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Message 16790 - Posted: 3 May 2010, 19:22:10 UTC - in response to Message 16787.  
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Sorry Ton, just checking the obvious! If there are no other Betas it would make good sense to check for Fermi.

Tried the GTX470 on XP but any drivers I tried kept blue screening the system. It was an old system so I put it in another W7 system (Will try XP again later).
Installed the latest Beta driver (19775).
Stayed away from the Asus-ware this time.
GPUZ (0.4.2) says GPU 608MHz, RAM 837MHz, Shaders 1215MHz.
Swan_sync set to zero.

Boinc says,
03/05/2010 19:41:17 NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 470 (driver version 19775, CUDA version 3000, compute capability 2.0, 1248MB, 181 GFLOPS peak)

Eventually picked up a Beta Fermi task...
17min 37sec to run,
and Clock rate: 0.81 GHz, again!

1,057.33 904.20 187.28 280.92 ACEMD beta version v6.23 (cuda30)

Set Power management to maximun performance, restarted Boinc (6.10.43).

Next task set took 960sec (16min)

Changed settings using EVGA Precision to core1800 shaders1300 Ram 650. Still have no faith in these readings.

Restarted Boinc,
03/05/2010 20:03:23 NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 470 (driver version 19775, CUDA version 3000, compute capability 2.0, 1248MB, 291 GFLOPS peak)

Ran another Beta. EVGA says 49 to 50% GPU usage GPUZ says 50% too!

Task took about 16min 30sec. So, basically the EVGA changes did nothing!

Boinc 6.10.51 says,
03/05/2010 20:40:10 NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 470 (driver version 19775, CUDA version 3000, compute capability 2.0, 1248MB, 1165 GFLOPS peak)

Ended up installing the Asus SmartDoctor to try and get things working normally. GPUZ says GPU 707, Mem 906, Shaders 1414
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Message 16792 - Posted: 3 May 2010, 20:45:30 UTC - in response to Message 16790.  

I have Precision 1.9.2 and it reports for my 480 correctly.

When I look at the graphs it shows...
Core = 701
Shader = 1401
Memory = 1850

When I look at the sliders they say
Processor Clock = 1401 (shaders)
Memory Clock = 1850

IIRC you can only download this version from EVGA you have registered one of their 470s or 480s. I have not seen it floating out and about the internet yet ... doesn't mean it's not there, I just have not seen it.
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Message 16793 - Posted: 3 May 2010, 21:07:25 UTC - in response to Message 16792.  

I'm stuck using 1.9.1 - and it was released in Jan!

It says,
Core Clock 1851 - that sounds like the shaders
Shader Clock 1300 - sounds like RAM
Memory Clock 650 - sounds like Core

A right mess.
At the time being these Asus cards look bad!
I will try it in another XP system tomorrow, and if its still half speed it will get RTM'd.
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Message 16804 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 11:47:36 UTC
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core_client_version>6.10.51</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
# Using device 0
# There is 1 device supporting CUDA
# Device 0: "GeForce GTX 480"
# Clock rate: 1.40 GHz
# Total amount of global memory: 1610153984 bytes
# Number of multiprocessors: 15
# Number of cores: 120
MDIO ERROR: cannot open file "restart.coor"
# Time per step (avg over 50000 steps): 6.416 ms
# Approximate elapsed time for entire WU: 320.780 s
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt

My first beta-wu #83 using boinc 06.10.51 with driver 197.75 in 5 min 24 secs

Correct?
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Message 16806 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 12:05:19 UTC

Hello, Just want to post my experience running a GTX 480.

There seems to be very little Beta work units for the new fermi GPUs to crunch... kept getting "No work is available for ACEMD beta version" after around 20 completed WUs per day, and that is with 8~minute per WU.

With unaltered settings from my account, I receive 2 WUs downloaded, crunching one with another standing by. After a few completed and uploaded WU requesting additional WUs is declined even though I have only one WU downloaded and crunching, with none waiting, resulting in down time waiting for the completed WU to be uploaded and another downloaded.

Finally I have noticed that quite frequently WUs only from GPUGRID are having trouble being downloaded to my PC. They get bogged down to around 2kb/s, basically having to cancel the download when I see it and request another, but more often then not are refused, and have to wait a while whilst my GPU lies idle.

This is my first foray into GPUGRID, and would like some thoughts on the above issues.
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Message 16807 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 12:09:52 UTC - in response to Message 16806.  

I think they are a bit behind in creating beta work units for the Fermi cards. There's not much we can do but wait. I'm only crunching GPUGrid about 8 hours a day b/c of lack of beta work units.
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Message 16808 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 12:11:23 UTC

EVGA Precision 1.9.3 is now available for download to the public and works with Fermi.

http://www.evga.com/precision/
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Message 16809 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 12:45:52 UTC - in response to Message 16808.  

Using EVGA Precision 1.9.3,
I get nothing for Core Clock on the right hand part - no reading at all, but I can change this a bit using ASUS Smart Doctor and see it on the left hand pane.

I can move the shaders and the memory clock using EVGA Precision (not 100% sure what they should be)!

What are your settings at?

My GTX470 core is 704 (default is 608)
memory is 1751 (915 to 1945 range)
Shader are 1407 (1675 to 2680 range)

Thanks,
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Message 16810 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 12:46:19 UTC - in response to Message 16808.  

Just posting cause I'd love to see some beta wu's available so I can test my new 2x470 setup (linux app)
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Message 16811 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 13:29:48 UTC

<core_client_version>6.10.51</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
# Using device 0
# There is 1 device supporting CUDA
# Device 0: "GeForce GTX 470"
# Clock rate: 1.21 GHz
# Total amount of global memory: 1341718528 bytes
# Number of multiprocessors: 14
# Number of cores: 112
MDIO ERROR: cannot open file "restart.coor"
# Time per step (avg over 50000 steps): 7.576 ms
# Approximate elapsed time for entire WU: 378.781 s
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>

My first beta WU with gtx470 using 06.10.51 and driver 197.75 taking 6 min 25 secs.
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Message 16812 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 13:34:04 UTC - in response to Message 16811.  

Thanks Ton,

My Setup and poor results:

W7 64bit with GTX470
Boinc 6.10.51, Driver 197.75
Core Clock 703MHz, (ASUS Smard Doctor + GPUZ + EVGA Precision 1.9.3)
Shader Clock 1406MHz, (ASUS Smard Doctor + GPUZ + EVGA Precision 1.9.3)
RAM:
3348MHz acording to ASUS SmartDoctor,
1806MHz going by EVGA Precision 1.9.3,
903MHz going by GPUZ 0.4.2
No Other Boinc Tasks (just GPUGrid Fermi Betas)
Swan_Sync=0
NVidia Control panel,
Power Management Mode set to Prefer Maximum Performance
Last 3 Tasks (at the above settings),
2275201 1436286 4 May 2010 12:56:57 UTC 4 May 2010 13:18:32 UTC Completed and validated 915.99 814.70 187.28 280.92 ACEMD beta version v6.23 (cuda30)
2275143 1436248 4 May 2010 12:37:16 UTC 4 May 2010 13:03:03 UTC Completed and validated 914.72 814.14 187.28 280.92 ACEMD beta version v6.23 (cuda30)
2275127 1436237 4 May 2010 12:29:29 UTC 4 May 2010 12:45:17 UTC Completed and validated 888.60 812.34 187.28 280.92 ACEMD beta version v6.23 (cuda30)

So my tasks are still taking about 15min 30sec rather than 6min 25sec.
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Message 16813 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 14:06:04 UTC - in response to Message 16812.  

Do you set switch physx (nvidia) = disabled? This is correct.
Set systemperformance to highspeed!

Good luck!
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Message 16816 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 15:36:45 UTC - in response to Message 16813.  
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Physx was on, within NVidia control panel.

When I switched it off it made no difference,

2275632 1436530 4 May 2010 14:52:38 UTC 4 May 2010 15:12:24 UTC Completed and validated 901.78 816.36 187.28 280.92 ACEMD beta version v6.23 (cuda30)
2275578 1436458 4 May 2010 14:38:53 UTC 4 May 2010 14:57:15 UTC Completed and validated 900.44 815.89 187.28 280.92 ACEMD beta version v6.23 (cuda30)

Going to try nTune!
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Message 16818 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 17:07:13 UTC - in response to Message 16816.  

I'm trying to determine why I can't seem to pull any WUs on my 470 set up. I have verified that my gpugrid settings are such that I am only pulling beta work units, but I am still not able to get anything. Others on my team are pulling WUs, but mine is not getting anything. Is this because I am using Linux?
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Message 16822 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 19:52:46 UTC

Would running the GTX 480s in SLI with Windows 7 x64 be the reason for both cards only using 40% gpu usage? I've verified with both EVGA Precision 1.9.3 and GPUz that my overclocked settings of 1550mhz shaders and 2000mhz memory are correct and holding while running GPUgrid.

I'll try turning PhysX off but I don't see why that would matter.

I'll also run some Vantage and game benchmarks to see if I'm getting the results I should be. I haven't done any benchmarks with these new 480s but playing Battlefield Bad Company 2 has seemed fine.
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Message 16823 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 20:06:16 UTC - in response to Message 16822.  

Has anyone managed to get a GTX480 to crunch a Beta in 5min 30sec (or there abouts) when running Windows 7 or Vista?

Ditto for a GTX470 (just 6min 25sec)?

We know people have them working on XP at these speeds, and on Linux (in the labs).


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Message 16824 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 21:51:21 UTC

Same Problem here with Win 7 64bit and one 480 card, it's taking about 9 minutes to do one WU and that is mildly overclocked to 1600 Shaders.

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Message 16827 - Posted: 4 May 2010, 23:02:18 UTC - in response to Message 16824.  
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Thanks,
The 1600 shaders are a reasonable overclock for a GTX480, at this stage.
I would hope they go above 1650, but who knows what live tasks will bring?

Your numbers are out by about 1.6 times that of the best reported Win XP task. I'm getting similar results, albeit on a GTX470. So perhaps the issues are with the Vista/W7 drivers? Either that or someone is not telling us something!
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Message 16828 - Posted: 5 May 2010, 10:49:53 UTC - in response to Message 16827.  

The beta has been promoted to the application acemd6.73 cuda3.
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Message 16829 - Posted: 5 May 2010, 11:15:51 UTC - in response to Message 16828.  

The beta has been promoted to the application acemd6.73 cuda3.
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Does that mean that we can now accept non-beta work units for our Fermi GPUs?
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