe NOELIA has just knocked all 1GB GPUs off GPUGrid. Very sad indeed.

My experiences above were only on the NOELIA_klebe, so I don't know what problems will occur on the NOELIA_xMG_RUN. But my 660s have 2GB, and my 650 Ti has 1GB, so I guess I will find out.

Maybe they should have an opt-in for these larger sizes? I am sure there are plenty of cards around that can do them, it is just a question of getting the right work unit on the right card.

Same here. I think Noelia has thrown us another curve without notice. Just as the NOELIA_klebe will not run on cards with less than 1GB, these NOELIA_xMG_RUN WUs look as if they run OK on 2GB cards but extremely slow on 1GB. Some of the earlier NATHAN WUs had a similar behavior on < 1GB GPUs and ran at 1/2 speed. He fixed them and the later NATHANs then ran fine on sub 1GB cards. I think maybe NOELIA has just knocked all 1GB GPUs off GPUGrid. Very sad indeed.

My experiences above were only on the NOELIA_klebe, so I don't know what problems will occur on the NOELIA_xMG_RUN. But my 660s have 2GB, and my 650 Ti has 1GB, so I guess I will find out.

Maybe they should have an opt-in for these larger sizes? I am sure there are plenty of cards around that can do them, it is just a question of getting the right work unit on the right card.

We've asked and asked and it should be simple to do. Maybe don't know how, don't care? Who knows.

These MG Units are the first ones that run bit different in relation to all others before here ^^ The single 560TI 448 Cores in the Pentium4 system run MG Units a bit faster then one of the two 570 Cards in a Core2Duo System. I would suggest it is the card in the x4 Slot. But never saw before the 570 with higher runtime then the 560. Seems first time to me that a bit PCIe bandwidth is needed.

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These MG Units are the first ones that run bit different in relation to all others before here ^^ The single 560TI 448 Cores in the Pentium4 system run MG Units a bit faster then one of the two 570 Cards in a Core2Duo System. I would suggest it is the card in the x4 Slot. But never saw before the 570 with higher runtime then the 560. Seems first time to me that a bit PCIe bandwidth is needed.

Also looks like they run OK in 1279MB, so it seems they need more than 1024MB but somewhere less than 1279MB to run at an acceptable speed. Unfortunately that's too bad for most of us.

I have a 7MG work unit running on 650 Ti on windows 7, GPU usage is 98% and it is 50% after 20 hours. Similar 7MG units are running on my 470 with about 85% done after 14 hours, and 660 Ti about 55% done after 5.5 hours, so I guess it is the GPU memory that is the problem. 650 Ti has 1GB, 470 has 1280MB, and 660 Ti has 2GB.

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It just took 8 hours 27 minutes for my 670 to finish a 7MG_RUN with a 151MB upload, I noticed that the NATHAN's used over 95% of the CPU while the NOELIA's use less than 50% of the CPU. My 680's and 770 take about 7 hours 40 minutes, I have no choice but to use the 320.xx series drivers other wise the 770 won't work, the 320.49 seems to be fine but the other 320's are buggy (it's all over the internet).

It looks like were going to have to buck up and bite the bullet and get through these work units, it's been running in the mid 90's F here where I live in the Sierra's and I've had to shut down half my rigs for 6 - 8 hours every day. The San Joaquin Valley has been hitting 105°-110°F, so I guess I'm lucky I live at 5000 feet, these are normal temperatures for here in the summer and it's tolerable with the humidity at 25%. I just wish it would cool off so I can keep all my rigs running 24/7.

Just for your information, my graphics card is a GTX660 with 2GB of memory, and I'm still unable to these WUs well. Maybe it's different on Linux than on Windows?

Kenneth.. sorry there was no clear response before: nVidia driver 319 has been shown by at least 2 others to cause the issue you describing. Downgrading to 310 has fixed it in both cases, so give it a try.

MrS

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A Noelia 7MG is using 1329MB RAM on my GTX 480 (Win7 x64), another one (on a GTX 670 WinXP x64) is started at 1188MB memory usage, and it's slowly rising. So these workunits won't fit in 1GB RAM. I had a stuck workunit, it made no progress after 6 hours, so I've aborted it, however it's page shows 0 sec runtime. The subsequent workunit also stuck at 0% progress, but a system restart fixed this situation.

Just for your information, my graphics card is a GTX660 with 2GB of memory, and I'm still unable to these WUs well. Maybe it's different on Linux than on Windows?

One of the problems with Linux is lack of good monitoring and GPU clock adjusting software, in Windows, when one wu finished and another started, especially when going from a NATHAN to a NOELIA, my GPU clock would change. Sometimes it would boost too high and cause errors, I am able to create profiles in PrecisionX and reset everything with one click.

I know there aren't very good apps for Linux (at least that I'm aware of) for doing this, it would certainly help. I wish someone would write a good one soon because I'll be switching to it when NVidia stops making drivers for XP x64 and Microsoft stops supporting it next year.

I think maybe NOELIA has just knocked all 1GB GPUs off GPUGrid. Very sad indeed.

Since all 9 of my NVidia GPUs are 1GB or less, and I can't get anything but these #*&$% NOELIA_1MG WUs, I'm off the project till something changes here. Think I'll have a lot of company,,, Sad :-(

This batch could well have a GDDR capacity issue for anything other than cards with 2GB GDDR (which suggests CUDA routine selection isn't working/doesn't exist in this run), and possibly a separate issue with Linux... I will plug in a rig tomorrow with a GTX650Ti and 304.88 to confirm this, but it's obviously going to take a while!

I would be reluctant to entirely blame Linux drivers however - my GTX470 WU took 25h 20min (too long), and about 10min to upload, and I'm using the 304.88 driver (which was fine up to now, and on two different systems). The numbers don't look right for a ~2.4 times downclock (My GTX470 will only downclock to 405 or 50MHz) and NVidia X Server tells me that my 470 is at it's FOC settings of 656MHz and 60°C (dual fan @72% and open case).

On Windows 7 and GPU's with 2GB GDDR I've had no issues (314.22 drivers).

The memory controller load is higher on these WU's (38% for a GTX660Ti and 31% on a GTX660, W7) and the app is 6.18 (an older one), so this looks like a basal (marker) run. I don't expect we will be seeing months of work on the 6.18 app. More likely a few days.

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Since all 9 of my NVidia GPUs are 1GB or less, and I can't get anything but these #*&$% NOELIA_1MG WUs, I'm off the project till something changes here. Think I'll have a lot of company,,, Sad :-(

A NOELIA_1MG just crashed on my GTX 660 with 2 GB memory after 7 hours run time, so there is no guarantee that even more memory will fix it (Win7 64-bit, 314.22 drivers, supported by a virtual core of an i7-3770).

The other NOELIAs that I have received have been fine, though that is not the entire set. There are some good ones and some not-so-good ones.

This one 1MG crashed too on several machines like my superstable one http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=4583900

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I think maybe NOELIA has just knocked all 1GB GPUs off GPUGrid. Very sad indeed.

Since all 9 of my NVidia GPUs are 1GB or less, and I can't get anything but these #*&$% NOELIA_1MG WUs, I'm off the project till something changes here. Think I'll have a lot of company,,, Sad :-(

I agree 100% and have already moved my 650Ti to Einstein. Alas, Einstein's credit is SO lame!

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This is just weird.

NVIDIA 320.18

WinXP computer with two reference 560tis is showing 14.5 hours elapsed, 3.5 hours to go, but 48% done. Ok..., that's not even close. GPU usage, 94-99%.

Another computer, another pair of 560Ti cards, another 320.18 driver -

Win7 Pro 28.25 hours elapsed, 2 hours to go, 92% done, GPU usage 97-99%.

Really? 30 hours on a 560Ti? 30 hours?

The 560s (no Ti) are warm and 96%, looks like they will take 18 hours. Those are 2GB cards.

Looks like 24 hours on a different SOC 560Ti but only 16 hours on a 560Ti-448. So, yeah, it looks like 1GB is just a little too little RAM, but 1.2GB is better. It's not great because a 560Ti-448 should fly compared to a 560.

The GTX470s (1.2GB) are doing them in about 15.3 hours. That makes them faster than the 560Ti-448. Yeah, that was a thing that made me go "Hmmmm."

The 660Tis and 670s are doing much, much better, of course; about 11.5 hours.

I've set NNT on my seven 560Tis. I've had multiple driver crashes and compute errors after 7 or 8 hours of crunching. I'll let what I've got either crunch or crash, but I don't want any more of these work units on a 560Ti and I don't want to have to change my drivers every time the work changes, so while I believe a downgrade might work, I'm unwilling. (call me lazy)

Ordinarily I'd say, "I don't care about the credits" but the fact is I'm in a little race with a friend so this time I do care. I don't care enough to get mad or upset, but I care a little.

Oh, all the CPU cores are idle other than feeding the GPUs in every case.

I'm just reporting-in.

I didn´t want to complain earlier, but with more than ten WU´s failed since yesterday (not different than the other days) I feel compelled to do it. The Noelias, new and not so new ones, are failing on all my rigs and cards (690s and 770s).
Can we please change them?

On my GTX550Ti with 1GB RAM a Noelia (klebe run) took 46h22m to finish without error. On a WinVista x86 rig with 2 CPU cores doing Einstein@home and nVidia driver 320.49.

On the 660 the Noelia have "normal" run-times. One with Vista x64 and driver 420.49 as well, the other on Win7 x64 and driver 320.18

With 1 error in 12 WU's I don't see the need to update the drivers just yet.

Happy crunching

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This isn't funny --- ok, so it is funny, but only because nothing burned-up:

I've now caught two computers, both Windows, both running Precision X, one running 3x 560 and one 3x 560Ti, resetting my manually set 100% fan speeds back to "auto" but only on ONE card. Really weird. Really strange. In both cases it was the middle (read: hottest) card (Device 1).

That's never happened before, but I'm guessing it is a driver-related failure caused by these new work units.

Oh, and the "time remaining" is increasing, so the 60% completed I reported earlier is probably better than the estimated time remaining.

AND as if that weren't enough, it's taking close to two hours to upload the 147MB results at 27.5kbps.

I'd say someone needs to take this work either:
A) back to the drawing board
B) out to the woodshed for a serious talking-to