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Message 15122 - Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 16:54:14 UTC

We have put the first WUs in the new acemd2 application.
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Message 15128 - Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 19:42:19 UTC - in response to Message 15122.  
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Are these indicated by the application ...
ACEMD - GPU molecular dynamics 6.01 (cuda)?
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Message 15129 - Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 19:46:14 UTC - in response to Message 15128.  

I get:

Wed 10 Feb 2010 05:56:59 PM CET GPUGRID Starting task 594-IBUCH_1000smd_pYEEI_100202-3-10-RND9182_0 using acemd2 version 602
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Message 15130 - Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 19:52:50 UTC - in response to Message 15129.  

Are you expecting the 60% increase with this application/task set combo?
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Message 15131 - Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 20:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 15130.  

Exactly as the beta.

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Message 15132 - Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 20:39:58 UTC - in response to Message 15129.  
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Wed 10 Feb 2010 05:56:59 PM CET GPUGRID Starting task 594-IBUCH_1000smd_pYEEI_100202-3-10-RND9182_0 using acemd2 version 602


OK, I think I follow you, I see the same when I find the relevant entry in the Messages tab in BOINC Manager. If you look at the Tasks tab, the Application column says it is ACEMD - GPU molecular dynamics 6.01 (cuda).

Can you please align whatever is necessary so at least the app name and version are the same?
Thanks - Steve
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Message 15135 - Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 1:21:58 UTC - in response to Message 15132.  

I got two 6.01's

11/02/2010 01:09:08 GPUGRID Starting task 387-IBUCH_1000smd_pYEEI_100202-3-10-RND6076_1 using acemd2 version 601

Shows as 6.01 in BAM tasks

Shows as acemd2_6.01_windows_intelx86__cuda in Win Task Manager

Looks as though there are still 6.01's in the queue. I have one running, and one queued this end.

Is there any expected run time difference (as such) between 6.01 & 6.02?

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Message 15138 - Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 8:10:57 UTC - in response to Message 15135.  

Is there any expected run time difference (as such) between 6.01 & 6.02?

Applications: 6.01 is Windows, 6.02 is Linux.
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Message 15139 - Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 8:22:10 UTC - in response to Message 15138.  

The "application" column in boinc manager is not relevant yet. What matters is the "messages" string. For now there are only a few WUs for the new app, more to come.
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Message 15141 - Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 9:31:58 UTC - in response to Message 15138.  

Ding Dong :)

Thanks Richard

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Message 15146 - Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 12:08:11 UTC - in response to Message 15141.  

Old application,
Picked up these two tasks today,
5-GIANNI_BIND_751-81-100-RND2022
52-GIANNI_BIND_2-79-100-RND8818
Both use v6.71 (cuda23).
Although they say that they need 15% of one CPU each, they are actually only using about 1% between them. Tasks running on two GT240's on an i7-920 W7Pro X64, 7Threads enabled for CPU use, total CPU usage 88%. I freed up one thread to expedite the GPU tasks (the other 7 are crunching WCG tasks).
Are there many new application tasks compared to the older tasks?
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Message 15150 - Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 19:19:09 UTC - in response to Message 15146.  

It might be some consolation to others that my cards are getting the older, slower and wobblier tasks!
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Message 15156 - Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 20:37:57 UTC - in response to Message 15150.  

In project preferences you should be able to select the application.

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Message 15162 - Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 1:12:27 UTC - in response to Message 15156.  

OK, I know you mean:
Goto Your account, select GPUGrid Preferences, Select Edit GPUGrid Prefernces, and Deselect ACEMD - leaving ACEMD 2.

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http://www.gpugrid.net/prefs.php?subset=project

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Message 15164 - Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 5:40:28 UTC - in response to Message 15162.  

6 hrs and 25 minutes on my gtx 260 216 cores. i would say that it is faster.
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Message 15169 - Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 10:29:50 UTC - in response to Message 15164.  
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I am also getting big performance improvements from my GTX260sp216:


    21,804.53 3,627.96 4,531.91 6,118.08 ACEMD - GPU molecular dynamics v6.01 (cuda)
    34,410.33 6,055.99 4,531.91 6,118.08 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.71 (cuda23)
    41,126.95 11,995.04 4,531.91 6,118.08 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.71 (cuda23)

    19,842.14 5,306.09 3,977.21 5,369.23 ACEMD - GPU molecular dynamics v6.01 (cuda)
    26,610.25 5,641.57 3,977.21 5,369.23 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.71 (cuda23)
    26,838.32 5,967.80 3,977.21 5,369.23 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.71 (cuda23)
    42,542.30 12,353.83 4,531.91 4,531.91 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.71 (cuda23)
    40,984.92 12,257.39 4,531.91 4,531.91 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.71 (cuda23)
    33,375.15 7,349.85 2,882.39 3,891.23 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.71 (cuda23)

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Message 15171 - Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 12:09:50 UTC - in response to Message 15169.  
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Wouaaaahh !!
Awesome !!

I had a 6.70 and right after a 6.02 for the same kind of Wu on my GTX275
6.70 : GPU Time: 18,351.38 CPU Time: 9,129.17
6.02 : GPU Time: 12,894.11 CPU Time: 1,503.43

GPU Time: -30% CPU Time: -80%

Well done !!
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Message 15173 - Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 12:29:51 UTC - in response to Message 15171.  

Agreed, Well Done!
Some serious amount of improvement was achieved by refining the application.

Now seeing similar improvement on my GT240 cards:
1841813 1158304, 45,402.39 2,734.11 4,531.91 6,118.08 ACEMD - GPU molecular dynamics v6.01 (cuda)
1840137 1157154, 66,144.96 3,361.48 4,531.91 6,118.08 Full-atom molecular dynamics v6.71 (cuda23)

45,402.39s rather than 66,144.96s is a 45% GPU improvement.
CPU time also dropped by 23% on these CC1.2 cards.
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Message 15176 - Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 14:24:57 UTC - in response to Message 15122.  

Looks like a nice improvement between 30% and 40% on

# Device 0: "GeForce GTS 250"
# Clock rate: 1.84 GHz
# Total amount of global memory: 1073414144 bytes
# Number of multiprocessors: 16
# Number of cores:

Run time CPU time Claimed cred. Granted cred. Application

58933,27 3531,89 4531,91 6118,08 F-a mol. dyn. v6.71 (cuda23)
42016,99 2342,64 4531,91 6118,08 ACEMD - GPU mol dyn v6.01(cuda)

71% 66% 100% 100% ratio

well done

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Message 15182 - Posted: 12 Feb 2010, 16:15:08 UTC - in response to Message 15173.  
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Agreed, Well Done!
Some serious amount of improvement was achieved by refining the application.

Now seeing similar improvement on my GT240 cards:

45,402.39s rather than 66,144.96s is a 45% GPU improvement.
CPU time also dropped by 23% on these CC1.2 cards.

My GT 240 512MB card on the same GIANNI_BIND WUs: an average of 36,200s for v6.01 and 56,344s for v6.71. as you can see quite a bit faster. Two differences: it seems the GDDR5 version is considerably faster in GPUGRID than the GDDR3 version.

The other difference is that my machine is running WinXP and yours Win7. Win7 is still showing a significant slowdown with the new app. While I don't have GIANNI_BIND WUs to compare as my Win7 GT 240 box hasn't gotten any yet, here's a comparison of IBUCH_1000smd_pYEEI WUs: the WinXP box runs an average of 30,350s/WU and the Win7 box is running an average of 34,400s/WU. This is even though the card in the Win box is running at 625MHz while the card in WinXP is at 600MHz. Both are GT 240 512MB GDDR5.

I guess the moral of this story for GPUGRID and the GT 240 is: for fastest performance run WinXP (either 32bit or 64bit is faster for any of the NVidia cards that I've checked), and buy the GDDR5 version rather than GDDR3.
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