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Message 27062 - Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 15:26:01 UTC

Hi guys,

Just sent a good amount of WUs to the long queue. Credits will vary from 60000 to 70000. Thank all for your time!

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Message 27063 - Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 13:04:56 UTC - in response to Message 27062.  

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Message 27064 - Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 16:09:35 UTC - in response to Message 27063.  

It is actually the continuation of a system I sent last month (domain SH2), and worked quite well, but I need more data :)
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Message 27065 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 10:09:59 UTC

and we'll be happy to oblige :)


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Message 27066 - Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 11:39:49 UTC - in response to Message 27062.  
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Just sent a good amount of WUs to the long queue...

I've been fishing for these for nearly 3 days and have come up empty...<sniff, sniff> :'(
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Message 27080 - Posted: 16 Oct 2012, 18:56:27 UTC - in response to Message 27066.  

Just sent a good amount of WUs to the long queue...

I've been fishing for these for nearly 3 days and have come up empty...<sniff, sniff> :'(


Just caught my first one...... looks to be around 8 hours on my GTX670
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Message 27082 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 2:31:16 UTC - in response to Message 27080.  

Just caught my first one...... looks to be around 8 hours on my GTX670

I finally caught one for my GTX 570. It's in line behind a NATHAN that won't finish for about 8 hours, though.
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Message 27083 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 6:11:16 UTC
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Caught one too, (ala_structure_191-NOELIA_1CPU_sh2fragment-0-3-RND2901)

Should take about 10.5 hours, on a GTX 670

This WU is using 440mb memory, with 71% GPU usage, Windows 7 Ultimate
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Message 27084 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 7:10:50 UTC - in response to Message 27080.  

Just sent a good amount of WUs to the long queue...

I've been fishing for these for nearly 3 days and have come up empty...<sniff, sniff> :'(


Just caught my first one...... looks to be around 8 hours on my GTX670


Finished in 8.6 hours on my GTX670 and scored 114300, also used less CPU time!!!

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=5923417
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Message 27088 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 0:31:48 UTC - in response to Message 27084.  

Finished in 8.6 hours on my GTX670 and scored 114300...

About 11.6 hours for this one, 3761726, on my stock GTX 570. Good for 95,250. Crunching my second one now. :-)
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Message 27151 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 22:38:15 UTC

Hi there!
I'm crunching with the NVS 4200 of my laptop. It's not the newest GPU but I'd like to help...
I received one of this WU I think, the problem is that it says the remaining time is about 120h, so I'll not be able to return the WU before the deadline.
Is there anything I can do?

Thanks!
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Message 27154 - Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 10:18:09 UTC - in response to Message 27151.  
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Hello Zac: I think it best to cancel the task and downloads only short drives - ACEMD standard-which are also very valuable work.

GPUGRID requires high-level GPUs. Greetings.
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Message 27155 - Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 14:37:17 UTC - in response to Message 27154.  

Generally I thought BOINC downloaded work units based upon if it thinks you can finish it on time? Or is that something implemented server side? I only take a general interest in my work units once every couple of months. Hate to think people's cycles are being wasted because the clients are downloading more than they can chew.
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Message 27165 - Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 12:56:39 UTC - in response to Message 27151.  
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The Quadro NVS 4200M (GF119) only has 48 cuda cores (shaders), of which only 32 would be used (CC2.1). It's also GDDR3 and only 155GFlops peak, so I doubt that it would finish any task in time. I would not recommend using that GPU here. If you still want to use it I suggest you try another project (it might work on POEM).

PS. You get work so long as your GPU's Compute Capability is still accepted. So you won't get tasks on a CC1.1 card here, and for some projects CC1.2 is no longer supported. It's based on 'can it run the tasks' rather than how 'long they will take'/performance.
You might think it would be useful if a list of excluded cards was generated server side, based upon the inability to complete and report tasks on time. However, some cards work on one setup but not another, some cards are overclocked, some underclocked, some are DDR3, some are DDR5, some are on PCIE 1.1 boards and others on PCIE2 or PCIE3 boards, some are supported by fast processors and fast RAM, others not... So you can't easily stereotype all the cards, to work out if they are useful in advance.
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Message 27670 - Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 14:07:04 UTC - in response to Message 27165.  

Dear Noelia,

You may not have seen the topic in the "number crunching" section related to relatively frequent problems with some of your "NOELIA" wus presently running in the long queue.

Could you please advise ?

Thanks in advance.
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Message 27672 - Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 15:19:32 UTC

Dear volunteers,

Batch group "sh2forces" requires extensive CPU usage and that's why some of you have noticed a big slow down. Same problem as we were having with previous systems:
http://www.gpugrid.org/forum_thread.php?id=3116 but we won't send any of this kind anymore.
The group had 100 WUs, but it is aborted now.

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Message 27674 - Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 17:00:39 UTC - in response to Message 27672.  

Dear volunteers,

Batch group "sh2forces" requires extensive CPU usage and that's why some of you have noticed a big slow down. Same problem as we were having with previous systems:
http://www.gpugrid.org/forum_thread.php?id=3116 but we won't send any of this kind anymore.
The group had 100 WUs, but it is aborted now.

Noelia


Thanks a lot !
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Message 27682 - Posted: 13 Dec 2012, 0:05:49 UTC - in response to Message 27672.  

Dear volunteers,

Batch group "sh2forces" requires extensive CPU usage and that's why some of you have noticed a big slow down. Same problem as we were having with previous systems:
http://www.gpugrid.org/forum_thread.php?id=3116 but we won't send any of this kind anymore.
The group had 100 WUs, but it is aborted now.

Noelia

Does this mean we should abort these tasks?

I was sent two sh2forces tasks yesterday evening/overnight. They are now at >65% and 92%. Just under 2h left on one!

Anyway, I did some testing on them. To cut a long story short, the performance is directly limited by the tasks CPU requirement. A solution could be going multi-threaded (mt), running some of those CPU cycles on the GPU (if possible), or running multiple WU's on the same GPU.

Beta testing would be a good idea too!

The slowness isn't due to PCIE bandwidth, I tested at PCIE3.0 x16 and PCIE2.0 x8; no difference in performance.
It's also not a controller bottleneck, or too much memory being used.
It's just down to the CPU usage and CPU to GPU performance ratio. A single thread from a fast CPU isn't capable of supporting the requirements of a low to mid range GPU. Even a GTX460 supported by a highly overclocked i7 would not yield good GPU utilization:

By crunching fewer CPU tasks I was able to improve performance, somewhat.
(i7-3770K@4.2GHz HT on, 8GB DDR3-2133, SATA6 SSD, W7x64)

When CPU usage was at 98% (crunching CPU tasks on 6 threads + 2 GPU tasks)
GPU Load - GTX660Ti 7% to 10% - GTX470 10%
Mem Ctrl - GTX660Ti 3% - GTX470 2%

When CPU usage was at 46% (crunching CPU tasks on 2 threads + 2 GPU tasks)
GPU Load - GTX660Ti 9% to 12% - GTX470 11% to 15%
Mem Ctrl - GTX660Ti 4% - GTX470 3%

When CPU usage was at 21% (only crunching 2 GPU tasks)
GPU Load - GTX660Ti 12% to 14% - GTX470 15% to 17%
Mem Ctrl - GTX660Ti 5% - GTX470 3%

With HT off and CPU usage was at 43% (only crunching 2 GPU tasks)
GPU Load - GTX660Ti 13% - GTX470 17%
Mem Ctrl - GTX660Ti 5% - GTX470 4%

The GPU temperatures and fan speeds rose after freeing CPU cores and turning HT off (not that I would normally recommend turning it off). Even with such optimizations however the GTX660Ti was only using 35% of it's power consumption capabilities.
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Message 27683 - Posted: 13 Dec 2012, 0:43:52 UTC - in response to Message 27672.  

Batch group "sh2forces" requires extensive CPU usage and that's why some of you have noticed a big slow down. Same problem as we were having with previous systems:
http://www.gpugrid.org/forum_thread.php?id=3116 but we won't send any of this kind anymore.
The group had 100 WUs, but it is aborted now.

Strange.
Very strange.
You didn't said who aborted these workunits...
It seems that you didn't successfully aborted this batch, so the crunchers have do it one by one.
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Message 27694 - Posted: 13 Dec 2012, 23:00:58 UTC - in response to Message 27683.  

Noelia, If these work unites are important for your work I will crunch all 100 WUs "sh2forces" happily. Isn’t it about science? As I have written before, yes credits are important for me as well, but if everybody gets one or two of these slow not optimal WUs to crunch, it affects all and nobody gets really hurt credit wise.
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