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Message 25733 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 4:20:56 UTC
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Is it just me or is the cuda 4.2 WUs 30-40 percent faster than the 3.1s are.
It seems amazing the difference is so extreme.

Also, is it a good time now to get a 680 ? now that the project will support it ??
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Message 25734 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 8:13:41 UTC - in response to Message 25733.  
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Is it just me or is the cuda 4.2 WUs 30-40 percent faster than the 3.1s are.

It's much faster on every host.

It seems amazing the difference is so extreme.

It is amazing, but it will vary among different wourkunits.

Also, is it a good time now to get a 680 ? now that the project will support it ??

Definitely!
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Message 25735 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 10:11:34 UTC
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every host? i still get app 3.1 wus on the 285gtx O.o is it because cc1.3? or must i reattach?

on the 560ti i got 4.2 and i was supprised it done a short WU in 4 hours (before i think it was 5,5h?), so nice speed there ^^
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Message 25741 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 12:48:08 UTC - in response to Message 25735.  

The improvement is very noticeable on the normal length tasks, and certainly more than the expected 15% improvement. However it does vary considerably, from task to task!
I'll quote myself from here:

    BTW the performance improvement I'm seeing on my CC2.0 Fermi between running tasks on the CUDA4.2 and CUDA3.1 app varies from ~23% to ~56%

    IBUCH_3_affTRYP ~23% faster
    PAOLA_3EKO ~36% faster
    MJHARVEY_MJHXA1 ~56% faster


Different setups will have somewhat different performance improvements; GPU type/spec, CPU type (performance), free CPU count, RAM type... The more the app is optimized the greater the impact of the performance from other resources; the greater the potential for bottlenecks.

I expect similar improvements for the long app when it arrives.


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Message 25742 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 12:48:29 UTC - in response to Message 25735.  
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Hi: All tasks are downloaded 4.2 CUDA GTX295 mistake on my Ubuntu 12.04-64bit driver 295.59 the CUDA 3.1 are working perfectly.
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Message 25743 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 13:49:01 UTC - in response to Message 25742.  
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process exited with code 247 (0xf7, -9)

This might result from a missing/incompatible Library file. Check if there are any updates.

Is anyone else having this problem?

I know there are a few people with Kernal/driver mismatches:

process exited with code 255 (0xff, -1)
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Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 295.40,
but this NVIDIA driver component has version 295.53. Please make
sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components
have the same version.

Perhaps there is a general problem with CC1.3 cards and the 4.2app on Linux?
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Message 25745 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 14:17:51 UTC - in response to Message 25743.  

Or a problem in some Linux driver packages?

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Message 25749 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 15:43:16 UTC

Switched to cuda4.2 units for today.... so far 2 completed units and 3 have failed exit code - 98 (0x62)
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Message 25751 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 18:05:41 UTC - in response to Message 25749.  

If you updated the driver after starting a task, that task will probably fail.
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Message 25752 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 21:22:53 UTC - in response to Message 25751.  

If you updated the driver after starting a task, that task will probably fail.


Been running the updated driver for a couple of weeks and 3.1 tasks (long) have been running ok.

Now had 6 failures and 2 completed.

My crunchers will be going offline whilst I jet off for a family holiday. Will see how things run when I get back.
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Message 25753 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 22:25:54 UTC - in response to Message 25752.  
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Now had 6 failures and 2 completed.

The CUDA4.2 failures could be caused by overclocking adjusted for CUDA3.1 tasks.
My GTX 480s need 25mV more for crunching CUDA4.2 tasks without failures, also my GTX 590s had to be set to 625MHz instead of 725MHz (I don't want to raise their voltage).
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Message 25754 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 22:42:25 UTC - in response to Message 25753.  
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Hi, I reinstalled the Nvidia 295.59 driver without problem, the OS works perfectly and the GTX295 is two tasks normally CUDA 3.1.ACEMD2

We'll see if any task more CUDA 4.2.
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Message 25755 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 23:41:07 UTC - in response to Message 25753.  

Now had 6 failures and 2 completed.

The CUDA4.2 failures could be caused by overclocking adjusted for CUDA3.1 tasks.
My GTX 480s need 25mV more for crunching CUDA4.2 tasks without failures, also my GTX 590s had to be set to 625MHz instead of 725MHz (I don't want to raise their voltage).


Will try fiddling around with settings when I return from holiday.

If the long queue is switching to CUDA4.2 I'll try and get the cruncher stable on shorties first.
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Message 25757 - Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 0:10:57 UTC - in response to Message 25756.  

The problems can wait. Enjoy your holiday ;)
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Message 25764 - Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 18:11:18 UTC - in response to Message 25757.  

I still have errors in CUDA 4.2, Nvidia driver 302.17 installed new, not GTX295 OC.

CUDA 3.1 is working perfectly

Error: "process exited with code 247 (0xf7, -9)"
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Message 25765 - Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 19:59:57 UTC
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i am here with XP and 301.42, still getting errors with 2x 460 GTX.

Now its some new on cuda 4.2 PAOLA, a bluescreen, tell that:

nv4_disp

0x000000EA
0x89788770
0x89FC06C8
0xB84DBCBC
0x00000001

Could that say someting !?

Edit:

ok, raised the voltage by 25mV, now waiting and watching.

ok 30 minutes , and no error. yeepee !!!
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Message 25772 - Posted: 19 Jun 2012, 15:20:41 UTC

No one answered me for some days now, hope it was only a overreading ^^ Are the cuda 42 apps only for fermi&kepler, because i get only cuda31 apps (yes i tested short WUs) on my 285gtx or must i reattach this machine? (what i must time right because its a unattended machine)
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Message 25777 - Posted: 19 Jun 2012, 17:48:53 UTC - in response to Message 25772.  

You're running driver: 301.42, so this shouldn't be an issue. Maybe you selected one the queue which doesn't have the new app yet?

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Message 25778 - Posted: 19 Jun 2012, 18:21:53 UTC - in response to Message 25777.  

4.2 CUDA tasks keep getting error on my GTX295 Linux.

Can anyone confirm if they only work the FERMI and KEPLER ... is to avoid wasting time, yours and mine. Thank you.
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Message 25780 - Posted: 19 Jun 2012, 20:12:58 UTC
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I tried both long and short. So this shouldnt the problem. But ok it seems there are still some probs with cuda 42 apps when i read the threads and i need valid results not wasting time :) only wanted to try one if it works or not as info for the team.
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