I have two fairly newish AMD Radeon HD 6990/ATI Radeon HD 5970 cards here, that of course do well on other projects, but will supposedly not here...

If you want to contribute to this project so badly, should't you have bought a couple of not so high end nVidia cards (GTX 470, 570) instead?

A project that thinks its volunteers can afford high-priced high-end cards every year, is severely mistaken, has lost it and obviously is living in a dream world!

You are obviously mistaken. You have a card like that, but from the wrong vendor.

Why not simply making the prerequisite of a working quantum computer, if you want to sort out only wealthy gals and guys? I do not intend to spend countless €s on new state-of-the-art GPU hardware every year just to be able to run your project!

Your frustration speaking. I guess you would be equally frustrated from a ridiculously performing AMD client. You can use well your AMD cards elsewhere, so there is no loss from scientific point of view.

And btw regarding that there has allegedly not been enough time to take care of this matter earlier: was the new website REALLY that important for the project or the science? The old one did it for me personally quite well IMHO.

This is a selfish point of view. Maybe the old server software and website didn't do so well for the project.

Sorry, this becomes frustrating and unnerving! Every new post in here makes one think: "Oooh, now there is good news!" and the news just go from bad to worse!

See this post.

Ban me, if you must, for I am beginning to not care anymore!

AMD should be banned for making their customers believe that their GPUs can do everything that nVidia GPUs can. However they will catch up with their new GCN architecture.

A project that thinks its volunteers can afford high-priced high-end cards every year, is severely mistaken, has lost it and obviously is living in a dream world!

You are the one living in a dream world. They don't think volunteers can afford expensive cards every year. The reason they will not support the current crop of AMD GPUs is because they cannot get their algorithm to work well on it. It does *not* matter how many other projects have their code running on AMD, the only thing that matters is the fact that the GPUgrid code does not run well on current AMDs. Maybe with more time and effort it could be done but the developers have made it clear they have invested all the time and effort they can. You have to get used to the idea that project admins are not born to serve us and cater to our demands to make their project run on our hardware and no amount of whining and bellyaching from you is going to change that. Accept it like an adult and move on.

I do not intend to spend countless €s on new state-of-the-art GPU hardware every year just to be able to run your project!

You don't have infinite amounts of money and they don't have infinite amounts of time. Yet you expect them to spend countless hours developing for your hardware! That isn't the way the world works. Successful people know when it's time to stop flogging a dead horse and move on. As far as GPUgrid computations are concerned, your AMD is a dead horse and it isn't going to run no matter how hard you/they flog it. It's time to bury the horse and move on to something productive.

And btw regarding that there has allegedly not been enough time to take care of this matter earlier: was the new website REALLY that important for the project or the science? The old one did it for me personally quite well IMHO.

The old website and server sucked. This one is much better and the time they invested in that was well spent.

Sorry, this becomes frustrating and unnerving! Every new post in here makes one think: "Oooh, now there is good news!" and the news just go from bad to worse!

Awwwwww! I'm so sad for you. Maybe in the future the developers should just say nothing about anything they try just so you won't be disappointed? Do you promise to then say nothing concerning the fact the developers say nothing?

Have a nice Christmas though and I hope Santa is putting a thousand brand new, top model AMD Radeon HD 7990 under your Christmas trees even before release date, or however the enthusiast card will be named then! ;)

Merry Christmas. I hope Santa brings you one too.

Ban me, if you must, for I am beginning to not care anymore!

Do you think we care that you don't care? The only one you seem to care about is you. You don't care about what the devs have tried to do and why it won't work. Why should anybody care about you not caring?

I do not intend to spend countless €s on new state-of-the-art GPU hardware every year just to be able to run your project!

Christopher, there are plenty of low cost options for running GPUGRID if you really want to. I recently bought a b-stock GTX275 SC from EVGA for < $150 shipped. Damn thing gets ~100K/day as long as my network's not futzing out. I've seen GTX260s on e-bay for as little as $40, and they're good for 45-50K/day (maybe more).

My point is that with a little looking, one doesn't have to spend much at all to volunteer here.

But if you're just dead set on running AMD and nothing else, I'm afraid you're going to have to be a little more patient.

Cheers!

Big Question at the Projectteam here:

Did you test AMD APP SDK with FFToptimized API ( http://developer.amd.com/libraries/appmathlibs/Pages/default.aspx )

AMDs current GPUs should crunsh nVIDIA without any problems like they do on:
- Collatz
- Milkyway
- POEM
- Einstein@Home Beta called Albert@Home

By the way if OpenCL is the problem - use the working one : CAL

It would be easier if you would allow external developer so people like Gipsel could help ...

Or Timo from POEM since he got the application running with OpenCL.

Cite from another thread:

GDF wrote:

If all goes well, there are good chances that we will be able to provide a new AMD application very soon for all type of cards which are supporting OpenCL, not only GCN. We are already testing now.

I'll keep you posted by the end of the next week.

MrS

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If you have an ATI card please attach to this satellite project of gpugrid.
http://donateathome.org

gdf

You've been serious about this, haven't you? ;)

MrS

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It's a nice idea, but I'd rather donate my GPU resources in a more "scientific" way through GPUGRID.
I'll run other projects (Milkyway, POEM) on my 7970 until GPUGRID is ready.

For me the bitcoin network is an impressive idea. Read about it:
http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

I understand that somebody might want to do scientific calculations instead, that's why we kept it separate. So you can choose to participate. It's very different from molecular simulations of course.

gdf

I'll give it a try.
There are still bugs in the other projects that refrain me from running them 24/7 so it can't hurt.

For me the bitcoin network is an impressive idea. Read about it:
http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

I understand that somebody might want to do scientific calculations instead, that's why we kept it separate. So you can choose to participate. It's very different from molecular simulations of course.

gdf

But the Project it's self say's you won't be getting any Bitcoin's ... Also other than saying it gives BOINC Credits no where at or on the Site does anything indicate it's a BOINC Project, at least I couldn't find anything ...

What is donate@home?

Your compute time will support science and at the same time participate to the bitcoin experiment. You don’t gain bitcoins in this project. You do receive BOINC credits which have only a symbolic value of your participation. So, the only reason to participate is to make a difference, nothing else is gained. You might also want to volunteer your computing time to do scientific calculations, then give a look at gpugrid.net

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HI Steve. We will add that this is using BOINC.
I did not understand your first point.
thanks

If I understand correctly this is just a testing phase to get the project started.
I don't think they will actually get BitCoins until the bugs are ironed out (I could be wrong).

HI Steve. We will add that this is using BOINC.
I did not understand your first point.
thanks

The Project says:

You don’t gain bitcoins in this project.

was my 1'st point. Maybe the GPUGrid Project gets the BitCoins ??? but from what I read the Participants don't. Not that that bothers me as I don't have anything to do with BitCoins anyway, at least not at this time anyway ...

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Keeps telling me I'm using the wrong url even though I've tried the proper one 3 times ...

PBOYZTOY16 Donate@Home 2/8/2012 5:09:34 PM You used the wrong URL for this project. When convenient, remove this project, then add http://donateathome.org/

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STE\/E

yes the right url is
http://donateathome.org

gdf

no comment

GDF, why don't you give away resources of people, who came here to crunch for science, to render commercial graphics? it will bring you even more money, and stable payouts

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Sounds fishy. Somehow feels like a scam. Didn't expect this from medical boinc project. I think i will quit gpugrid and move to other projects untill they too start to try make money out of crunching power.

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