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Message 16460 - Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 13:32:40 UTC - in response to Message 16456.  

6.72 is the fastest application. It is faster than 6.03 on G200 cards.

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Message 16468 - Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 0:23:45 UTC

about 8500 secs faster than 6.03 on 260-216

2189111 1379690 20 Apr 2010 10:46:28 UTC 21 Apr 2010 0:14:01 UTC Completed and validated 29,102.41 7,663.80 7,954.42 11,931.63 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.72 (cuda)
2187933 1379207 20 Apr 2010 6:46:22 UTC 20 Apr 2010 22:19:05 UTC Completed and validated 37,654.18 9,277.25 7,645.29 11,467.93 ACEMD - GPU molecular dynamics v6.03 (cuda)

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Message 16469 - Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 1:40:11 UTC

While I have only completed 1 WU I hope to see lots more to come.
GPUGrid is good ... seriously you guys are really good at what you!!!
My GTX295 gets about 5600 sec improvement.
I'm running shaders at 1656 and the time step was 17.892 ms

I have a 480 arriving at my house Thursday and I am eagerly waiting for the next new version of ACEMD that it can crunch ... we will see just what these monsters can do.

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Message 16470 - Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 9:33:35 UTC - in response to Message 16469.  

Another 30% improvement!
Again, well done.
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Message 16477 - Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 15:37:57 UTC

I have received 1 beta WU 6.72.

Takes 8 min 45 sec on GTX 295.

Tomorrow i will report about WU on GTS 250 and GTX 260.

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Message 16479 - Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 15:46:20 UTC - in response to Message 16477.  
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Sorry, sorry

Time must be 8 hours 45 minutes.
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Message 16480 - Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 18:58:46 UTC - in response to Message 16470.  

Another 30% improvement!
Again, well done.

Improvement at the expense of higher cpu usage?
6.03=1-2%
6.72=3-6%

I'm seeing "reds" in boinctasks for my cpu projects.
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Message 16481 - Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 19:51:30 UTC - in response to Message 16470.  

Another 30% improvement!

I don't think the improvement is anywhere near 30% it's more like 14% on that type of WU judging by 2 WUs done on ftpd's 295 not a scientific sample but I doubt the improvement is going to be a true 30% on any card just as the last one from 6.71 to 6.03 was anywhere near 60% as i believe was claimed.




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Message 16482 - Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 20:46:58 UTC - in response to Message 16481.  

On a g200 card the new application is 100% faster than the original ACEMD application which lasted almost one year.
No further improvements are planned.

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Message 16488 - Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 9:27:33 UTC

GTX 260 - WU 6.72 = OK
8 hours 5 minutes

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Message 16492 - Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 12:31:47 UTC
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While the speed increased for some GPUs, it looks like the credit awarded is going down by 2000 points:

p5-IBUCH_0510_pYEEI_long_100420-1-4-RND1103_0 1382090 21 Apr 2010 2:37:48 UTC 22 Apr 2010 6:13:51 UTC
Completed and validated 49,845.25 5,175.23 7,954.42 9,943.03 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.72 (cuda)

http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=1381327

p43-IBUCH_0511_pYEEI_long_100420-1-4-RND4049_0 1381327 20 Apr 2010 20:47:15 UTC 21 Apr 2010 16:22:57 UTC
Completed and validated 49,555.66 5,158.56 7,954.42 11,931.63 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.72 (cuda)

http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=1382090
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Message 16495 - Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 13:39:49 UTC - in response to Message 16492.  

They are different workunits with different number of steps. Look at the result report for a confirmation.
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While the speed increased for some GPUs, it looks like the credit awarded is going down by 2000 points:

p5-IBUCH_0510_pYEEI_long_100420-1-4-RND1103_0 1382090 21 Apr 2010 2:37:48 UTC 22 Apr 2010 6:13:51 UTC
Completed and validated 49,845.25 5,175.23 7,954.42 9,943.03 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.72 (cuda)

http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=1381327

p43-IBUCH_0511_pYEEI_long_100420-1-4-RND4049_0 1381327 20 Apr 2010 20:47:15 UTC 21 Apr 2010 16:22:57 UTC
Completed and validated 49,555.66 5,158.56 7,954.42 11,931.63 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.72 (cuda)

http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=1382090

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Message 16497 - Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 14:19:42 UTC - in response to Message 16495.  
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Beyond, it looks the top task picked up a 25% bonus rather than a 50% bonus.
Reason, missed 24h deadline by about 3.5h

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Turn your cache down to 0.05 or similar.

If you are running CPU tasks and want to keep a few days worth in cache,
stop receiving new GPU tasks, turn up your cache, collect whatever CPU tasks you need (say 5days) then turn your cach right down to 0.05days, and enable new GPU tasks.

We could probably do with a seperate GPU control Tab on Boinc!
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Message 16503 - Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 19:47:49 UTC - in response to Message 16495.  

They are different workunits with different number of steps. Look at the result report for a confirmation.
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While the speed increased for some GPUs, it looks like the credit awarded is going down by 2000 points:

p5-IBUCH_0510_pYEEI_long_100420-1-4-RND1103_0 1382090 21 Apr 2010 2:37:48 UTC 22 Apr 2010 6:13:51 UTC
Completed and validated 49,845.25 5,175.23 7,954.42 9,943.03 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.72 (cuda)

http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=1381327

p43-IBUCH_0511_pYEEI_long_100420-1-4-RND4049_0 1381327 20 Apr 2010 20:47:15 UTC 21 Apr 2010 16:22:57 UTC
Completed and validated 49,555.66 5,158.56 7,954.42 11,931.63 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.72 (cuda)

http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=1382090


I don't think so. Time/step was nearly identical as was the total time for the WU Same computer/GPU.

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Message 16504 - Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 19:59:58 UTC - in response to Message 16497.  

Beyond, it looks the top task picked up a 25% bonus rather than a 50% bonus.
Reason, missed 24h deadline by about 3.5h

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Turn your cache down to 0.05 or similar.

If you are running CPU tasks and want to keep a few days worth in cache,
stop receiving new GPU tasks, turn up your cache, collect whatever CPU tasks you need (say 5days) then turn your cach right down to 0.05days, and enable new GPU tasks.

We could probably do with a seperate GPU control Tab on Boinc!

I agree about the separate GPU cache control, as well as project by project cache control. I've asked DA & company for it. You can guess the response, same as always :-(

Didn't know that the bonus went down after 24hours. With these new long WUs, for now looks like I'll have to be preforming a lot of abortions (of the WU variety)...
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Message 16505 - Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 20:13:12 UTC - in response to Message 16504.  

Recently the bonus was increased to 50% for tasks completed in 1day. Prior to this there was a bonus of 25% for tasks completed within 2 days – This 2 day bonus still applies.
This is essentially to encourage faster turnaround of tasks, which in turn speeds up the project, as in compound interest (accelerates it)! Presently the CC1.3 cards can all do the longer WUs well within the 24h time frame, but it is important to have a low cache for CC1.1 andCC1.2 cards. It also helps the project to have a lower cache for CC1.3 cards.
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Message 16506 - Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 20:48:38 UTC - in response to Message 16505.  

Recently the bonus was increased to 50% for tasks completed in 1day. Prior to this there was a bonus of 25% for tasks completed within 2 days – This 2 day bonus still applies.
This is essentially to encourage faster turnaround of tasks, which in turn speeds up the project, as in compound interest (accelerates it)! Presently the CC1.3 cards can all do the longer WUs well within the 24h time frame, but it is important to have a low cache for CC1.1 andCC1.2 cards. It also helps the project to have a lower cache for CC1.3 cards.

The cc1.1 cards can't make the 24 hour limit with the long WUs so they're back on v6.03. The GTX 260 is fine with the .33 day cache. The 3 GT 240 cards have a problem with the 24 hour deadline when using a .33 day cache for the CPU projects. Don't really want to go too much less than that.
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Message 16507 - Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 22:00:13 UTC - in response to Message 16503.  
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I repeat. There is nothing strange about these two workunits, one is simply longer than the other one (time/step is the same but number of timesteps is different).

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They are different workunits with different number of steps. Look at the result report for a confirmation.
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While the speed increased for some GPUs, it looks like the credit awarded is going down by 2000 points:

p5-IBUCH_0510_pYEEI_long_100420-1-4-RND1103_0 1382090 21 Apr 2010 2:37:48 UTC 22 Apr 2010 6:13:51 UTC
Completed and validated 49,845.25 5,175.23 7,954.42 9,943.03 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.72 (cuda)

http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=1381327

p43-IBUCH_0511_pYEEI_long_100420-1-4-RND4049_0 1381327 20 Apr 2010 20:47:15 UTC 21 Apr 2010 16:22:57 UTC
Completed and validated 49,555.66 5,158.56 7,954.42 11,931.63 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.72 (cuda)

http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=1382090


I don't think so. Time/step was nearly identical as was the total time for the WU Same computer/GPU.

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Message 16508 - Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 9:08:41 UTC - in response to Message 16507.  
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This long 6.72 task ran on one of my GT240s.
It completed and validated in about 18h; within 1 day, for the full 50% bonus.
6.72 tasks are about 21% faster than the 6.03 tasks on a GT240.
All my systems use a 0.05 day cache.


2200081 1379585 22 Apr 2010 10:36:29 UTC 23 Apr 2010 5:34:49 UTC Completed and validated 64,182.75 13,417.75 7,954.42 11,931.63 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.72 (cuda)

- I am expecting one of my more overclocked GT240 cards to finish a long 6.72 task in 16h 45min.
- GPU 600MHz, Shaders 1625MHz, GDDR5 1800MHz. The shaders are 21% overclocked, which is what counts the most.
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Message 16510 - Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 10:24:11 UTC - in response to Message 16508.  

22 Apr 2010 16:31:37 UTC 23 Apr 2010 10:12:32 UTC Completed and validated 60,358.42 12,729.48 7,853.81 11,780.71 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.72 (cuda)

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=2201187
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