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Message 16617 - Posted: 29 Apr 2010, 4:52:56 UTC - in response to Message 16611.  

I think that we understood in a small test code what is the problem and why we did not get the performance. If we can replicate the fix to ACEMD and it works there as well, then there could be some very good news.

The best news I have had in, like, forever ...

Especially when I am on the verge of having 3 each HD5870 cards ... :)

If I recall correctly, GPU Grid will never be able to be run on less ... anyway ... I look forward to more ...
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Message 16621 - Posted: 29 Apr 2010, 8:51:27 UTC - in response to Message 16617.  
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Good news :)

If it will work it will be the fourth project for ATI.

1. MilkyWay@home
2. Collatz Conjecture
3. DNETC@HOME
4. and GPUGRID

I am keeping my fingers crossed!
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Message 16623 - Posted: 29 Apr 2010, 12:15:06 UTC - in response to Message 16621.  

Good news :)

If it will work it will be the fourth project for ATI.

1. MilkyWay@home
2. Collatz Conjecture
3. DNETC@HOME
4. and GPUGRID

I am keeping my fingers crossed!

Seti & Primegrid not fully optimized ;)
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Message 16625 - Posted: 29 Apr 2010, 14:50:29 UTC - in response to Message 16623.  

Seti & Primegrid not fully optimized ;)

SaH is a new application in testing, the last I checked the PG is not even in a beta test, it has only been tested in stand alone modes... even the one CUDA application has been retired because the sub-project is over. As of a couple a days ago there was no GPU application on PG in use ...
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Message 16724 - Posted: 1 May 2010, 16:34:26 UTC

Well, Mr. Project Guy ... one more Nvidia pulled and replaced with ATI card ... puts my project standing in dire straits sadly ... but ... I have to cut my power and increase my throughput and this is the cheapest way for me to get from here to there ...

The one piece of good news is that though I only have 20 hours of testing in ... the GTX295 card I pulled from GPU Grid because Vista was giving me daily "Driver stopped" messages may be working better under Win7-64 (none so far, crosses fingers, raps wood ...) if that holds I will be putting that card back to work here ... so that is one plus out of all this ...
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Message 16725 - Posted: 1 May 2010, 16:41:07 UTC - in response to Message 16724.  

A big Plus, i'd say!
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Message 16735 - Posted: 2 May 2010, 1:41:43 UTC - in response to Message 16725.  

A big Plus, i'd say!

Been running not quite 24 hours ... going to take a couple of days to see a difference in stats I know ... and with the "pulsing" in the numbers it is hard to know where you are till you get at least a weeks data or better a month ... then you can average it out ... today's update had me at 705K for the day, not bad, but less than yesterday's 720, or the day before's 790 ...

My pending on Collatz is at an all time high though ... so ... that is good ... making money on DNETC and they seem to be making small changes over the batches so maybe we can close in on the problems they are seeing there ... I have been getting errors and hard to know why, asked for more logging and hours later I have a bunch of results with nice logs ...

Not sure if it is going to help with the "hang" problem though, if the task hangs and gets aborted if they just opened the log once it might be still open when the kill comes in and the log data will be lost ... if they do an open, append, close for each statement we might get some where ... though I saw a synch line in there that worries me ... it waits for the GPUs to end ... what if the GPU does not know it has ended, or sent the signal already?
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Message 16769 - Posted: 3 May 2010, 9:05:16 UTC - in response to Message 16735.  

ATi OpenCL Stream SDK 2.1 is out now. Maybe it helps you with some bugfixing!
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Message 16771 - Posted: 3 May 2010, 9:10:49 UTC - in response to Message 16769.  

Thanks, in this version, there could be the first working application.
We are working hard on ATI now and we like the hardware.

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Message 16772 - Posted: 3 May 2010, 10:31:11 UTC - in response to Message 16771.  
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Which of the ATI cards are being used for development ?

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Message 16773 - Posted: 3 May 2010, 10:56:35 UTC - in response to Message 16772.  
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One ATI HD5850 and a HD5670.
The current speed of a HD5850 on ACEMD is twice as slow as a GTX275 (one month ago was ten times). There is still scope for improvement. The code is not stable yet, maybe with 2.1.

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Message 16776 - Posted: 3 May 2010, 11:56:26 UTC - in response to Message 16773.  
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Okie Doke - Many Thanks

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Message 16788 - Posted: 3 May 2010, 17:46:03 UTC - in response to Message 16773.  

One ATI HD5850 and a HD5670.
The current speed of a HD5850 on ACEMD is twice as slow as a GTX275 (one month ago was ten times). There is still scope for improvement. The code is not stable yet, maybe with 2.1.

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Ugh, I would expect based on other projects that those numbers would be more like reversed ... :(

Still, as you note, still room for improvement...

Looking forward to being able to try it ... I seem to be down to only one card on GPU Grid in that I put the GTX295 card back into rotation but all the tasks seem to be failing ... :(

So, down to only one GTX280 card ... which on DNETC, Collatz and MW is considerably slower than the HD5870s which are my current backbone...
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Message 16833 - Posted: 5 May 2010, 15:52:00 UTC

Hi I have a Win 7 64bit computer with Radeon 5870. I would like to help if it is needed.
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Message 16913 - Posted: 8 May 2010, 20:25:10 UTC - in response to Message 16788.  

Ugh, I would expect based on other projects that those numbers would be more like reversed ... :(


Just don't forget that ATIs 5-wide execution units give you more raw compute horse power per transistor, but are also harder to use efficiently. So you can't expect ATI to be faster for every algorithm.. otherwise nVidias design would be really stupid ;)

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Message 16915 - Posted: 8 May 2010, 20:45:14 UTC - in response to Message 16913.  
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... :)
That is funny. No, hilarious.
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Message 16959 - Posted: 11 May 2010, 14:38:44 UTC - in response to Message 16915.  

The SDK2.1 is better but still has several bugs in parts which are required to run the code reliably. We must wait for the next release.

In the meanwhile we are working on the performance with the help of AMD.

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Message 16960 - Posted: 11 May 2010, 14:53:42 UTC - in response to Message 16959.  

The SDK2.1 is better but still has several bugs in parts which are required to run the code reliably. We must wait for the next release.

In the meanwhile we are working on the performance with the help of AMD.

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Thats is good news once again ... and if they are helping, maybe they will see first hand the problems with the SDK and that will improve the chances that that will be fixed as well ...

Thanks for the update ...
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Message 16962 - Posted: 11 May 2010, 15:18:46 UTC - in response to Message 16959.  
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In the meanwhile we are working on the performance with the help of AMD.

Very good news. Thanks!
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Message 16977 - Posted: 12 May 2010, 5:05:08 UTC - in response to Message 16959.  

The SDK2.1 is better but still has several bugs in parts which are required to run the code reliably. We must wait for the next release.

In the meanwhile we are working on the performance with the help of AMD.

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New here with a 5870 open for testing if required. Awesome to read of the work going on here by everyone involved, and the help from AMD!

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