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Send message Joined: 22 Feb 10 Posts: 9 Credit: 16,172,951 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Just gave it a shot on win7 64bit and instant computation error, that was with 197.41 drivers. Tried to install the DEV cuda 3.0 drivers version 197.13 and said I had no supported hardware. This is on a evga gtx 480. |
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Send message Joined: 17 Aug 08 Posts: 2705 Credit: 1,311,122,549 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Generally speaking, when Nvidia comes out with a card that is supposed to compete with ATI (and the converse) one expects that the new card will have 1.5 to 3 times the performance of the rival;s top-of-the-line card... Assuming this would turn practically every card into a failure. Consider this: - GP-GPU wise it's still a little wild west, but gaming wise both design are quite mature - thei're using their transistors in an efficient way and there's no easy to dramatically improve this, the low hanging fruits are all eaten by now - both use the same process at the same manufacturer and thus get similar power efficiency at the transistor level Apart from special new feature the only way left to (greatly) improve performance is by using more transistors. Asking for an advantage of a factor of 3 would require about 3 times as many transistors. And such a chip could likely not be clocked as high (longer signal lengths for cross-chip communication, larger scatter of transistor performance across the chip) you'd probably need anywhere from 3 to 4 times as many transistors. Fine - but you can't use an infinite amount of them. Power consumption goes up linearly with transistor count and you're currenty capped at a maximum of 300 W. And you have to be able to manufacture the huge chip at all.. :p As you see, nVidia is already pushing it quite hard (some say too hard) at 3.2 billion transistors. Yet at best they could expect about 50% higher performance than Cypress (not talking about fancy architecture tricks or new features). So you can't blame them for not trying to give you 1.5 times the performance of the best ATI chip - actually they failed because they tried to do so! Except Fermi should have been backwards compatible, and does not appear to be so ... It does run general CUDA code just fine (if it doesn't it's probably a driver bug). However, it doesn't run the code hand-crafted for GT200 - because it's a different chip. MrS Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002 |
skgivenSend message Joined: 23 Apr 09 Posts: 3968 Credit: 1,995,359,260 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
http://www.gpugrid.net/show_host_detail.php?hostid=63357 http://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=63357 The betas are doing well on a GTX470. Tried a shutdown boinc, and a restart. It started at the begining (but I would expect that on such short tasks). GPU at 54% use (EVGA Precision; might not tell you much, but suggests potential). GPU Temp at 81 deg C. http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/79dud/ |
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Send message Joined: 6 Jun 08 Posts: 152 Credit: 328,250,382 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Where do i have to change that in windows-xp-pro? Ton (ftpd) Netherlands |
nenymSend message Joined: 31 Mar 09 Posts: 137 Credit: 1,431,087,071 RAC: 58,001 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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MyComputer/right click -> Manage -> Computer managent(Local)/right click -> properties -> Advanced -> environment variables -> settings -> new system variable -> add Should it work on 6.22 + GTX260? It seems not to work. CPU load 0 - 3% on 4CPU Xeon for both values 0 and 1. |
skgivenSend message Joined: 23 Apr 09 Posts: 3968 Credit: 1,995,359,260 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Tried another close & open Boinc after 13min run time of a task. It picked up at 12min and completed OK. Also tried Suspend & Resume; the tasks started from zero, again. PS. The SWAN_SYNC=0 variable works on Binc 6.10.43 W7 Pro, after closing and opening Boinc. Excellent, Thank You! Already starting to see the difference, task. how to set SWAN_SYNC=0 on win7... Just enter SWAN_SYNC=0 twice ;) |
GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Your card seems to run at lower clocks that what it should be. gdf Tried another close & open Boinc after 13min run time of a task. It picked up at 12min and completed OK. |
skgivenSend message Joined: 23 Apr 09 Posts: 3968 Credit: 1,995,359,260 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It is running at stock GTX470 speeds! Perhaps W7 64 is a bit slow? Now only running 6 CPU Boinc tasks (mostly WCG), using 88% CPU. CPU @ 3.3GHz: This task is much faster :) It will be left running, as is; to only pick up betas tomorrow (30/04/10), but I may not be around much. Good Luck, |
GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It is running at stock GTX470 speeds! If you look at the output of ACEMD here: http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=2243388 Your clock seems to be at only 0.8Ghz and indeed time per step is high. gdf |
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Send message Joined: 11 Jul 09 Posts: 21 Credit: 3,021,211 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]()
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So do we add SWAN_SYNC=0 in both the User and System? Tried another close & open Boinc after 13min run time of a task. It picked up at 12min and completed OK. |
skgivenSend message Joined: 23 Apr 09 Posts: 3968 Credit: 1,995,359,260 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
yes, core count says 112 upgraded to latest Boinc Beta, but says, 30/04/2010 00:20:42 NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 470 (driver version 19703, CUDA version 3000, compute capability 2.0, 1248MB, 726 GFLOPS peak) 8-GIANNI_TESTDHFR6-2-10-RND0996_0 took 11min 24sec. will restart, |
skgivenSend message Joined: 23 Apr 09 Posts: 3968 Credit: 1,995,359,260 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
[quote]yes, core count says 112 This is wrong reporting. The problem is this: # Clock rate: 0.81 GHz g |
skgivenSend message Joined: 23 Apr 09 Posts: 3968 Credit: 1,995,359,260 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
After restart Boinc still thinks clock is 0.81 (6.10.50). But, this task finished injust under 8min! Odd. |
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Hi! please help I can't get beta WU for GTX470, my details are as below 4/30 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.50 for windows_intelx86 4/30 log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task 4/30 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3 4/30 Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC 4/30 Running under account admin 4/30 Processor: 4 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor [Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 3] 4/30 Processor: 512.00 KB cache 4/30 Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow 4/30 OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00) 4/30 Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 4.84 GB virtual 4/30 Disk: 127.99 GB total, 72.23 GB free 4/30 Local time is UTC +8 hours 4/30 NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 470 (driver version 19741, CUDA version 3000, compute capability 2.0, 1280MB, 1089 GFLOPS peak) 4/30 NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 470 (driver version 19741, CUDA version 3000, compute capability 2.0, 1280MB, 1089 GFLOPS peak) 4/30 Version change (6.10.45 -> 6.10.50) 4/30 GPUGRID URL http://www.gpugrid.net/; Computer ID 51533; resource share 100 4/30 PrimeGrid URL http://www.primegrid.com/; Computer ID 124572; resource share 100 4/30 GPUGRID General prefs: from GPUGRID (last modified 13-Apr-2010 12:34:07) 4/30 GPUGRID Computer location: home 4/30 GPUGRID General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults 4/30 Reading preferences override file 4/30 Preferences: 4/30 max memory usage when active: 2763.38MB 4/30 max memory usage when idle: 2763.38MB 4/30 max disk usage: 10.00GB 4/30 max download rate: 1024000 bytes/sec 4/30 max upload rate: 1024000 bytes/sec 4/30 (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager) 4/30 Not using a proxy 4/30 Running CPU benchmarks 4/30 Suspending computation - running CPU benchmarks 4/30 Benchmark results: 4/30 Number of CPUs: 4 4/30 2296 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 4/30 4740 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU 4/30 PrimeGrid Restarting task llr_sob_47464748_0 using llrSOB version 511 4/30 GPUGRID Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 4/30 GPUGRID Requesting new tasks for GPU 4/30 GPUGRID Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 4/30 GPUGRID Message from server: No work sent 4/30 GPUGRID Message from server: No work is available for ACEMD beta version same problem on ealier beta version 6.10.45. |
Paul D. BuckSend message Joined: 9 Jun 08 Posts: 1050 Credit: 37,321,185 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Hi! please help I can't get beta WU for GTX470, .... Beta work is always hard to come by ... they only issue a few tasks to validate the code ... then make changes and repeat ... |
GDFSend message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1958 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
After restart Boinc still thinks clock is 0.81 (6.10.50). If you use SWAN_SYNC=0 (if you should notice the use of a full CPU), then # Time per step (avg over 30000 steps): 15.143 ms should be around 7.1 ms or at least that's what it is in Linux. gdf |
skgivenSend message Joined: 23 Apr 09 Posts: 3968 Credit: 1,995,359,260 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
[quote]yes, core count says 112 So why the 0.81 clock rate? 30/04/2010 09:21:34 NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 470 (driver version 19741, CUDA version 3000, compute capability 2.0, 1248MB, 726 GFLOPS peak) GPUZ says 1215 or 1220MHz shaders, http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/79dud/ http://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=63357 http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=2244231 PS. EVGA precision (jan 2010) mixes the core & RAM readings up and cant change timings: core 1674, shader 810 (correct), RAM 405. My card is Lazy! |
BeyondSend message Joined: 23 Nov 08 Posts: 1112 Credit: 6,162,416,256 RAC: 0 Level ![]() Scientific publications ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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PS. EVGA precision (jan 2010) mixes the core & RAM readings up and cant change timings: Try MSI Afterburner, the best GPU tweaking and fan control program I've used. Works better than EVGA precision for me: MSI Afterburner GPU Control |
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Did the beta WUs dry up? the last one I got was at 30 Apr 2010 5:16:29 UTC. Thanks - Steve |
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