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Message 29421 - Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 2:48:56 UTC

I had another NOELIA sneak through on the non-beta long run server, I didn't get the error message this time, it ran for 59 minutes and remained at 0%. The CPU usage was at 0%, the GPU usage was at 0% and the memory controller was at 0% so I aborted it and had to reboot my computer to get my GTX680 working again.

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Message 29422 - Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 8:41:04 UTC
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Also just noticed on one of my Linux machines a NOELIA beta task must have been sent using the non-beta long run server & had stalled 24hrs ago.
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Message 29562 - Posted: 25 Apr 2013, 13:30:42 UTC

I got one Noelia on a vista ultimate x86 system with a GTX550Ti. It took 93686.14 seconds to complete, but it did with almost 95000 credits.
So not all Noelia's WU error out!
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Message 29830 - Posted: 11 May 2013, 19:40:15 UTC

Just had two Noelia tasks failed:
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=6852307
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=6849844

Others running well.
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Message 29898 - Posted: 13 May 2013, 13:43:18 UTC - in response to Message 29830.  
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Just had two Noelia tasks failed:
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=6852307
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=6849844

They both completed successfully on other machines after you posted, but I don't see any rhyme or reason for it. The machines that failed all did so quickly (in a few seconds). But they have a variety of GPU cards and operating systems, and I doubt they were all overclocked so much that they failed right away (though that is a possibility that should be checked), and they wouldn't have time to get too hot either.

I noticed though that my GTX 650 Ti would sometimes fail after only a few seconds, which I haven't yet seen on my GTX 660s (except those bad work units that everyone failed on). That suggests to me that some work units just won't run on some types of cards. I know that on Folding, it was found out a couple of years ago that some of the more complex work units would fail on cards with only 96 shaders, but would run fine with 192 shaders or more. I don't see that pattern here yet, but something else might become apparent.
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Message 29900 - Posted: 13 May 2013, 14:56:06 UTC

Jim1348; Not had any problems with Noelia's with either my 650's nor 670. I am running xp sp3 with beta 320 drivers which have been completely stable for me. Actually I even noticed a small perf improvement over the 314's. Might be worth a try one of your problematic machines?
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Message 29901 - Posted: 13 May 2013, 15:06:27 UTC - in response to Message 29900.  
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Jim1348; Not had any problems with Noelia's with either my 650's nor 670. I am running xp sp3 with beta 320 drivers which have been completely stable for me. Actually I even noticed a small perf improvement over the 314's. Might be worth a try one of your problematic machines?

Not problematic; only an occasional failure at the outset on the GTX 650 Ti. But it was a factory-overlocked card, and I have now reduced the clock (and increased the core voltage) to the point where I don't think it gets even the occasional failure anymore.

But many of the cards are factory-overclocked now. That is the same insofar as errors are concerned as if you had used software to overclock a card; it is the chip specs from Nvidia that determine the default clock rate. If the work units fail quickly, it is not much of a problem and you will gain points overall with the faster clocks.

The real problem comes when they fail after a couple of hours; then you should get out the MSI Afterburner and start reducing the clocks, or check the cooling. You will be points ahead in the end. Also, the work units change difficulty; what starts out as a stable card can easily start failing later when (not if) the harder ones come along. So I just don't overclock, which save a lot of troubleshooting later.
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Message 29902 - Posted: 13 May 2013, 16:52:28 UTC - in response to Message 29421.  

I had another NOELIA sneak through on the non-beta long run server, I didn't get the error message this time, it ran for 59 minutes and remained at 0%. The CPU usage was at 0%, the GPU usage was at 0% and the memory controller was at 0% so I aborted it and had to reboot my computer to get my GTX680 working again.

Windows XP Pro x64

2x EVGA GTX680 2GB

Running CPDN on the other 6 cores.


Same problem here.
Noelia task is running for 10 hours and only 3% done !
No CPU load, no GPU load


Linux Arch - GTX680 - Driver 319.17
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Message 29990 - Posted: 16 May 2013, 6:01:07 UTC

Another Noelia failed after 8:45 hours.
I think I'll take a break with GPUGrid...
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Message 30019 - Posted: 16 May 2013, 17:55:18 UTC

Mumak; reading all negative comments yet I have not had any problems with Noelia's. I see you have two machines, one with a 650ti which appears stable the other with a 660ti which is causing you to loose your hair.
Starting to see a pattern and wondering if Nvidia's boost is causing stability issues here?
Will state the obvious and as a test suggest decreasing your 660ti's power target to 72% and clock to Nvidia's default (928, 1500) and see how it goes?
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Message 30023 - Posted: 16 May 2013, 18:33:46 UTC

I had no issues with other tasks, but Noelia's failed on 650Ti in the past too.. It's no all which fail - I currently got another one, so will see how that goes...
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Message 30028 - Posted: 16 May 2013, 19:22:27 UTC
Last modified: 16 May 2013, 19:23:30 UTC

I only want to ask how much of you try to raise the gpu voltage for about 25mV whats described in some forumthreads. It still is a need on some cards on gpugrid with some type of workunits. Perhaps it helps some of you.
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Message 30052 - Posted: 17 May 2013, 15:24:14 UTC

Just wanted to add that I too had a Noelia WU that ran for almost 7 hrs and was only 5% complete on GTX660Ti. I had to abort it => 291px6x2-NOELIA_klebe_run2-0-3-RND9489 http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=4459890

I'm not here to complain, problems are to be expected (I left Seti project after a month of solid outages/problems), and this to me is just minor, business as usual. I just wanted to post so that maybe it can get corrected. Initially I was concerned since it was the very first task I ran on a new Linux build, but I'm currently about 40% done with I2HDQ_35R5-SDOERR_2HDQd-0-4-RND7274 @ 3hrs 45mins, so everything is looking normal.

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Message 30063 - Posted: 18 May 2013, 12:55:22 UTC

I had another one which if I had let it run, would have taken 100 hours to complete. 041px44x4-NOELIA_klebe_run2-1-3-RND4186, ran ~6hrs for ~6%, so I aborted again. I haven't seen this happening on any of my other machines. They are all Win7, this system is Linux, so maybe there's something wrong specific to the Linux platform? I'll have to investigate further when I get a chance, too much other things going on right now.http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=4464500

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Message 30064 - Posted: 18 May 2013, 13:50:25 UTC - in response to Message 30063.  

This might just be an issue with these specific WU's, they don't run well on Linux.
There are some Downclocking and CPU usage possibilities that might cause this:

If you are not using coolbits to increase the fan speed and the GPU is getting too hot, it would downclock.

The GPU might get downclocked by the OS if the GPU usage isn't perceived as being high enough.

If the CPU's clocks drop (to 1400 MHz) it might starve the GPU enough to cause the GPU's clocks to drop. Top

The problem with Linux is finding out what's going on. I would really like to be able to fill out the Useful Tools area for Linux...
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Message 30067 - Posted: 18 May 2013, 16:21:49 UTC

Has anyone had success in running the current Noelias under Linux? So far I've read a few posts saying it wouldn't work at all.

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Message 30068 - Posted: 18 May 2013, 16:25:38 UTC - in response to Message 30067.  
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People tend to complain when things aren't working, rather than when things are working.

There are some successful (and normal) Linux runs for NOELIA_klebe WU's out there:

005px12x2-NOELIA_klebe_run-1-3-RND5943_1 4441647 16 May 2013 | 12:36:44 UTC 16 May 2013 | 23:06:31 UTC Completed and validated 36,427.18 15,679.52 127,800.00 Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=6878594

255px50x1-NOELIA_klebe_run2-0-3-RND5892_0 4458045 16 May 2013 | 17:37:23 UTC 17 May 2013 | 9:19:35 UTC Completed and validated 36,790.19 18,420.04 127,800.00 Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=4458045

306px36x4-NOELIA_klebe_run-2-3-RND3942_0 4447878 14 May 2013 | 2:20:57 UTC 14 May 2013 | 12:38:57 UTC Completed and validated 36,208.52 15,933.88 127,800.00 Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=4447878

All 3 on the same rig.


291px19x1-NOELIA_klebe_run2-0-3-RND1187_1 4459422 18 May 2013 | 1:41:50 UTC 18 May 2013 | 15:27:00 UTC Completed and validated 41,384.82 2,370.90 127,800.00 Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=4459422

148nx1x4-NOELIA_klebe_run2-0-3-RND6125_1 4455890 16 May 2013 | 21:26:28 UTC 17 May 2013 | 13:28:33 UTC Completed and validated 40,988.13 17,533.30 127,800.00 Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=4455890

290px25x1-NOELIA_klebe_run-2-3-RND9425_1 4444345 17 May 2013 | 16:11:58 UTC 18 May 2013 | 6:09:31 UTC Completed and validated 38,213.60 3,327.34 127,800.00 Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v6.18 (cuda42)
http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=4444345

3 more different Linux rigs, and different WU's, and enough for me.
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Message 30077 - Posted: 18 May 2013, 22:23:14 UTC - in response to Message 30068.  

People tend to complain when things aren't working, rather than when things are working.

Sad but true, almost over the entire planet.

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Message 30080 - Posted: 19 May 2013, 4:39:08 UTC - in response to Message 30077.  

People tend to complain when things aren't working, rather than when things are working.

Sad but true, almost over the entire planet.

Why would people complain when things are working?
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Message 30082 - Posted: 19 May 2013, 6:40:28 UTC
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I have finished succesfullty over 25 new NOELIAS in Linux on my PC with two GTX 660Ti but this morning I've found one at 0% after six hours of processing, stopped it and restarted but still no progress, reboot and start boincmanager but the machine has quickly become unusuable and I had to restart again and abort the unit. These messages were in the log:

Sun 19 May 2013 08:15:45 AM CEST GPUGRID Task 216px32x1-NOELIA_klebe_run2-0-3-RND9100_4: no shared memory segment
Sun 19 May 2013 08:15:45 AM CEST GPUGRID Task 216px32x1-NOELIA_klebe_run2-0-3-RND9100_4 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file

The fist one I hadn't noticed before. The second one is common of suspended and restarted units but before aborting the units it appeared many times so it seems like the unit was restarting itself again and again.

I've seen that all other wingmen have computation errors.

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