same here (except I got 1x GTX470)

As the current one on my computer is absolutely not runnable, probably on any machine, is there any hope to get a normal one if I abort it or will I get again the unusable rubbish I just got?

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@Sänger: well.. let's just say it's tradition. for most problems hard- and software go hand in hand, so in the end most stuff ended up being posted here. I guess that's why something "important for everyone" gets posted here rather than over there. Not exactly correct, though.

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If your p11-IBUCH_1_opt01_pYEEI_101027-3-20-RND2304 task is not running just abort it, but let it try to run for a few minutes and please post some details.

Thanks,

It was running for 20h and was still at 11%, no f***ing way to get it done in time.
It was all fine with 6.04, it's just the 6.12 that's behaving in this disgusting way. And as I don't do Betas, it's probably the same for all (Linux-?)users. Wasn't this tested in some Beta-set-up?

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Looks like the techs moved the Betas to Live too soon, unless opt represents some sort of test WU.

Perhaps its more of an issue with IBUCH tasks than others, but I would suggest you abort it.

- I see you did. I'm worried that the next one will not be any better.

How is it going with the cuda3.1 beta versions?

gdf
PS: This thread is for the new applications.

The new live 6.12 version is not an improvement on my GT240 (GT215/40nm):
Longer runtime and using more cpu-time:

3234682 2040830 3 Nov 2010 19:49:05 UTC 4 Nov 2010 13:41:31 UTC Completed and validated 63,919.69 21,131.15 7,079.92 10,619.87 ACEMD2: GPU molecular dynamics v6.12 (cuda)
3228593 2037157 2 Nov 2010 15:52:37 UTC 3 Nov 2010 10:02:11 UTC Completed and validated 58,862.93 16,774.91 7,079.92 10,619.87 Not in DB <=== (v6.05)

I didn't change driver (197.13), so only change in application could cause this.
I saved the older acemd2_6.05_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe and will try to use that with an app_info.xml if this decrease in performance will not be repaired.

I saved the older acemd2_6.05_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe and will try to use that with an app_info.xml if this decrease in performance will not be repaired.

I havn't saved it anywhere, there usually is no need to do so if you don't do Beta-stuff.
Is the right one the acemd2_6.04_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__cuda available at http://www.gpugrid.net/download/?
The current one is at 0.77% after 1h, so I will abort it as well before too much GPU-time is wasted and rejoin DNETC again, although I don't like that science.

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GDF wrote:

PS: This thread is for the new applications.

ExtraTerrestrial Apes wrote:

@Sänger: well.. let's just say it's tradition. for most problems hard- and software go hand in hand, so in the end most stuff ended up being posted here.

So can I post BOINC tips here, or should I start a new thread? (Answer tomorrow, approaching bedtime here) ;-)

Sänger wrote:

Is the right one the acemd2_6.04_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__cuda available at http://www.gpugrid.net/download/?

I don't know. The version I mentioned was for Windows.

Yet another example that the latest version is slower:

p16-IBUCH_11_PQpYEEIPI_101019-9-40-RND7287_0 2044054 4 Nov 2010 14:27:17 UTC 5 Nov 2010 08:56:36 UTC Completed and validated 66,265.58 21,205.96 7,645.29 11,467.93 ACEMD2: GPU molecular dynamics v6.12 (cuda)
p47-IBUCH_30_PQpYEEIPI_101019-9-40-RND4304_1 2033762 1 Nov 2010 22:56:28 UTC 2 Nov 2010 15:52:37 UTC Completed and validated 59,713.49 17,081.64 7,645.29 11,467.93 Not in DB

I am going to check it locally as well.

gdf

Sänger wrote:

Is the right one the acemd2_6.04_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__cuda available at http://www.gpugrid.net/download/?

I don't know. The version I mentioned was for Windows.

Yet another example that the latest version is slower:

p16-IBUCH_11_PQpYEEIPI_101019-9-40-RND7287_0 2044054 4 Nov 2010 14:27:17 UTC 5 Nov 2010 08:56:36 UTC Completed and validated 66,265.58 21,205.96 7,645.29 11,467.93 ACEMD2: GPU molecular dynamics v6.12 (cuda)
p47-IBUCH_30_PQpYEEIPI_101019-9-40-RND4304_1 2033762 1 Nov 2010 22:56:28 UTC 2 Nov 2010 15:52:37 UTC Completed and validated 59,713.49 17,081.64 7,645.29 11,467.93 Not in DB

What about the cuda3.1 app in beta now?
gdf

So can I post BOINC tips here, or should I start a new thread? (Answer tomorrow, approaching bedtime here)

Richard, please start a new thread for Boinc Tips in the Number Crunching area.

I created a general discussion thread for Boinc Testing (Number Crunching) and moved the relevant threads from here into it. Such a discussion deserves its own thread and your contribution is much appreciated, so do continue there.

Thanks,

What about the cuda3.1 app in beta now?
gdf

GPUGRID Message from server: Fermi-class GPU not supported by cuda2.2

What about the cuda3.1 app in beta now?
gdf

GPUGRID Message from server: Fermi-class GPU not supported by cuda2.2

Please see Message 19234 in the server area. It's an inappropriate BOINC server response to a request for CPU work, not available from this project.

It looks like I did not manage to pick up any of the 36 Betas.

We use to be able to select which ACEMD apps to crunch, and if I remember correctly, be able to crunch Betas only by unchecking both ACEMD apps.

Good luck,

Sänger wrote:

Is the right one the acemd2_6.04_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__cuda available at http://www.gpugrid.net/download/?

I don't know. The version I mentioned was for Windows.

Yep, yours was windows, mine linux, I just wanted to know whether those are the right ones in that place.

And I'd like to have an app-info.xml posted by someone here, as I'm no programmer and I don't know what has to be included to get the good app running proper and not be replaced by 6.12.

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If I look at my aborted WUs, and have a peek at my actual running one, it seems that it is behaving now as it proclaims, i.e. doesn't use any CPU, but unfortunately that doesn't look like a good set-up, as I won't finish it in time.

The CPU-time is next to 0 compared to run-time, and the CPU-use in the system monitor in my Linux is as well 0% (+4% for Xorg), the other parallel WUs on the CPU get the right percentage.

OK, I've asked for something like that in some older posts, but as it seems to be a not-working set-up, I think my second proposal, taking officially a whole CPU, would be better.

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taking officially a whole CPU, would be better.

Whenever this is done (on purpose or not) people get mad at the devs, no matter the actual GPU-Grid application performance. So far the solution has been to let power users configure full throttle use by creating the environment variable (don't know where to do this in linux) "SWAN_SYNC" and setting its value to 0. That might restore your speed.

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Here I found an old app_info.xml from Collatz (which imho has even more useless science than DNETC):

<app_info>
<app>
<name>collatz</name>
<user_friendly_name>collatz</user_friendly_name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>collatz_2.02_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__cuda22</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libcudart.so.2</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>collatz</app_name>
<version_num>202</version_num>
<flops>1.0e11</flops>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>1.0</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>collatz_2.02_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__cuda22</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libcudart.so.2</file_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

If I replace all stuff collatz-related and put in some GPUGrid stuff, i.e. replace the following, will it work?

Would look like this:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>GPUGrid</name>
<user_friendly_name>GPUGrid</user_friendly_name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>acemd2_6.04_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__cuda</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libcudart.so.2</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>GPUGrid</app_name>
<version_num>604</version_num>
<flops>1.0e11</flops>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>1.0</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>acemd2_6.04_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__cuda</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libcudart.so.2</file_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

I won't test it before someone with more insight in such stuff says something about it, because I simply changed some names and kept things that looked kind of universal.

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