WELL..... new Noelias are filling the cache.... let´s see how these ones goes and hope for the best.

Well, my 650Ti doesn't seem to like them AT ALL! At least this one.

Slot: 0
Task: 063ppx8x1-NOELIA_klebe_run4-0-3-RND9577_0
Elapsed: 04:29
CPU time: 00:17
Percent done: 03.76
Estimated: 119:17
Remaining: 114:36

So, it will take something like 5 days to finish on my 650Ti! I wonder if there's a card out there that can finish these in the 24h window...

Reporting back on this. It turned out (with the help of HA-SOFT, s.r.o., thanks!) that NOELIAs have some trouble with driver 319 under Linux. I downgraded to 310.44 and the NOELIA I was currently crunching started progressing at a much faster rate. It finished in ~25h (previously estimated at 119h!) and, of course, I missed the 24h bonus, but only because I had lost ~7 hours with the newer driver.

The new NOELIA_klebe_run I got has an estimated 18:09, which is about the same with NATHANs on my GTX 650Ti. What's sweet with these NOELIAs is the CPU usage, about 40-45% of my i7 870.

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The 304.88 repository driver works just fine. In my opinion there are too many issues with the ~320 drivers for both Windows and Linux.

83equ-NOELIA_7mg_restraint-0-1-RND2660_2 4581443 9 Jul 2013 | 22:39:33 UTC 10 Jul 2013 | 8:39:45 UTC Completed and validated 13,625.77 4,782.22 38,025.00 ACEMD beta version v6.49 (cuda42)

The times look similar to last weeks:

53equ-NOELIA_1MG-0-1-RND1933_0 4565739 3 Jul 2013 | 19:01:52 UTC 4 Jul 2013 | 1:19:44 UTC Completed and validated 13,469.70 4,359.40 38,025.00 ACEMD beta version v6.49 (cuda42)

I like that the Beta credit is in line with Long WU's even though the Betas are quite short.

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It turned out (with the help of HA-SOFT, s.r.o., thanks!) that NOELIAs have some trouble with driver 319 under Linux. I downgraded to 310.44 and the NOELIA I was currently crunching started progressing at a much faster rate.

Don't know what's going on with NV drivers lately. Had to switch 3 of my GPUs to other projects because of the NOELIAs and found that while 2 ran fine at SETI, the 3rd did not. Looked at them and sure enough the 3rd had a newer driver (all are Win7-64). Reverted to 310.90 and SETI ran like a charm. So it's not just Linux, it's Windows too with NVidia driver problems.

Thats why the admins over several projects often say, the lastest drivers are perhaps good for gaming but not always for crunching ;) i think the latest really stable crunchproofdrivers are 310.xx Im very careful with driver updates because there where too much problems often enough. But thats not only an NVidia Thing. You can always hit the ground hard with actual ATI/AMD Drivers like 13.x too ;)

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My system builder has threatened me with at least death if I ever update an NVIDIA driver. He carefully selects the driver as he builds the machine and leaves in in place....

I am now running NOELIAs without a problem.

John

John,

What driver do you (and your system builder) like these days?
I haven't noticed any problems with recent Nvidia drivers, but I can't say that they don't occur either.

Argh! These NOELIA_xMG_RUN WUs are taking too long on my 650Ti, around 44h!! I aborted two of them, hoping for a NOELIA_klebe or NATHAN, but nope, it was one of these beasts or nothing..

What times do you guys see for these WUs?

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Just completed 35x5-NOELIA_7MG_RUN-0-2-RND3709 - only a minor increase in runtime (less than 10%) compared to other recent tasks for host 132158.

But I did see that the final upload was ~150 MB - that's back to pre-compression sizes.

I have 3 Noelia's running estimate is 12-13 hours and definitely one will finish in that time. All run on windows (vista and 7) with 320.18 drivers. I had some Noelia SR in the previous days and they finish all okay.
Yesterday evening one resulted in a automatic system boot. Checking Who Crashed shows that it was the nVidia driver. I haven´t changed it yet as I want to see more crashed or bad results.

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Greetings from TJ

Thanks for the responses guys!

You both have faster cards than my 650Ti, you have 660s and 670s.

TJ, it's one of your 660s that estimates to 12-13h, right?

Shouldn't my 650Ti estimate to about twice that, ~24h? Instead, my estimate is at 44h, which is more than 3x your 660's time!

I hope these NOELIAs don't have a problem with driver 310 under Linux!

Edit: TJ, I guess your estimates are from the BOINC manager, right? My 44h estimate is from a script I have that parses the slots' task state files. My BOINC manager shows ~24h estimate, as expected. Of course, the BOINC manager's estimates are almost always wrong for me...

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Thanks for the responses guys!

You both have faster cards than my 650Ti, you have 660s and 670s.

TJ, it's one of your 660s that estimates to 12-13h, right?

Shouldn't my 650Ti estimate to about twice that, ~24h? Instead, my estimate is at 44h, which is more than 3x your 660's time!

I hope these NOELIAs don't have a problem with driver 310 under Linux!

Edit: TJ, I guess your estimates are from the BOINC manager, right? My 44h estimate is from a script I have that parses the slots' task state files. My BOINC manager shows ~24h estimate, as expected. Of course, the BOINC manager's estimates are almost always wrong for me...

Hello Vagelis,
Yes indeed the 12-13 hour is for the 660. I have also a 550Ti doing a Noelia and that would take about 46 hours! Already 36.5 hours done.
I do the estimates myself. If I see what % has been done in which time I calculate that towards 100%. So 100 divided by percentage % dome times the time it took to do that percentage.
You have to see if the driver works by let it do a few WU's. I don't switch drivers to often.

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Greetings from TJ

I have been running GPUgrid for weeks without trouble, suddenly, a few days ago, all the work units I try to run don't utilize the GPU as before. Initially they are calculated to run for abou 13 hours, but after the 13 hours they have only reached about 15% and the time to completion starts rising. At this point I abort them, if not before, as they don't seem to utilize more than a small part of the GPU.
I'm running Boinc 7.0.65 on Linux, nvidia-drivers 319.23.
So far I've wasted about 2-3 days of electricity trying to crunch. Am I the only one experiencing this? Is it due to the new WUs mentioned?

Argh! These NOELIA_xMG_RUN WUs are taking too long on my 650Ti, around 44h!! I aborted two of them, hoping for a NOELIA_klebe or NATHAN, but nope, it was one of these beasts or nothing..

What times do you guys see for these WUs?

A little under 19 hours on my 650 Ti (980 MHz), using Win7 64-bit. Two have completed successfully, and one is in progress. (The only crash was when I changed a cc_config file on a work in progress; I think it would have completed normally otherwise.)

Did you leave a CPU core free to support the GPU?

I have been running GPUgrid for weeks without trouble, suddenly, a few days ago, all the work units I try to run don't utilize the GPU as before. Initially they are calculated to run for abou 13 hours, but after the 13 hours they have only reached about 15% and the time to completion starts rising. At this point I abort them, if not before, as they don't seem to utilize more than a small part of the GPU.
I'm running Boinc 7.0.65 on Linux, nvidia-drivers 319.23.
So far I've wasted about 2-3 days of electricity trying to crunch. Am I the only one experiencing this? Is it due to the new WUs mentioned?

Well its hard to say I guess. It are all different Noelia WU´s. You can also read in this thread that the driver you are using could be the issue. The klebe-run seems to be in line with the long runs, but on my 550Ti it is already 36.6 hours working for 79%. That 550Ti uses driver 320,18 but could be an issue with this particular WU.
I see regularly that a SR is about 3 times as long on the 550Ti than on the 660 and a LR twice as long.
Now the Noelia klebe is going to take 4 times as long. I like to see some klebe-runs on my 660 first to decide what to do with the driver.

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Greetings from TJ

The NOELIA_xMG_RUN WUs have a very large output file, approximately 147 MB. Are you using the previous application version, again? The units are running otherwise fine, taking me between 10.5 to 11.5 hours to complete on my windows 7 computer, so please don't cancel them, like you did last time.

The units are running otherwise fine, taking me between 10.5 to 11.5 hours to complete on my windows 7 computer, so please don't cancel them, like you did last time.

I agree. They are running fine on both of my 660's and 650 Ti.
It is too early to see what the error rate is; it may be a little more than the Nathans, but not very much thus far.

How long should I let them run, then? If they were using the GPU 100% I'd have let them run, but they don't. That's why I cancelled them, fearing they would take days to run or eventually error out.
Unfortunately the only way I can see how much they use the GPU is by watching the temperature; usually it stays around 60-62 degrees, with the new WUs it's around 50. Idle is 35-40. Oh, and ambient temperature is higher than normal the last few days (35-38 degrees), so that's not the issue.
I'm not going to downgrade the nvidia-drivers as I'm using the computers for many other things beside crunching, like games.

Anyway, I suppose I'll give it another go then and let it run to 100%, then report back here.

Hi, Jim:

Both my NVIDIA GTX 650 Ti GPUs show driver 320.18 dated 12 May 2013.

John

John,

What driver do you (and your system builder) like these days?
I haven't noticed any problems with recent Nvidia drivers, but I can't say that they don't occur either.

Hi, Jim:

Both my NVIDIA GTX 650 Ti GPUs show driver 320.18 dated 12 May 2013.

John

John,

What driver do you (and your system builder) like these days?
I haven't noticed any problems with recent Nvidia drivers, but I can't say that they don't occur either.

Thanks. I was using 320.49 with no problems on my 650 Ti, but thought I would go back to 310.90 as a test.
But in general (unlike AMD drivers), the Nvidia ones all work the same for me.

I don´t see a difference in temperature still around 66°C just like Nathan´s LR´s.
But I have never seen any use 100% GPU load, now Noelia is around 93%.
All running fine still, but a little slower than Nathan´s but keep in mind that Noelia is using different functionality, so these WU´s can´t be compared one to one I guess.

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Greetings from TJ