Great news, indeed! If you haven't done already, tell AMD that their help and hardware are greatly appreaciated in the world of BOINC :)

MrS

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Great news, indeed! If you haven't done already, tell AMD that their help and hardware are greatly appreaciated in the world of BOINC :)

MrS

Even better point out that the more projects that run ATI applications that work decently, the more cards they will sell to this small, but intense market ... I know I am solidly in the ATI camp and am down to my last couple of Nvidia cards as we type/read ... and if they stay ahead of Nvidia will stay ATI for some time ...

I can see that some of the bigger ranchers have 20-30 systems and they tend to stick with the same cards if they can find one that works well ...

We are not a big as the gamers segment (yet), but 300,000 users world wide is not a trivial market to ignore either ...

I second ETAs comment. I also became a recent convert, after 15 years with NVidia ever since NVidia started on the consumer end of things. The ATI performance on the non BOINC tasks I do has been amazing, it far outweighs expectation let alone hard comparative performance figures. On the BOINC ATI Projects I am now running, it flys ....

Kicking myself I didnt make the move earlier end of last year, but we all live and learn I guess - I had let the last 15 years colour my judgement. I certainly add my lowly voice to the chorus of thanks to AMD for the assist, lets hope it remains over time, and is substantive not transient.

Regards
Zy

poorboy

...I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ???

You could use them on Folding@home

I only run the BOINC Projects, they'll sit Idle before I run Folding@home ...

Really? Why is that?

poorboy

...I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ???

You could use them on Folding@home

I only run the BOINC Projects, they'll sit Idle before I run Folding@home ...

Really? Why is that?

Their my Box's and I choose to Support the BOINC Projects only, that's enough reason for me ... :)

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Reason enough for sure.

The reason I asked is that you seemed to have a particular animus towards Folding as indicated by your statement:

they'll sit Idle before I run Folding@home ...

Folding seems like a worthwhile project to me so I was wondering if you had a bad experience or something?

just out of curiosity have you tested your openCL code on a CPU yet? AMD's opencl cpu compiler should be more mature and less buggy than their gpu compiler. it would also be a nice performance reference.

Reason enough for sure.

The reason I asked is that you seemed to have a particular animus towards Folding as indicated by your statement:

they'll sit Idle before I run Folding@home ...

Folding seems like a worthwhile project to me so I was wondering if you had a bad experience or something?

No, I've never had any dealings with Folding & from reading about it I'm sure it's a worthwhile project. But BOINC was what got me started (SETI Classic) & BOINC is what I will stay with. If Folding ever came under the BOINC Umbrella I would run it but until it does I won't a long as there are BOINC Projects around to run ...

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I think Folding@home is a good project, and I have run a few hundred tasks there.
Their cutoff times are longer, so people that struggle to finish here, or use older cards might want to try folding. The GPU utilisation tends to be higher, so watch out for the heat.
My general opinion is that if the card cant work here it's not worth having, so I get rid of it, or just dont use it - it's down to project preferences, and I'm not interested in some sciences.

I think Folding just does protein folding, so it is different to this project; GPUGrid is unique in that it looks at super-structures (complexes of large molecules, such as lipid bylayer spanning pore proteins). Folding is more akin to Foldit in its research.

In so much as PoorBoy is loyal to Boinc, others are loyal to Folding. Perhaps if Folding and Boinc colaborated in terms of recognition (points/tasks/achievements) it would be more favourable, but Folding is a very big project, with hundreds of thousands of present crunchers.
They dont need you as much as GPUGrid does.

Would be nice if F@H introduced a BOINC wrapper, like e.g. yoyo@home. But their entire infrastructure is probably not very compatible with BOINC and they looked into it some time ago - and found it not be stable enough (or whatever other reason).

MrS

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I agree with the wrapper for folding, the one for dnetc looks good. The fah client is not so user friendly in comparison with boinc. I stopped folding a month ago due to the poor optimization of the ati client, and also the reluctance to give feedback to the 'new client'. I'm using my ati cards for seti and collatz (the low-level ones).

It's a bit off topic, but ATI for SETI? I didn't hear about that heard yet. How's performance?

MrS

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It's a bit off topic, but ATI for SETI? I didn't hear about that heard yet. How's performance?

MrS

Still in Beta and it is for the AP tasks only as far as I have been able to find out. Again, the preliminary reports are that it is somewhat like the EaH application in the it uses more CPU than most would like though that is supposedly falling as they have worked the code.

The main coders are on Lunatics and the beta is not a full open beta yet ...

It's a bit off topic, but ATI for SETI? I didn't hear about that heard yet. How's performance?

MrS

Still in Beta and it is for the AP tasks only as far as I have been able to find out. Again, the preliminary reports are that it is somewhat like the EaH application in the it uses more CPU than most would like though that is supposedly falling as they have worked the code.

The main coders are on Lunatics and the beta is not a full open beta yet ...

The hybrid version (for 2xxx and up) yes, still using too much CPU, like the EaH.
The OpenCL+Brook+ (for 4xxx and up) is using 98% GPU + ~5% CPU.

In so much as PoorBoy is loyal to Boinc, others are loyal to Folding. Perhaps if Folding and Boinc colaborated in terms of recognition (points/tasks/achievements) it would be more favourable, but Folding is a very big project, with hundreds of thousands of present crunchers.
They dont need you as much as GPUGrid does.

I may be wrong but it seem to me at one time Folding & BOINC tried to get together but never could Iron out the Details. From what I think I remember Folding wanted everything to much their way and the Deal never went thru ... Like I said I think I remember something like that taking place in the past ...

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I have a 5750 ATI GPU running on linux, I would be happy to help with some testing if needed.

Any news on ATI cards yet? Did you get them working well? I have a couple 5970's I would like to use but...

Any news on ATI cards yet? Did you get them working well? I have a couple 5970's I would like to use but...

Yes, I cannot wait to help this project with my ATI.

Hmm, an update would be nice, it's been a few weeks since anything was said.

Rest assured that if there is no update, it's not there yet ;)
(of course it would be nice to know whether there was progress or not)

MrS

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