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Message 24620 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 19:01:01 UTC
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I expect a cut down version of the GTX680 to arrive, probably a GTX670 and ~20% slower (192 less shaders). A GTX660Ti could possibly turn up too (384 fewer shaders than a GTX680).

While I suppose a GTX690 (dual GTX680) could arrive, I'm not so sure it's going to happen just yet.

Two smaller OEM cards have already arrived, both GT 640's (28nm, GK107). One is a GDDR5 version and the other uses DDR3.

I see the manufacturers have started launching non-reference GTX680 designs.
Galaxy is launching a non-reference, full GTX680 Kepler,


Typically, these come with redesigned boards, higher stock clocks, dual or triple fans, and some contain additional functionality (support for more monitors, more memory...). While 1202/1267MHz, for example, is a nice boost (19%) it's worth noting that some such cards need two 8-pin power connectors to power them.
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Message 24632 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 3:50:21 UTC

690 was just "released". Shown anyway in China. Find it weird that they release this card, when they can't even keep up with supplies for 680. Figure this will be more of a paper release, like the 680 ;)
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Message 24634 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 9:03:31 UTC - in response to Message 24632.  

Find it weird that they release this card, when they can't even keep up with supplies for 680

1st prestige, 2nd: at double the price of a GTX680 the win margin is probably comparable, so they don't care whether they sell 2 GTX680 or one GTX690.

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Message 24642 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 17:20:06 UTC - in response to Message 24634.  
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well, GTX-690 is already official: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/article-keynote/

as expected, 2 GK-104 on a single board with slightly reduced clocks..
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Message 24652 - Posted: 30 Apr 2012, 9:05:15 UTC - in response to Message 24642.  

So the GTX690 is being released on the 3rd May.

Price tag aside, I'm quite impressed with this.
Firstly, I wasn't expecting it just as soon, given the GPU shortages. This is the first time (in recent years anyway) that NVidia has released a dual GPU in a series ahead of AMD/ATI.

Two hardware specs are of obvious interest:
The Power requirement is only 300W. Considering a GTX590 requires 375W (TDP) that's a sizable drop. This leaves the door open for OC'ing and might mean there is less chance of cooking the motherboard.
The other interesting thing is the GPU frequency, relative to the GTX680. Both cores are at ~91% of a GTX680. A GTX590's cores were only 78% of a reference GTX580 - which made it more like two GTX570's in terms of performance.
This certainly looks like a good replacement for the GTX590 (if you don't need FP64).

There seems to be a noticeable improvement in the basic GPU design, but I have not yet seen a review of actual performance (noise, heat, temps).
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Message 24655 - Posted: 30 Apr 2012, 16:44:51 UTC - in response to Message 24652.  
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OMFG - ROTFASTC!!

http://www.techpowerup.com/165149/A-Crate-at-TechPowerUp-s-Doorstep.html

brilliant marketing gag to send a crate in advance, and labeling the box 0b1010110010 is plain simple as geeky as you can go. ;)
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Message 24660 - Posted: 30 Apr 2012, 19:08:39 UTC

Pretty funny, but me thinks marketing has a little too much time on their hands

It is incredible looking though. Too bad it sits inside a case. Again, marketing team did a GREAT job.
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Message 24661 - Posted: 30 Apr 2012, 20:39:26 UTC - in response to Message 24660.  

It is incredible looking though. Too bad it sits inside a case. Again, marketing team did a GREAT job.


design and finish are a real statement. never seen a GPU looking that evil. ;)

i'm sure gaming-performance will be awesome. that's the goal for this thing.

bad news: those freaky-design overclocking suppliers will have a hard time now, and most of all, team red has lost this one.


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Message 24683 - Posted: 2 May 2012, 18:22:36 UTC

Hi, A simple and direct question.

The GTX680(or future GTX690)work well and without problems GPUGRID ...? Thanks
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Message 24715 - Posted: 4 May 2012, 14:15:15 UTC

So apparently Newegg decided to sell the 690 for $1200 ($200 over EVGA price on their website) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130781
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Message 24727 - Posted: 4 May 2012, 21:16:59 UTC - in response to Message 24683.  

The GTX680(or future GTX690)work well and without problems GPUGRID ...? Thanks

As far as I know: the new app looks good, but is not officially released yet.

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Message 24744 - Posted: 5 May 2012, 15:05:21 UTC

Well the 670 is "basically" the same as the 680, but I would ASSUME will be priced around $400, http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4710/nvidia_geforce_gtx_670_2gb_video_card_performance_preview/index1.html
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Message 24748 - Posted: 5 May 2012, 17:36:03 UTC - in response to Message 24744.  

It's the same chip with similar clocks, but less shaders active -> less performance.

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Message 24749 - Posted: 5 May 2012, 18:09:41 UTC

Not like difference.between 580 ->570 though. Rather small, which I guess is a good thing.
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Message 24759 - Posted: 6 May 2012, 11:21:27 UTC - in response to Message 24749.  
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Quite the opposite actually!

A GTX570 was ~89% as fast as a GTX580.

The difference in terms of performance between the GTX670 and GTX680 will be ~20% :
1344/1536 shaders * 915/1006 MHz = 0.796 (~80%).

Assumes performance can be calculated in the same way as previous generations...

The GTX580 only had 512 shaders, so disabling just 32 was not a lot.
The GTX680 has three times the shaders (1536), but disabling 192 is relatively twice as much; 32*3 would only be 96.

So I'm hoping for a price closer to £300. When you consider that the HD7970 presently costs ~£370 and the HD7950 can be purchased for as little as £299, the GTX670 is likely to come in at around £330. While this is similar to original GTX470 and GTX570 prices, it would be better value at £300 to £320.
To begin with the lack of supplies will justify a £330 price tag, but unless it beats an HD7970 in most games (unlikely) anything more than £330 would be a rip-off - when it does turn up the HD7950 and HD7970 prices are likely to fall again.

At present most UK suppliers don't have any GTX680's, and are listing them as £400 to £420 (stock delayed, 3-4 weeks, down to 4days).
I did see a GTX690 at £880 (5-7days), but at that price what you save in terms of performance per Watt would be lost in the original price tag.

Anyway, £400 * 0.8 = £320.
When the GTX670 does arrive, I would not expect its price to fall for a couple of months, or at least until GTX660's turn up (two of which may or more likely may not be a viable alternative).
No idea when AMD/ATI will have their next refresh, but it's likely to be a while (few months), and might depend more on the new memory than anything.
If anything it will probably be competition between the rival manufacturers that drives prices down (and up), with various bespoke implementations.
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Message 24761 - Posted: 6 May 2012, 13:38:31 UTC

Gaming performance though doesn't seem to make much difference. But your math is always better than mine lol, so would it be "safe" to say a 670>580 here? Based on the #'s?
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Message 24762 - Posted: 6 May 2012, 14:08:08 UTC - in response to Message 24761.  

so would it be "safe" to say a 670>580 here? Based on the #'s?

They'll be close and püower consumption of the newcomer will obviously be better. Anything more specific is just a guess, IMO, until we've got the specs officially.

@SK: AMD could give us a 1.5 GB HD7950 to put more pressure on the GTX670.

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Message 24763 - Posted: 6 May 2012, 20:27:08 UTC
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Here come the 670's

http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?action=enter&thispage=011004001505_BPF8397P.shtml&order_id=!ORDERID!

http://www.overclock.net/t/1251038/wccf-msi-geforce-gtx-670-oc-edition-spotted-in-the-wild

With this being the most interesting an in-depth, apparently someone in Australia got their hands on one already

http://www.overclock.net/t/1253432/gigabyte-gtx-670-oc-version-hands-on

From all 30 pages of posts, it appears the 670 can OC MUCH higher, due to the fact that it has 1 SMX disabled. This guy was getting like 1300MHz, and the voltage was still locked at 1.175 Don't know how this will translate to here, but found it VERY interesting.

For $400, it will be interesting to see what happens.
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Message 24764 - Posted: 6 May 2012, 20:27:48 UTC - in response to Message 24762.  
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A 1.5GB HD7950 would be a good card to throw into the mix. Price likely to be ~£250 to £280, so very competitive. It would also go some way to filling the gap between the HD7950 and HD7870, and compete against any forthcoming GTX 660Ti/660 which are anticipated to arrive with 1.5GB.

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