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Why are the IBUCH work units so much slower (50% longer, often more) than the KASHIF and GIANNI units? |
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More CPU-bound scripting operations are performed on the IBUCH tasks. This can't be stopped mid-run/experiment but in the future such scripting will be cut down. |
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Interesting! On a 480 card the IBUCH units use about 30% of the card capacity, while the other units use about 50%, by reducing the scripting operations across the board, would that increase speed (reducing time) for all the units? |
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On multi GPU systems I think so, but it depends on the number of cards and CPU cores; I have 3 IBUCH tasks running and 1 GIANNI_DHFR task running - all 4 GPUs are running at between 66% and 70% GPU Utilization. The last GIANNI_DHFR task ran at over 80% when paired with 2 KASHIF and 1 IBUCH. If I stop crunching 1 IBUCH task the utilization rises to 72% for the other IBUCH tasks and 80% for the GIANNI_DHFR. When I free up another IBUCH task the GIANNI_DHFR went up to 85% and the IBUCH task rose slightly to 75%. Phenom II quad, 4GB RAM, Vista, swan_sync=0, no CPU tasks running. This would not be the case on your Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T, so long as you did not use CPU cores for crunching. In fact you could probably use 3 without any issues. |
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My last two IBUCH-wu's finished with success. But the output file shows an entry MDIO ERROR: cannot open file "restart.coor" One of them is http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=3341638 I've seen that I cannot shut down my PC; the wu starts from beginning. Is that correct? Alexander |
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My last two IBUCH-wu's finished with success. But the output file shows an entry This MDIO error message appears in every task. I guess this is not a real error. One of them is http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=3341638 I can shut down my PC, next time the WU's processing will start from the last checkpoint. It's loosing only a cople of minutes calculating time. If your WU starts from the beginning, there is some problem with your BOINC client installation. (I guess that Win 7's User Access Control interfere with the BOINC client) |
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Just finished several IBUCH long WU on both of my computers. I have pretty fast cards, a 285 and 480, and they took about 16 hours to complete these units, with a lot of scripting operations. The main issue is, if you download 2 of these units back to back on a computer with a single card or 3 units with 2 cards, that the completion time of 16 hours and 16 hours is greater than 24 hours, so there goes the 50% bonus for the second unit. If the scripting was reduced or no back to back downloads than this would not be an issue. I don't usually complain about something this trivial, but I think this should be addressed. |
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I have already suggested that people reduce their cach, even for Fermi crunchers. My recommended GPUGrid cache settings are between 0.10 and 0.01 days, rather than the Boinc default of 0.25 or 0.50 days.
From the drop down menu click Advanced and Preferences to open the Boinc Manager Preferences window. Click the network usage tab, and set the [b]additional work buffer[b] to between 0.10 and 0.01.
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I did that Swan_Sync=0 on both my computers, and it looks like it improved the performance (reduced completion time) by an average of at least 20%. The IBUCH long WU were completed, on average, about 2 to 3 hours faster from about 16 hours to about 13 to 14 hours. The GPU usage, on the 480 card on windows 7, increased to over 40% from about 30% for an IBUCH long unit. On the other units, on the same machine, usage increased to almost 70% from 50%. These are the results that were produced on my computers. The other thing that I didn't see mentioned was, if you have a multiprocessor system, under bionic manager version 6.10.58, you have to go the advanced, than preferences, than processor usage, the "On multiprocessor system use at most _____ % of the processor" cannot be 100%. If you have a dual processor with one video card, set it to 50% or 6 processors with 2 video cards, set it to 66.67%, or else the system will run 2 CPU jobs on one processor or 6 CPU jobs on 4 processors. It will do all those CPU jobs, without any errors (my machines did), but the completion times for them will be long. Thank you for your advice. |
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