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Message 13548 - Posted: 14 Nov 2009, 15:47:12 UTC

I have 15 Box's, all have Quad Cores in them 6600 - 6700 - 9450 Variity & 1 i7 920 ... All the Box's have Gigabyte DQ6's of Various Models as they came out DQ6 - X38 DQ6's - and a X58 Extreme for the i7 ...
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Message 13551 - Posted: 14 Nov 2009, 17:03:15 UTC
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Ok, well, this particular person determined their issue to be how they plugged up their psu:

Post #51

So, that's something to keep in mind...
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Message 13565 - Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 19:48:17 UTC - in response to Message 13538.  

FFT will not be a problem at first.
We have implemented an alternative algorithm which will be fine to run several types of WUs and we still have Nvidia for the WUs which require FFT.

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how much work in the WU's is fft's? they run quite fast from what i have seen on ATi cards, like video transcoding. it almost seems like their architecture is designed for signal processing rather than graphics. i saw an AMD slideshow that had an optimized fft running at 300 GFLOPs on a 4870. thats with LDS too.
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Message 13566 - Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 20:07:50 UTC - in response to Message 13565.  
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The ffts take something like 20% of the time, but they are many short FFTs.
I am not sure if there are FFTs libs for ATI which can run with the openCL environment. Maybe Gipsel can tell us something.

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Message 13574 - Posted: 16 Nov 2009, 11:01:04 UTC - in response to Message 13566.  

The ffts take something like 20% of the time, but they are many short FFTs.
I am not sure if there are FFTs libs for ATI which can run with the openCL environment. Maybe Gipsel can tell us something.

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maybe you could find something interesting going on here
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=102635
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Message 13615 - Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 11:51:55 UTC - in response to Message 13574.  

We are still waiting for the 5870 to come. Sorry for the delay.

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Message 13617 - Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 13:28:15 UTC - in response to Message 13615.  

We are still waiting for the 5870 to come. Sorry for the delay.

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Sounds Goods. For me, everything is in house and operational, except Win7. It should be here Tues, then it's time to wipe some HDs and see about the clean installs from the upgrade disk....

In the mean time, with MW being down, it looks like we're going to melt the Collatz server to the floor.....LMAO ;)
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Message 13618 - Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 14:49:21 UTC - in response to Message 13615.  
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We are still waiting for the 5870 to come. Sorry for the delay.

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I'll send 1 of mine if it will help you, PM me if you want to go that way, of course you would have to send it back ... I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ??? Hopefully this Project can keep them busier than the other 2 Projects can ...

PS: Right now the 5870's & 5850's are now where to be had, and with the release of the 5970 the 5850's will even be harder to come by ... IMO
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Message 13637 - Posted: 21 Nov 2009, 12:42:03 UTC

But there are WU for ATI?
I updated beta drivers + OpenCL as requested, I checked in the project options to accept WU beta, but does not download anything and the server continues to give me the error that I have an NVIDIA GPU.
I forgot something?

Excuse my English but I used the google translator to write my message from my mother tongue is Italian.

Thank you all for your reply.
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Message 13638 - Posted: 21 Nov 2009, 17:16:32 UTC
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I updated beta drivers + OpenCL SDK as requested

Starting BOINC client version 6.10.19 for windows_x86_64
ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD5700 series (Juniper) (CAL version 1.4.467, 1024MB, 1360 GFLOPS peak)
OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, (06.01.7600.00)
Message from server: No work sent
Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
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Message 13647 - Posted: 22 Nov 2009, 8:43:03 UTC

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I use my 5870 under Win7 X64 since early October, running Collatz and MilkyWay. If you need somebody more to test your ATI version just let me know.
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Message 13651 - Posted: 22 Nov 2009, 15:37:02 UTC - in response to Message 13618.  

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...I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ???


You could use them on Folding@home

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Message 13652 - Posted: 22 Nov 2009, 16:42:53 UTC - in response to Message 13651.  

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...I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ???


You could use them on Folding@home




If that's true--I would like to know. My understanding is that everyone is waiting on the release of GPU3. ???
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Message 13655 - Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 2:12:46 UTC - in response to Message 13651.  

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...I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ???


You could use them on Folding@home



I only run the BOINC Projects, they'll sit Idle before I run Folding@home ...
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Message 13657 - Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 5:09:39 UTC - in response to Message 13652.  

There is a client for ATI F@H but it currently does not produce as well as Nvidia cards do.
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Message 13663 - Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 15:36:00 UTC - in response to Message 13657.  

For me Folding@home is better than doing nothing, but that is my preference and your quite intitled to yours.

I dont know much about the Folding@home's productivity, performance or program, but I do know that it works on many ATI and NVIDIA cards. It is a very well supported project (1.3 million cards have been attached at some time or other) even if you think it is not as relatively productive as GPUGRID.

I have hooked up some Nvidia cards in the past and the one big ATI card (4850) runs it most of the time. My Nvidia cards now all work for GPUGrid. I know from experience that the Nvidia cards cannot work on folding@home and on GPUGrid, and it’s the GPUGrid tasks that crash (usually time out).

From what I gather, the newer ATI cards will eventually be brought on board here, but it does not look like that will include my HD 4850. Perhaps next year there will be tasks for ATI 5800 series cards here on GPUGrid. Presently GPUGrid is in an, all your eggs in the one basket, situation. Given that production of top end NVidia cards has stopped, bringing in ATI support is a good thing. Who knows what the future of NVidia is WRT top end cards – 5850 and 5870 cards are here but there is no G300 yet. The rains might have come every year for the last 5, but that does not mean they will come next year!
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Message 13669 - Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 21:19:20 UTC - in response to Message 13663.  

Given that production of top end NVidia cards has stopped, bringing in ATI support is a good thing.


Such fundamental software design decisions shouldn't be based on temporary circumstances such as yield and capacity problems at a foundry. Give it a couple of months and Fermi will be here (just not that many). And it will be one large, expensive power hungry performance beast. But there'll also be its smaller siblings with more sane transistor counts.

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Message 13670 - Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 22:19:06 UTC - in response to Message 13655.  

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...I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ???


You could use them on Folding@home



I only run the BOINC Projects, they'll sit Idle before I run Folding@home ...


Collatz & Milkyway are both up and running. I keep looking her for a ATI app, but it don't look like you will be supporting my 4850 at this time.
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Message 13671 - Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 22:33:20 UTC - in response to Message 13670.  

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...I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ???


You could use them on Folding@home



I only run the BOINC Projects, they'll sit Idle before I run Folding@home ...


Collatz & Milkyway are both up and running. I keep looking her for a ATI app, but it don't look like you will be supporting my 4850 at this time.

I was hoping to get a 3rd ATI project for my HD4850 as well. :-)
Greetings from Cori
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Message 13675 - Posted: 24 Nov 2009, 5:11:22 UTC - in response to Message 13671.  

from what we have seen the performance on the HD4xxx series is very very slow.
So it is runs but very slow. The ATI openCL emulates the shared memory via global memory. At this point they are so slow that it is likely that we will restrict to HD5xxx cards.

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