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Sweet...thanks skgiven!

Thanks for the reply. I see a problem for badge-chasers like me. How do we make sure we maximise our chance to win? Rather than a choice for long/short, we need sub-project selections.

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Skgiven's guesses of the short/long tasks are rather accurate.
Our usage of either of these is primarily based on the experiment/researcher needs.

Now, regarding zombie67 concerns about sub-project selection, I can say that we will NOT implement it. Unlike other DC projects that do so trough the differnet apps they deploy, GPUGRID runs a single app for all of its WU types (only splitted in two weight categories—short/long). Moreover, sub-project selection would result in a competition for resources between GPUGRID scientists and we don't want that, we are single research group with common goals.

The most you can do is to use short/long WU to indirectly select between experiements (i.e. HIV is only running on short)...

Finally, and adding up on Toni's words, let me remark the fact that as scientists our goal is to get our work published. Publications are the measure of performance and success and they are the means to communicate our findings and developments. Publication Badges are designed to acknowledge your contribution to the achievement of these goals. In fact, they will be linked to each and every one of the publications done so far using GPUGRID. AFAIK and correct me if I am wrong but, this is a unique feature in the DC community that I am sure you will appreciate.

Cheers,
i

I'm just going to venture a guess that Stoneageman is going to have a lot of sapphire badges. O_o

Are the water badges retroactive? Or will they only be for publications going forward from the implementation of this badge system?

One amino badge for contribution (total credit based), and one water badge per published project - implemented retrospectively (for existing completed work). For existing projects, the badges will be added when the projects finish and the research is published.

Badges will look like this

You can read about the Badges in this thread and in the Volunteers page.

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Well that's great recordkeeping as far as who's contributed what to each publication. It sounds like you've been planning for this badge system for awhile now.

Where will these badges appear (other than BOK's site)?

Early next week badges will appear beneath your RAC, like this:

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Posts: 9
Credit: 59,850,788
RAC: 577,588



Publications

Ah that was the answere i was looking for, thx :)

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#AA - Milestone (in Million credits)
Gly 0.5
Ala 1
Ser 5
Pro 10
Val 25
Thr 50
Cys 100
Ile 150*
Leu 200*
Asn 250
Asp 300
Gln 400*
Lys 500*
Glu 750
Met 1,000
His 1,500
Phe 2,000
Arg 3,000
Tyr 5,000
Trp 10,000

I think the proper order is:

Gly 0.5
Ala 1
Ser 5
Pro 10
Val 25
Thr 50
Cys 100
Leu 150*
Ile 200*
Asn 250
Asp 300
Lys 400*
Gln 500*
Glu 750
Met 1,000
His 1,500
Phe 2,000
Arg 3,000
Tyr 5,000
Trp 10,000

I think the proper order is:
...
Leu 150*
Ile 200*
...
Lys 400*
Gln 500*
...

Mmmm not really... Ile/Leu are the same (131.17 Da) but Gln/Lys are 146.14/146.19 Da...
But anyway, it's just to define an order.

Thanks!

There are all sorts of grouping arguments that could have led to many different orderings. For example, groups (small, nucleophilic, hydrophobic, aromatic, acidic, amides, basic), fluorescence, pKa, abundance, their codon letters/weights, alphabetical names, hydropathy index, wet and/or dry weight... Many possibilities were considered, as was the αα count itself (20, 21, 22, numerous non-standard variants)!

IIRC the system chosen was entirely based on 'dry' molecular weight, for which Leucine and Isoleucine have an identical molecular weight (molar mass) of 113.16 Dalton - so their order is moot. I might have went with Leucine and then Isoleucine too, but it’s of little importance to the badge system. Maybe this was just done alphabetically (I,L)? Gln is slightly lighter than Lys – 128.14 and 128.17 respectively.

Are the water badges retroactive?

- edit Yes, retroactive/applied retrospectively for completed work.

It sounds like you've been planning for this badge system for awhile now.

There was a lot to consider and decide upon before implementing anything, and the site and server code had to be updated and tested first.

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I think the proper order is:
...
Leu 150*
Ile 200*
...
Lys 400*
Gln 500*
...

Mmmm not really... Ile/Leu are the same (131.17 Da) but Gln/Lys are 146.14/146.19 Da...
But anyway, it's just to define an order.

Thanks!

Okay, I was just going by the way they were pictured ... :)

Are the water badges retroactive?

No, and neither are the amino acids, though they could be; you can use heavy αα's as a biological tracking technique.

Indeed! They are! We will assign water badges per past projects too.
Amino-acid badges will be on current total credits too.

cheers
i

Yeah he said they were retroactive, and then contradicted his earlier response. I see now that they do give credit for previous work. Outstanding! I wish I'd started this project earlier, I'm missing so many badges.

Sorry, was in a rush and misread as 'radioactive'! Thought someone was being funny and referring to the water molecule colours; tritium, tritium... Hence the research tool tangent.

Corrected below and definitely retroactive.

Yeah, I'm also missing a few badges - but I never learn.
This morning I set one of my profiles to crunch on both long and short tasks, so as not to miss out on any more.

Just in case somebody doesn't notice, move your mouse over the badges...

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Yeah well, it happens. I know, trust me. ^^

I just turned off short runs because of the ridiculously low credits I was getting on some of the units. Some were running as long as the long runs, and giving 25-30% of the credit. I'm sure you've already heard that before. I want to contribute to all of the subprojects without feeling like I'm being shorted. Is there anything to be done about this?

Of course; you could make a suggestion in the Wish list. Add your reasons.

Presently there is at least one project that only uses short tasks, perhaps more than one project. Tasks for new projects will probably be available in long and short lengths (steps).

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I'm still wondering, which of the amino acids resembles Chuck Norris the most? :)
Good work! It's a very clever badge system.

I'm still wondering, which of the amino acids resembles Chuck Norris the most? :)

;)

*atomrofl*

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