I DLed ati-stream-sdk-v2.0-beta4-vista-win7-64.exe (59.3MB). When I double click it...it wants to unzip to: C\...\....\AppData\Local\Temp, so I let it go there....is that correct?

It unzips two separate installers to the directory you specified (one file is the SDK the other one contains sample code).
After they're unzipped you still need to install the SDK from this directory (you probably can skip the samples).

So far:
Any of the 4xxx cards proved to be very very slow. It is unlikely that we will support them due to lack of proper shared memory. For 5xxx, we still could not test because we don't have any, AMD does not send us any and the ones attached do not run at the moment.

We will see in the following days if we can get the performance of a 5xxx card.

gdf

I DLed ati-stream-sdk-v2.0-beta4-vista-win7-64.exe (59.3MB). When I double click it...it wants to unzip to: C\...\....\AppData\Local\Temp, so I let it go there....is that correct?

It unzips two separate installers to the directory you specified (one file is the SDK the other one contains sample code).
After they're unzipped you still need to install the SDK from this directory (you probably can skip the samples).

Ok, Thank You, but still the same thing. I installed both files from the temp directory and rebooted. Detached, shutdown boinc, re-attached....no dice. :(

So far:
Any of the 4xxx cards proved to be very very slow. It is unlikely that we will support them due to lack of proper shared memory. For 5xxx, we still could not test because we don't have any, AMD does not send us any and the ones attached do not run at the moment.

We will see in the following days if we can get the performance of a 5xxx card.

gdf

Well, these card(s) will be pounding collatz for now, but just let me know what You need. I've been with GpuGrid for quite a while....was hoping the ATI day would come! ;) I'll keep an eye on this thread, but feel free to send a PM or email...



Also wanted to give a personal Thanx! to Gispel! GpuGrid is a great project and I was hoping you would find your way here!!

If OpenCL is a/the problem - dont use it - maybe this project could use CAL&Brook like the other projects too (Collatz, Milkyway)

Just had 7 Error out on a Dual 4850 X2 Box ... :(

Also wanted to give a personal Thanx! to Gispel! GpuGrid is a great project and I was hoping you would find your way here!!

But I have nothing contributed here. The credit has to go to GDF and his team for porting the CUDA application to OpenCL.

Unfortunately the shared memory of the HD4000 line gets no support from OpenCL (so it is really slow, only HD5000 line is properly supported). I guess porting it to yet another platform may be a little bit too much effort to ask for. OpenCL and CUDA share a lot of similarities, so it is comparatively easy port. Other platforms have a slightly different philosophy, which would need a lot more effort to support.

I could imagine the project would really like to see the OpenCL environments from both ATI and nvidia to mature fast (and to show similar performance characteristics to the CUDA version in case of nvidia, i.e. not slower). If that is the case in let's say a few month from now, it may be beneficial to maintain only the OpenCL version which would be supported by all platforms (nvidia, ATI, CPUs, and possibly also Cell for PS3). But one has to see first how this whole OpenCL thing develops before declaring this as a goal.

a nice hello for all here ;-)

Also wanted to give a personal Thanx! to Gispel! GpuGrid is a great project and I was hoping you would find your way here!!

But I have nothing contributed here. The credit has to go to GDF and his team for porting the CUDA application to OpenCL.

Absolutely agreed. The GpuGrid team has always worked very diligently to get and keep this project up and running. I've seen a number of positive comments over time from folks coming from other projects. Over time issues are a given...it's how they are handled that makes all the difference....

Maybe I've misunderstood something, but my understanding is that you are 1 of the keys to getting ATI going on MW and Collatz....I don't claim to understand CUDA and CAL and OpenGL and all that...;) But if my understanding is correct (on MW and Collatz)....you've still got a lot to offer here on this advancement.

And, Yes, Many Thanx to GDF et al! This project started on the edge and does a great job of staying there. Much Respect for the continued advancement of this technology!

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Still just telling me that I don't have an Nvidia GPU :(

Gipsel is welcome to help. In a sense is doing it already by writing on this forum. Unfortunately for us, he could not really help with the code as the code is accessed only by few people. Your experience on ATI and Nvidia will be very valuable for us.

GDF

If OpenCL is a/the problem - dont use it - maybe this project could use CAL&Brook like the other projects too (Collatz, Milkyway)

Unfortunately neither OpenCL, nor CAL/Brook+ have FFT libraries at the moment. Cuda does. The GPUgrid app uses FFT functions as does Seti and Einstein.

Gipsel feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know Collatz and Milkyway don't use FFT functions.

OpenCL offers the project code compatibility for the ATI and Nvidia cards, they just need to be compiled with the appropiate compiler. This is why the projects would like to move to using OpenCL.

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BOINC blog

Is it possible to use a 3rd party FFT library?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpufft/

FFT will not be a problem at first.
We have implemented an alternative algorithm which will be fine to run several types of WUs and we still have Nvidia for the WUs which require FFT.

gdf

Well, I just picked up a 3rd 5850 via HF/XFX combo deal. Shipping today. So, by this time next week I will have 3x 5850s in hand.

I'm ready....

Let's DO this....;)

I'm ready too but have set mt Box to NNW for now, unless there's something new to try I can't see spitting out just error's & having the Box Hang as a result of them. I'll keep an eye on the Thread and if something new is going to be tried I'll try & grab a few ... :)

PS: As a side note Subscribing to a Thread is Pointless for me as I never receive a Notice by E-Mail even though I have my Preferences set to do so ... ???

So, we are waiting to receive a 5870 which we ordered and in meanwhile cleaning up the code. But I think that most likely the ATI SDK is the problem (maybe a new release will help). We will also test under windows7 from now on, so to make windows 7 the recommended OS.

thanks for testing. Something more in a week or so.
gdf

So, we are waiting to receive a 5870 which we ordered and in meanwhile cleaning up the code. But I think that most likely the ATI SDK is the problem (maybe a new release will help). We will also test under windows7 from now on, so to make windows 7 the recommended OS.

thanks for testing. Something more in a week or so.
gdf

Sounds Good, GDF. I did have a question on the OS. I use mainly Vista x64, but I do currently have 2 rigs running Win7 RC. I'm not real happy with the win7 RC, maybe I just need to burn a new ISO, but whatever.

Do I need to try to find a cheap copy of Win7?

Also, some 5870s seem to have boot issues. Are you aware of this? If not, I'll try to relocate some links....

No,
we know little about ATI cards and have never run Windows 7. Please provide all the links that we can.

The fact with Windows is that we practically don't use it, so it is quite long to test for different versions. Windows 7 is probably good for gaming and so for us as well.

I just went to the shop. We should have the 5870 by next week.

g

Ok, I understand. I'll have 3 cards in hand next week. Still looking to pick up a 4th. Then a WCing solution! Running short on cash....So, which version of Win7: HP, Pro? Not really looking to spend for Ultimate unless absolutely necessary. Checking out the "Family packs"....

I'll post back with some links. Not sure how big of an issue it really is...number of complaints. I've not had any issues with the 1 card that I have....

BTW, it seems that the issue effects the 5xxx series generally, not just 1 or 2 cards...


Here's a couple quick links:

5850 Boot Problem

5850 long boot time

Google is full of them, but it may be a lot of the same folks looking for answers wherever they can find them, plus whatever the issue is may have already been resolved by ATI in the new stock.


Looks like it may just be a bios issue on some MBs....Asus being one of them. Mine is installed on an Asus P5E-VM HDMI and I've had no issues...

Also, some 5870s seem to have boot issues. Are you aware of this? If not, I'll try to relocate some links

I'm running 10 5870's of 3 different Brands in 5 Box's under Windows XP Pro SP2 64-Bit without any Boot Problems. I have 3 in my lone i7 that Boots up way faster than it ever did with the NVIDIA GTX 200 Series Video Cards it had in it before.

Sounds good, so we're 11 for 11 atm...

Would you care to list MB brands/ models?