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Message 13803 - Posted: 6 Dec 2009, 0:09:03 UTC - in response to Message 13802.  

Despite credits GPU-Grid has one major advantage compared to both other BOINC projects for ATI: it's got a reliable server and enough work. If MW and Collatz were running fine, they'd offer enough work as well.. but for now MW still crashes rather often and when ever this happens the Collatz server is brought to its knees. GPU-Grid could bring some balance to the force ;)

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I agree, Collatz has been down for about 2 Days now so I'm forced to run Milkyway which I don't particularly like to do anymore because I have to Babysit my Box's to much to keep an eye out for VPU Errors which I don't get running Collatz. So having a Third Option here at GPUGrid will be most welcome even if it doesn't Pay as much as Collatz or Milkyway ...
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Message 13814 - Posted: 6 Dec 2009, 22:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 13803.  

Agreed. I have my old 9800 GTX+ on this, but I would really like to use my 5870 on a project that will do mankind some real good. I like MW and all, I think it's neat, but well, you know. F@H still hasn't updated their ATI app to work properly with them either, so not a lot of options out there for us ATI primary crunchers.
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Message 13853 - Posted: 9 Dec 2009, 15:25:24 UTC

I am looking forward to this. I'll pull the trigger on some 5870s as soon as they work on the Grid. They are still hard to find but that should improve too.

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Message 13914 - Posted: 13 Dec 2009, 20:30:19 UTC

Any update? I'm looking to get some 5870s. I won't do it unless they can contribute here.

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Message 13917 - Posted: 14 Dec 2009, 7:04:36 UTC - in response to Message 13915.  
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Duplicate post. Don't see how to delete it...

Any update? I'm looking to get some 5870s. I won't do it unless they can contribute here.

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I haven't found any way to completely delete a post on GPUGRID, but for perhaps an hour after you post it you can edit the duplicate down to just one line:

(duplicate)

Also, once you've done that to two different posts, a duplicate post detector program (probably) will be able to detect two different posts from you with the same contents, and delete the second one for you. If the duplicate post detector is also able to do this for normal length posts, that's new enough I haven't seen it happen before.


I'm still trying to find out what recommended Nvidia boards or ATI boards will fit either of my desktops by some means other than paying for both the boards and the service of installing them before finding out if they will fit at all; that still appears to be the best method available locally. I'm no longer able to handle the installation work by myself.
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Message 13921 - Posted: 14 Dec 2009, 9:52:20 UTC - in response to Message 13917.  

We are working on the code to get it faster on ATI and Nvidia. My impression is that the G300 will be faster, but it still early to say it.
We expect to have something new by the time ATI releases a new version of the OpenCL SDK. Probably in January.


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Message 13946 - Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 13:48:39 UTC - in response to Message 13917.  

I'm still trying to find out what recommended Nvidia boards or ATI boards will fit either of my desktops by some means other than paying for both the boards and the service of installing them before finding out if they will fit at all; that still appears to be the best method available locally. I'm no longer able to handle the installation work by myself.


What cases/ cards are you thinking about?
We should be able to determine from specs on the cases and the cards if they will fit and we can also see if we can find someone who has already tried the same case/ card configuration to confirm.
Thanks - Steve
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Message 13962 - Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 6:08:54 UTC

Thx GDF. Will be standing by.

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Message 13972 - Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 18:18:24 UTC - in response to Message 13753.  

We could not find a 5870, but we got a 5850 that should be good enough.
I have just installed now, removing the old 8800gt.

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it could be useful for you to have a computer (Q6600 + ATI5970) in remote control (LogMeIn or something else) to make your tests ?
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Message 13973 - Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 19:03:36 UTC

Hi to everyone,

I've a system that could be useful to test an ATI GPU client.

OS: Ubuntu 9.04 64 Bit
MObo : DFI Lanparty DK-790FXB M2RSH
Mem: 4.096 Gb DDR2
CPU: Phenom II 955 BE 3.2 Ghz
GPUs: 2 x ATI RADEON HD 4870 1GB GDDR5 (Vendor: PALIT) CROSSFIRE X activated
DRIVES : fglrx 9.8 Catalyst

If could it be usefull...
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Message 13981 - Posted: 18 Dec 2009, 9:40:32 UTC - in response to Message 13972.  

Yes, your system could be useful. The 4xxx no, they cannot be supported.
Is it on Linux?

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We could not find a 5870, but we got a 5850 that should be good enough.
I have just installed now, removing the old 8800gt.

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it could be useful for you to have a computer (Q6600 + ATI5970) in remote control (LogMeIn or something else) to make your tests ?

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Message 13983 - Posted: 18 Dec 2009, 12:42:08 UTC - in response to Message 13981.  

Currently only Win XP32 is installed, computer is clean, used only for crunching.
I can install Linux Ubuntu 64bit in dual boot if you need it (or clean install), but you have to tell me which remote control software you prefer (I don't think LogMeIn works on Linux).

please wait till monday till I'll be back to home

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Yes, your system could be useful. The 4xxx no, they cannot be supported.
Is it on Linux?

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it could be useful for you to have a computer (Q6600 + ATI5970) in remote control (LogMeIn or something else) to make your tests ?


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Message 13990 - Posted: 19 Dec 2009, 6:31:21 UTC
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Where are the files for the ATI version ?
Could You add an access point ON the internet page for ATI card ?
I have an 4850, the latest ATI Drivers 9.12 Vista 64bits with OPENCL, so it ould be possible to use these HD48x board to crunch you ATI version Of gpugrid.
BOINC 6.10.24.. I dont found your ati soft to test it with this release of drivers.
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Message 13992 - Posted: 19 Dec 2009, 11:00:05 UTC - in response to Message 13990.  


Hello,

I wonder if the 5770 would be usefull when the new app is available.

Those cards are *cheap*, easy to find, but....... simple precision :(

thanks
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Message 13993 - Posted: 19 Dec 2009, 14:32:32 UTC - in response to Message 13992.  
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Hi all,
I have an ATI Radeon HD 5770, I would also like to know if that card will be supported.
I was quite shocked when I found out that my new bought card couldn´t do DP. At this moment I can only crunch Collatz C, but I would like to donate my Computing power to something usefull :D.
I think this card would be very usefull, because the power is pretty good: Collatz C: ~750 Credits / 14min = ~77k Credits / 24h.
I could also do alpha testing for you, if it´s not to complicated.

My System:
    Intel Core i7 860
    Asus P7P55D
    8GB G.Skill Ripsaw DDR3 1333
    Powercolor Radeon HD 5770
    500 GB Samsung F2
    beQiuet Straight Power 400W
    Windows 7 Professional 64 bit


Too much detail, but I´m proud of my self assembled system :D.

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Message 13995 - Posted: 19 Dec 2009, 17:24:43 UTC - in response to Message 13993.  

Cool system, but your power supply unit looks a bit weak to me!

If you use that GPU close to its full potential your system will melt.

For that GPU I would reccomend a 700W or better PSU, with high AMPs on the 12V rail.
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Message 13999 - Posted: 20 Dec 2009, 0:58:41 UTC - in response to Message 13995.  

...your system will melt.
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I have a i7 x3440 @ 3100
P55 motherborad, 4 Gb Ripsaw, 1 disk
HD 5770

my system pulls 230 W from the plug (wattmeter)

So a 400 W PSU will be OK but not quiet.


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Message 14000 - Posted: 20 Dec 2009, 2:17:39 UTC - in response to Message 13995.  

The powersupply is perfect for this system:
CPU: max 95 Watt
GPU: max 100 Watt
I don´t know how much power the other parts of the system need, but I think the overall max. usage is 300 Watt, but definatelly nowhere near 400 Watts.
Is there any software, which shows the power consumption of the whole system?
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Message 14003 - Posted: 20 Dec 2009, 14:56:34 UTC - in response to Message 13999.  
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OK, you are sort of correct, but missed my somewhat hidden point.
Yes, you are using the P55 board, which consumes a lot less power, and the i7 CPU for that board is also much more energy efficient. So the PSU will give you enough Watts.

However, the problem is Not the Power (Watts), its the Amps feeding the GPU, and medium range PSUs don’t have the Amps.
I know the HD 5770 only uses 108W max, but the recommended PSU is at least 500W, and some people suggest you need a PSU capable of 40A on the 12Vold rail.
If you are using 2 cards you will need 55A.
Try looking for a 500W PSU with 40A on the 12V rail - you wont find too many!
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-in-3way-crossfirex-review-test/3
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Message 14005 - Posted: 20 Dec 2009, 16:35:43 UTC - in response to Message 14003.  
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OK, good to know.
The configurator on the beQuiet homepage recommended me the 400W PSU.
The manual says: 3 x 12V 18A, and 30A max.
Which problems could occur? I have run GPU Computing in BOINC for more than 24 hours and played graphics intensive games, no problems so far.
Well, it´s too late anyway, I don´t want to spend more money on my system.
As long as I don´t come across any problems with the PSU, I´ll keep it.

PS: When I play games with boinc coputing on the GPU in the background, the graphics driver will fail and restart, but I don´t think it´s the fault of the PSU, but rather that games and GPGPU don´t like each other yet.
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