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Message 27836 - Posted: 25 Dec 2012, 22:15:19 UTC - in response to Message 27835.  

errata:

GPU1 (GTX690) 41 C
GPU2 (GTX690) 82 C
GPU3 (GTX690) 81 C
GPU4 (GTX690) 35 C
GPU5 (GT 640) 43 C
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Message 27837 - Posted: 25 Dec 2012, 22:31:19 UTC

Using a file cc_config to limit the use of the GPU is possible that the Boinc manager stops any new WU. I had a same experience with Poem and GPUGRID...after a little my cache was empty and the Boinc manager didn`t get new WU! By removing the cc_config file the problem was solved :-)
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Message 27838 - Posted: 26 Dec 2012, 0:35:31 UTC - in response to Message 27835.  

Mistery solved. I am now in the second batch of my new rig and all four coprocesors are now running cuda tasks. This might be some kind of "testing" of the cards from the project side.
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Message 28138 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 0:21:46 UTC

Zoltan;

I read with interest your problems with the 690 card.

I have a workstation that came with a Quadro 4000 and a Tesla.

I wanted two GTX 590 cards instead but was having problems with the "reverse airflow" causing the GPU closest to the front of the case to operate at least 20C higher than the one venting out the back of the case.

I just finished rigging a dual water cooling solution using a Koolance EXOS and two Danger Den water blocks. Both GTX 590 are now mildy OC'd and running at 53-57C.

I have never understood why Nvidia thought having the airflow going in two directions (front and back) was ever going to work properly in a cases with fans blowing directly into the exhaust of the front GPU (like my Dell Precision). To me water cooling is the only reasonable solution for the longevity of the card.

I'm glad you got yours working properly!

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Message 28162 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 18:48:32 UTC - in response to Message 28138.  

I have never understood why Nvidia thought having the airflow going in two directions (front and back) was ever going to work properly in a cases with fans blowing directly into the exhaust of the front GPU (like my Dell Precision).

Maybe they never did? Reverse the front fans (and have some input somewhere) and the problem is gone.

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Message 28164 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 20:34:52 UTC - in response to Message 28162.  
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Problem is on the Precision chassis (as with most, if not all, Dell tower chassis) the airflow goes in the front (usually assisted by one or more fans) and out the back.

Reversing the huge front fan in my chassis would affect more than just the GTX 590 cards, I have to consider the secondary Xeon processor as well. So reversing that fan was not a good option for me. So water cooling was the answer.

I know now that it's easier to build a "killer cruncher" by buying components and doing all the engineering yourself than it is to try and take an off the shelf workstation and adapt it to the task of devouring WUs.

Next time I'll go with something like the EVGA SR2 and whatever the current best-in-class GPUs are, etc.

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Message 28441 - Posted: 7 Feb 2013, 15:19:43 UTC - in response to Message 28164.  

I know now that it's easier to build a "killer cruncher" by buying components and doing all the engineering yourself than it is to try and take an off the shelf workstation and adapt it to the task of devouring WUs.

Easier, better and less expensive...
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Message 29575 - Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 11:14:14 UTC - in response to Message 27390.  

My only GTX 690 (with the failed then changed cooling) has failed yesterday while it was crunching. There was no environmental hazard of any kind.
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Message 29583 - Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 21:49:04 UTC - in response to Message 29575.  

My only GTX 690 (with the failed then changed cooling) has failed yesterday while it was crunching. There was no environmental hazard of any kind.


What´s the temperature you was running it mate? I don´t let it ever pass 75°C, and my 6 where ok for almost a year now.
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Message 29584 - Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 22:06:59 UTC - in response to Message 29583.  
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The temperatures of the GTX 690 were 62°C and 65°C. Everything was OK. This host had a GTX 670 beside the GTX 690. The GTX 670 kept on crunching fine after the GTX 690 had failed. I didn't overclocked the GTX 690. It simply broke down in the middle of crunching. This host has an Enermax MaxRevo 1500W power supply, and an ASUS Rampage III Extreme motherboard.
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Message 29585 - Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 2:04:17 UTC

what was the cause of the error?
If you can tell? Like was it temperature related or a NAN or something else.

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Message 29587 - Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 4:29:16 UTC - in response to Message 29585.  

what was the cause of the error?
If you can tell? Like was it temperature related or a NAN or something else.



It wasn't an error from what he wrote, the video card died. I had a GTX670 die 2 months ago for no reason (water cooled), it was a eVga video card with a 3 year warranty and I have it as a spare now after getting the replacement back.
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Message 29590 - Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 10:30:55 UTC

Sometimes hardware just breaks. If there was any observable, even remotely possible reason in his case he probably would have mentioned it.

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Message 29592 - Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 12:41:56 UTC - in response to Message 29585.  

what was the cause of the error?
If you can tell? Like was it temperature related or a NAN or something else.

The workunits didn't fail, only the card. The GTX670 finished the two workunits which the GTX 690 could process only partially.
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Message 30767 - Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 19:28:59 UTC
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It seems that one of my 690´s on the 3x690 rig had a leaked vapor chamber. Luckly enough, I was able to catch the temperature increase in the exctly moment and underclock it. Just ordered a Accelero cooler to this unit.
Retvari, a question: i can´t figure is for sure from the pics, but once in place, this card/cooler will use 3 bays right?
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Message 30805 - Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 20:44:24 UTC - in response to Message 30767.  

It seems that one of my 690´s on the 3x690 rig had a leaked vapor chamber. Luckly enough, I was able to catch the temperature increase in the exctly moment and underclock it. Just ordered a Accelero cooler to this unit.
Retvari, a question: i can´t figure is for sure from the pics, but once in place, this card/cooler will use 3 bays right?

Yes. It's HUGE in every direction :). It's 5 cm taller and 2 cm longer than the card itself.
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Message 31026 - Posted: 25 Jun 2013, 20:38:19 UTC

Man, it seems a pain to assemble. When it was all ready, I figure that I didn´t have the little wrench to remove the original screws from the back of the 690. It´s a micro allen wrench? It´s so small that I can´t even see it right!
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Message 31031 - Posted: 25 Jun 2013, 22:39:05 UTC - in response to Message 31026.  

Man, it seems a pain to assemble.

It takes awhile. However I've made my job easier by using nail polish (enamel) instead of the insulating tapes.

When it was all ready, I figure that I didn´t have the little wrench to remove the original screws from the back of the 690. It´s a micro allen wrench?

No, it's a Torx (TX5, if I can recall it correctly, but I will check it tomorrow for you)

It´s so small that I can´t even see it right!

They are. I have reading glasses for that purpose :)
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Message 31045 - Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 23:10:17 UTC - in response to Message 31031.  
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LOL thanks mate. I will look for that wrench... I really need it to put my hands on the card again. In the meantime, its crunching at 915mhz, 0.975v, 64°C...
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Message 31122 - Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 8:01:19 UTC - in response to Message 31045.  

LOL thanks mate. I will look for that wrench...

It's a Torks for sure, the only question is its size. It could be a TX6, or a TX5. I've find my screwdriver set, and the separate scredriver I've bought for disassebling video cards (it's a TX6) but I didn't have time to check which one fits exacly in those screws. (I was busy selling one of my old MB+CPU, and buying a new one)
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