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GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A very frequent checkpointing set in the boinc user preference will slow down the application (even by 50% more). New application version will fix this. GDF |
GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A very frequent checkpointing set in the boinc user preference will slow down the application (even by 50% more). New application version will fix this. Fixed by version 6.34 for Linux. GDF |
[XTBA>XTC] ZeuZSend message Joined: 15 Jul 08 Posts: 60 Credit: 108,384 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications
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Hi Where can we modify this (the frequency of the checkpoints) in the boinc user preference? I haven't found this option :/ I trie the new application (2.30) on windows and it seems to be similar as the 2.29 one Thank you for your involvement and your presence for this project :) |
UBT - NaRyanSend message Joined: 16 Jul 08 Posts: 68 Credit: 1,242,980 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Hi It's in Advanced, Preferences, Disk and Memory usage. "Write to disk at most every" xx "seconds" Mine is set to 60 seconds. How often is "frequent checkpointing" that causes the slowdown? Down with the Kredit Kops!!! |
[XTBA>XTC] ZeuZSend message Joined: 15 Jul 08 Posts: 60 Credit: 108,384 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications
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Ah, thanks UBT - NaRyan, mine is set to 60 sec too |
Krunchin-Keith [USA]Send message Joined: 17 May 07 Posts: 512 Credit: 111,288,061 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I beleive 60 is the default. I had mine bumped up to 300s/5m or 600s/10m depending on my venue. Been that way for a year or more. I've noticed no ill effects with using this time with any project, except to note, if you turn off computer or boinc when any app restarts you loose up to that much time depending on when the last checkpoint was, whereas with 60s you loose only 1 minute, if app checkpoints per preferences that is. But shutdowns happen not that much so it is a good compromise to save on disk writes and/or speed up app processing. --- GDF ? I've noticed an increase of time to process work between 6.28 and 6.29. 6.29 is taking another 10,000s/2.75h or so. We still get exact same credit so I'm guessing something has slowed down the app processing, but it appears across all 3 of my hosts so I doubt it is something I have changed as any changes on my end are usually not across all 3. Is this the checkpoint issue ? |
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Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 100 Credit: 21,848,502 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I've noticed an increase of time to process work between 6.28 and 6.29. 6.29 is taking another 10,000s/2.75h or so. We still get exact same credit so I'm guessing something has slowed down the app processing, but it appears across all 3 of my hosts so I doubt it is something I have changed as any changes on my end are usually not across all 3. Is this the checkpoint issue ?I've seen the same increase in processing time on Linux with apps 6.33 & 6.34, 8800GT ~45k -> ~57k seconds 8800GS ~49k -> ~78k seconds |
UBT - NaRyanSend message Joined: 16 Jul 08 Posts: 68 Credit: 1,242,980 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Yeah noticing the same slow down here on Linux also. It's only been going for 6 hours, however normaly 6 hours is 50% complete, at the moment it's at 40% complete. At this rate it's going to workout taking nearly as long as the Windows version does :( Also since the new windows app was released, all workunits have started to crash once again for me on windows :( Down with the Kredit Kops!!! |
koschiSend message Joined: 14 Aug 08 Posts: 127 Credit: 913,858,161 RAC: 18 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Hi, my first work unit with the new App is done, and I would like to have the old one back, please... Instead of 48.000 seconds I need 75.000 seconds to finish one unit now. This is 27.000 seconds more! Nothing except the app changed on my side, system wasn't updated or rebooted. How come that there is such a dramatic increase? http://www.ps3grid.net/results.php?hostid=6998 Was that one maybe a special unit which is supposed to take that long? |
UBT - NaRyanSend message Joined: 16 Jul 08 Posts: 68 Credit: 1,242,980 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Hi, my first work unit with the new App is done, and I would like to have the old one back, please... Would be nice, as an increase from 11 hours 45 minutes, to just over 15 hours (for me), ain't nice from an app that was supposed to have sped things up (with checkpointing) And I still cannot get a workunit to run for more than a few seconds on my Win XP x64 system, since the new windows app was released..... All fail with the same error: 3 (0x3) "<core_client_version>6.3.8</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> The system cannot find the path specified. (0x3) - exit code 3 (0x3) </message> <stderr_txt> # Device 0: "GeForce 8800 GTX"; Clock rate: 1350000 kilohertz MDIO ERROR: cannot open file "restart.coor" Cuda error: Kernel [kick_drift_kernel] failed in file 'step.cu' in line 48 : the launch timed out and was terminated. Assertion failed: 0, file step.cu, line 48 This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more information. </stderr_txt> ]]>" Down with the Kredit Kops!!! |
GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Clearly, the problem was not just checkpointing. Even my machine is slower. I know at least a couple of things that we have changed that could slow it down, but if it is the extra debugging code, you need to stand it for a little while. New application is coming up. gdf |
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Send message Joined: 15 Aug 08 Posts: 9 Credit: 1,973,745 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Hi, my first work unit with the new App is done, and I would like to have the old one back, please... i get the same error. i use drivers 177.35 with boinc 6.3.8 on win xp 32b. |
GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Good news, the slowness problem is not in the debugging code but a flag left on while debugging which should not be on. Application 6.36 for Linux will fix it. Coming up. gdf |
koschiSend message Joined: 14 Aug 08 Posts: 127 Credit: 913,858,161 RAC: 18 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Very good, I'm really looking forward to that release :-D Though it seems not all crunchers where effected by the slowness of 6.34, one user from our team reports that he crunched 2 WUs with 6.34 at the same speed as with the older apps... |
GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Very good, I'm really looking forward to that release :-D Application 6.37 out. I expect that once we upload also the new Windows application, Linux and Windows will have the same speed. It may be convenient to abort new wu which you have already if they start with the old application. gdf |
UBT - NaRyanSend message Joined: 16 Jul 08 Posts: 68 Credit: 1,242,980 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Application 6.37 out. I expect that once we upload also the new Windows application, Linux and Windows will have the same speed. It may be convenient to abort new wu which you have already if they start with the old application. The computer that has the 8800GTX and is running Linux is now crashing with in a few seconds. Always with the error "<core_client_version>6.3.8</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> process exited with code 1 (0x1, -255) </message> <stderr_txt> # Using CUDA device 0 # Device 0: "GeForce 8800 GTX" # Clock rate: 1350000 kilohertz Cuda error: Kernel [reduce4_kernel] failed in file 'reduction.cu' in line 123 : the launch timed out and was terminated. </stderr_txt> ]]>" That's using the 173.14.12 drivers (installed using Envy), I have them installed on the system that has the 2 8800GT's in it and it is working fine (on 1 card for the moment) I see that driver 177.67 is listed on the Nvidia get cuda page for linux x64, should I try them instead? Down with the Kredit Kops!!! |
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Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 100 Credit: 21,848,502 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Application 6.37 out. 6.37 is still slow for me :( |
koschiSend message Joined: 14 Aug 08 Posts: 127 Credit: 913,858,161 RAC: 18 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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http://www.ps3grid.net/show_user.php?userid=5044 6.25 -> 48.000s 6.34 -> 74.500s 6.37 -> 64.500s Where has the speed gone? The computer of my team mate: 6.33 -> 46.767s - 48.000s 6.34 -> 49.000s no Result for 6.37 yet So I wonder how his 6.25 would have looked like, and also why he is 25.000 seconds faster on 6.34 with the only difference being 16 shaders and 125MHz shader clock more... |
UBT - NaRyanSend message Joined: 16 Jul 08 Posts: 68 Credit: 1,242,980 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Application 6.37 out. Weird 6.37 is back to normal speed for me. 6.34 took around 54,434.09 Seconds 6.37 took 42,579.39 Seconds Down with the Kredit Kops!!! |
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