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Message 2122 - Posted: 6 Sep 2008, 12:25:27 UTC - in response to Message 2115.  

Quattro GVS 290 will take 175 hours :-((


It's actually difficult to find out what this piece of hardware is, but wiki says it uses a NVG86, which is basically the same as the slow 16-shader Geforce 8400. Crunching is not what these are made for.

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Message 2133 - Posted: 6 Sep 2008, 16:59:30 UTC - in response to Message 2122.  

Quattro GVS 290 will take 175 hours :-((


It's actually difficult to find out what this piece of hardware is, but wiki says it uses a NVG86, which is basically the same as the slow 16-shader Geforce 8400. Crunching is not what these are made for.

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I'd like to see how a tesla S1070 GPU would perform here. 960 cores, 16 GB ram, and 4.3 Tflops assumed to be based on a 280 GTX.

Less than 2 hours per task?

I never was an ATI fan even after they released the 2 Tflops 4870x2, after 2 generations of bad experience with ATI and 4 good experiences with nvidias, I'm sticking with nvidia.

That, and its industry wide acceptance from being run on PS3 and Xbox and its logo being slapped into every game!
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Message 2136 - Posted: 6 Sep 2008, 18:43:20 UTC

The Tesla S1070 uses 4 GT200 chips with more memory than on the desktop cards (4GB per chip). I don't know if the software sees them as 4 seperate GPUs or as a single one. In the first case you'd get about 4 WUs every 7h, in the second it should be a WU in less than 2h. Well, if you spend 8000$ you'd better get some serious performance for your money!
(its got the shaders clocked at 1.5 GHz instead of 1.3 GHz on the 280GTX)

I never was an ATI fan


I doesn't matter if your arguments are valid or not, please don't mention this topic here. Experience shows that any sane, technical conversation can be turned into a flame war within seconds, if the other company is mentioned ;)

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Message 2212 - Posted: 9 Sep 2008, 9:19:30 UTC - in response to Message 2099.  



Cpu cores will soon be not necessary.

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Can you say more about this please? what does "soon" mean for you? next week? next month? next year? xD

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Message 2214 - Posted: 9 Sep 2008, 12:04:46 UTC - in response to Message 2212.  
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Cpu cores will soon be not necessary.

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Can you say more about this please? what does "soon" mean for you? next week? next month? next year? xD

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It does not depends on me, but on BOINC. We have at least to wait for version 6.3.11. The application and server are ready.

I would say one or two weeks.

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Message 2215 - Posted: 9 Sep 2008, 12:05:47 UTC

Ah ok, thank you :D
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Message 2278 - Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 19:23:59 UTC

Guys, I'm confused! 2 Questions.

First: how fast is the GT200?

The data which Thomas collected, i.e. 25.000 and 28.000 s/WU, seems to be the norm. That means a GT200 shader does considerably more work per clock cycle than a G9x shader.

However, I just stoumbled across these 2 machines (1 from Stefan & Nr 2). The first uses a stock GTX260 and Vista and with 6.3.10 and 6.43 it needs 35.000 - 36.000 s/WU. That's what would be expected if its shaders were as fast as G92 per clock and I'd figure in a 20% bonus for the Vista driver.
The other machine is a OC'ed GTX280 and produced one 35.200 s result. Maybe it's just the odd man out.

The other question: is the theory about the Vista driver being ~20% faster really true?

So far there was nothing which forced me to that conclusion, but nothing contradicted it, so it was a reasonable thing to assume.

And.. damn! I accidently closed the tab. Well, I found a machine which did not behave as expected but forgot the details.

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Message 2289 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 13:07:58 UTC

Well, I just finished my first task on a GPU, and am concerned with the result. It took 58437.03 seconds, or 16.23 hours, which is about twice as long as I expected. Am I doing something wrong?

http://www.ps3grid.net/result.php?resultid=56210


stderr out : <core_client_version>6.3.10</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> # Using CUDA device 0 # Device 0: "GeForce GTX 280" # Clock rate: 1404000 kilohertz MDIO ERROR: cannot open file "restart.coor" called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> ]]>


Machine: Q6600 (@2.7ghz), 6gb RAM, running XP64; BFG GTX 280 BFGEGTX2801024OC2E; BOINC 6.3.10; Driver is 177.41_geforce_winxp_64bit_english_whql, freshly downloaded yesterday. I ran this task with no other tasks running. It is a dedcated cruncher, so nothing but BOINC is running on it.


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Message 2290 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 14:34:44 UTC
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Over 16 hours is a little bit slow for that card...
You could try newer drivers (177.84), from the CUDA download site - Direct link to Win64 177.84 driver -http://www.nvidia.com/object/thankyou.html?url=/compute/cuda/2_0/windows/driver/NVIDIADisplayWin2KAMD64(177_84)Int.exe.

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Message 2291 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 14:51:11 UTC - in response to Message 2289.  

Well, I just finished my first task on a GPU, and am concerned with the result. It took 58437.03 seconds, or 16.23 hours, which is about twice as long as I expected. Am I doing something wrong?

http://www.ps3grid.net/result.php?resultid=56210


stderr out : 6.3.10 # Using CUDA device 0 # Device 0: "GeForce GTX 280" # Clock rate: 1404000 kilohertz MDIO ERROR: cannot open file "restart.coor" called boinc_finish ]]>


Machine: Q6600 (@2.7ghz), 6gb RAM, running XP64; BFG GTX 280 BFGEGTX2801024OC2E; BOINC 6.3.10; Driver is 177.41_geforce_winxp_64bit_english_whql, freshly downloaded yesterday. I ran this task with no other tasks running. It is a dedcated cruncher, so nothing but BOINC is running on it.



I have looked at it. The new windows application coming up will report the time per step which should tells us what's wrong with your system.
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Message 2292 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 15:08:36 UTC - in response to Message 2291.  

I have looked at it. The new windows application coming up will report the time per step which should tells us what's wrong with your system.


Thanks. When do you expect it to be released?

For what it's worth, I installed the Nvidia tools, and took a look at the GPU settings. It reports everything as expected:

GPU Core: 650 MHz
GPU mem speed: 1163 MHz
GPU shader clock: 1404 MHz

These are all factory settings. I have not changed anything.
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Message 2294 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 17:27:37 UTC

I'd also say give the new drivers a shot. Either 177.84 or 177.92.

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Message 2295 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 17:37:04 UTC - in response to Message 2294.  

I'd also say give the new drivers a shot. Either 177.84 or 177.92.

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The newest is 177.98, Running here under VISTA 64 fine,
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Message 2296 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 18:07:09 UTC

Where did you get the 177.98? I still only see 177.92 when I select beta drivers from nvidia's site for vista x64.
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Message 2297 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 18:07:36 UTC

Any performance changes?

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Message 2298 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 20:19:45 UTC - in response to Message 2296.  

Where did you get the 177.98? I still only see 177.92 when I select beta drivers from nvidia's site for vista x64.


I took the driver from this side:

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showforum=94
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Message 2299 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 20:21:56 UTC - in response to Message 2297.  

Any performance changes?

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At the same time I overclocked my card, so I can't answer your question.
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Message 2300 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 22:58:53 UTC - in response to Message 2294.  

I'd also say give the new drivers a shot. Either 177.84 or 177.92.


Good call. Looks like I will be down to a bit over 6 hours when my current task finishes.
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Message 2307 - Posted: 13 Sep 2008, 13:36:44 UTC - in response to Message 2300.  

I'd also say give the new drivers a shot. Either 177.84 or 177.92.


Good call. Looks like I will be down to a bit over 6 hours when my current task finishes.


Well, I am bottoming out around 24,600 seconds, or 6.8 hours, with 177.92. Much better than 16+ hours!

http://www.ps3grid.net/result.php?resultid=56209

I understand that Vista is supposed to be faster than XP. But how does the speed of XP64 compare to Linux64?

Thanks again for all the help!
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Message 2308 - Posted: 13 Sep 2008, 13:47:27 UTC

The speed is almost the same. One member of our team has a 9800GTX+ (XP64) which is only little better clocked than my 8800GTS OC (Linux) and we have nearly the same time at around 44000 seconds.
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