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Message 11745 - Posted: 9 Aug 2009, 8:46:28 UTC
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Before the end of the month, we will try to see if cuda2.3 fixes some outstanding fft bug that people with gtx260 are experiencing.

Internal tests showed that it could be the case, but then everyone must run on 190.xx drivers.

No schedule for the change yet.

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Message 11801 - Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 7:38:49 UTC - in response to Message 11745.  

That would be great!
Can't crunch GPUGRID anymore on my GTX260 since you switched to CUDA 2.2...

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Message 11826 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009, 3:47:43 UTC - in response to Message 11745.  

Before the end of the month, we will try to see if cuda2.3 fixes some outstanding fft bug that people with gtx260 are experiencing.

Internal tests showed that it could be the case, but then everyone must run on 190.xx drivers.

No schedule for the change yet.

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HMM, SEEING HOW MY GTX 260 CRUNCHES FINE... With

System..

Vista 32-bit SP2
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BFG GTX 216 FOC 216 cores.


I've noticed lately that a lot of the evga cards have something bad in-relation to driver 190.38...

granted about a month or 2 ago, i had wu's erring out but i attribute that to Aqua Cuda wu's...
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Message 11844 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009, 16:34:32 UTC

I'll wait for it! GTX260 from Gigabyte (192 cores) can't process gpugrid's Wus on x64 system.

But with this bug I have crunched few SETI cuda WUs and found a "Collatz Conjecture" project to make my gpu not be idle... :-)
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Message 11849 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009, 17:55:05 UTC

Always me with one GTX 260+ + 8800 GT on vista 64 and boinc 6.6.36

I try 190.38 driver. And I have always errors. The sames since driver superior than 182.5.
With 182.5 my two graphics cards works well.

Why why why....
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Message 11850 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009, 18:17:00 UTC

My WUs don't complete in 24h anymore,
are the new WUs longer or is the app slower or is it my computer?
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Message 11863 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009, 23:44:35 UTC - in response to Message 11849.  

Always me with one GTX 260+ + 8800 GT on vista 64 and boinc 6.6.36

I try 190.38 driver. And I have always errors. The sames since driver superior than 182.5.
With 182.5 my two graphics cards works well.

Why why why....


Try using CUDA 2.3 and the 190.38 driver!
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Message 11900 - Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 10:05:32 UTC

Hi,
for a couple of months i had no problems with boinc, Seti, Gpugrid and vista64. But when i came back from vacation a week ago, something strange happened. Windows did a lot of updates and the graphic-driver (?) reports, that a reset was necessary. A running gpugrid-wu reports an error. Most seti-wu work, but not all. This driver-reset happens 3 or 4 times a day.
I updated to the latest nvidia-drivers and BOINC and tried to understand, what other boinc-users report about ther problems. I've seen, that the GT260 seems to have a problem, but i do not understand all the other post about SDK, upcoming versions aso.
I would be really happy, if anyone could explain, what happend and which solutions are available in words, that are understandable for non-DSK users and people, who do not think, that running BOINC is the primary goal for a computer.
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Message 11907 - Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 20:09:11 UTC - in response to Message 11863.  
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Surely I have cuda 2.3

And I have always the same errors like other drivers sup than 182.5 ---->
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_1 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_2 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_3 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent

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Message 11908 - Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 20:50:59 UTC - in response to Message 11907.  

the fact that you install the 2.3 toolkit is irrelevant.
You are still using the 2.2 runtime that we distribute.

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Message 11909 - Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 22:05:36 UTC

And Why I have always this message ?


With 182.5 I crunch witout pb. with other driver it's catastrophe. all wus crash
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Message 11910 - Posted: 15 Aug 2009, 5:43:15 UTC - in response to Message 11907.  

Surely I have cuda 2.3

And I have always the same errors like other drivers sup than 182.5 ---->
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_1 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_2 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_3 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent


Each project distributes the cuda runtime and FFT libraries. CUDART.DLL is the runtime and CUFFT.DLL is the FFT one. They put them into their BOINC project folder. This way its possible to have a different set of files for each project. Provided the driver you run can support the later DLL's it usually works.

The cuda toolkit has no bearing on any of this, unless you want to develop your own application. Its not needed. The project supply all the stuff need to run their science application.

The GPUgrid app seems to have particular problems with GTX260 cards. Driver 182.50 worked, but its only cuda 2.1 capable. GPUgrid have moved onto a cuda 2.2 app which means you'll need a minimum driver version of 185.x. The 190.38 driver supports cuda 2.3 as well as the older cuda versions, but as I said GPUgrid has particular problems with GTX260 cards. Why? Well if they knew that they would probably be able to work around it.

And before you think about putting the cuda 2.3 DLL's into the GPUgrid projects folder it won't work. BOINC keeps a signature of the file so it knows if its different to the one supplied by the project. There is a way around this using an app_info, but it takes a bit of expertise to create one.
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Message 11912 - Posted: 15 Aug 2009, 6:42:46 UTC

There is a lot of mess happening to my systems also...
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a lot of units fails now although (especially on the 9600gt) it worked flawless before. will got to nnw for gpugrid, try collatz

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Message 11914 - Posted: 15 Aug 2009, 12:10:00 UTC

Werkstatt / Alex,

sorry, currently there's not much you can do. Nevermind the talk about the toolit / SDK, it doesn't make a difference. You can try downgrading to drivers 185.xx or 186.18, but in many cases this has not helped.

Formulaman,

which errors do you get? Your computers are hidden, so we can't take a look.

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Message 11924 - Posted: 15 Aug 2009, 20:11:50 UTC - in response to Message 11850.  

My WUs don't complete in 24h anymore,
are the new WUs longer or is the app slower or is it my computer?


One thing I've seen is the card dropping to 2d clocks check your card clockspeed and if need be force 3d in riva
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Message 11963 - Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 2:39:11 UTC

Well, is there any progress with cuda 2.3? When we will be able to start crunch again with our 260s? :-)
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Message 11973 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009, 16:45:01 UTC - in response to Message 11963.  

We have now selectively assigning a cuda2.3 application to people with a 190 driver only. This is a test. We keep it on if it does not give problems.
It should be transparent to older driver users.

You need a recent BOINC version to receive the new application.
Only for Windows so far.

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Message 11975 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009, 17:10:16 UTC - in response to Message 11973.  

Recent as "6.6.x"?

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Message 11976 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009, 17:29:24 UTC - in response to Message 11975.  
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I'll grab one and check it out.

vista 32-bit, gtx 260. 190.38

edit: it's running.....
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Message 11977 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009, 17:30:21 UTC - in response to Message 11975.  
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The client needs to be able to report the driver version.
If in your host list you see the driver version, then you are probably fine, otherwise you would just receive the 2.2 application.

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