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Message 577 - Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 12:42:51 UTC

I had my PS3 at least attempting to boot from USB stick the other day, but the newest firmware 2.10, which I installed last night, goes as far as turning off the lit (active) USB drive just as it boots, and the otheros.bld file you have us install sits there, and doesn\'t even bring kboot up at all.

Thanks, Sony... for nothing.
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Message 579 - Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 16:27:05 UTC - in response to Message 577.  

I had my PS3 at least attempting to boot from USB stick the other day, but the newest firmware 2.10, which I installed last night, goes as far as turning off the lit (active) USB drive just as it boots, and the otheros.bld file you have us install sits there, and doesn\'t even bring kboot up at all.

Thanks, Sony... for nothing.



We have had some problems with 2.01, but it did boot. Do you have 2.1 or 2.01?


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Message 581 - Posted: 18 Dec 2007, 20:52:31 UTC
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Same over here: installed 2.10...and PS3GRID won\'t start. Seems like I have to do the complete installation of Linux...
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Message 583 - Posted: 19 Dec 2007, 3:45:14 UTC - in response to Message 581.  

Same over here: installed 2.10...and PS3GRID won\'t start. Seems like I have to do the complete installation of Linux...

I would much rather that we express our immense disdain to Sony directly. It was silly of them to make the machine switch off the USB sticks as the boot loader loads when under \"boot other OS\", as they shouldn\'t even care.

I also have found that my PSP is no longer recognizable under Vista, since its last firmware update. They got some real dopes working over there.

\"Give us your money...\" \"Oh, BTW, we disabled many of the functions you previously enjoyed...\" Thanks a lot, Sony! NOT!
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Message 584 - Posted: 19 Dec 2007, 3:51:30 UTC - in response to Message 579.  

I had my PS3 at least attempting to boot from USB stick the other day, but the newest firmware 2.10, which I installed last night, goes as far as turning off the lit (active) USB drive just as it boots, and the otheros.bld file you have us install sits there, and doesn\'t even bring kboot up at all.

Thanks, Sony... for nothing.



We have had some problems with 2.01, but it did boot. Do you have 2.1 or 2.01?


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I just loaded 2.10 last night. I had problems with 2.01 as well (my GRID debut was a couple days ago). It saw the stick, but the only tab selections were \"Linux\" and \"old\", which were from the first partition of my HD, but even they would not load from your boot loader. After loading the graphical boot loader I used to use, at least I got my HD install functions back.

I\'ll have to hunt up the GRID files for that to run from within one of the installed distros I have in place. I was so wanting to have a USB bootable system, because that opens up a LOT of live distro experimentation. Maybe we can convince them to put things back the way they were. It is almost as if they are toying with their entire customer base, like it is some game. I find it more than a bit annoying.
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Message 586 - Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 11:27:36 UTC - in response to Message 584.  

I had my PS3 at least attempting to boot from USB stick the other day, but the newest firmware 2.10, which I installed last night, goes as far as turning off the lit (active) USB drive just as it boots, and the otheros.bld file you have us install sits there, and doesn\'t even bring kboot up at all.

Thanks, Sony... for nothing.



We have had some problems with 2.01, but it did boot. Do you have 2.1 or 2.01?


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I just loaded 2.10 last night. I had problems with 2.01 as well (my GRID debut was a couple days ago). It saw the stick, but the only tab selections were \"Linux\" and \"old\", which were from the first partition of my HD, but even they would not load from your boot loader. After loading the graphical boot loader I used to use, at least I got my HD install functions back.

I\'ll have to hunt up the GRID files for that to run from within one of the installed distros I have in place. I was so wanting to have a USB bootable system, because that opens up a LOT of live distro experimentation. Maybe we can convince them to put things back the way they were. It is almost as if they are toying with their entire customer base, like it is some game. I find it more than a bit annoying.


Just to add to this - I just updated to 2.10 from 2.01 and now I can no longer boot from the USB stick grrr. Is there a way around this?
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Message 587 - Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 14:25:56 UTC

It would be good if some of those that have experiemnced this problem, to bring it to the attention of Sony Playstation developers.

See this blog at http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/12/17/firmware-update-v210/

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Message 588 - Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 18:35:09 UTC - in response to Message 587.  

It would be good if some of those that have experiemnced this problem, to bring it to the attention of Sony Playstation developers.

See this blog at http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/12/17/firmware-update-v210/

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I had the same problem but found another otheros.bld on the web and installed that. Linux is running off the usb stick but i\'m not sure if its using the 6 spe\'s as well as the 2 ppe\'s.

I\'ll try to post a link to it later and let you decide


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Message 589 - Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 20:45:54 UTC

Has anyone with this problem tried to re-install the other-os as in step 4 on the directions. It seems like to me that when upgrading the firmware to 2.10 it is clearing the other-os configuration in some way.
When Shaggy installed a different other-os it went abck to working, I think a re-install of the correct other-os might have the same effect, but I make no guaranetees, just a thought.
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Message 590 - Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 22:53:22 UTC - in response to Message 589.  

Has anyone with this problem tried to re-install the other-os as in step 4 on the directions. It seems like to me that when upgrading the firmware to 2.10 it is clearing the other-os configuration in some way.
When Shaggy installed a different other-os it went abck to working, I think a re-install of the correct other-os might have the same effect, but I make no guaranetees, just a thought.


Yes I\'ve reinstalled Linux as per the instructions and no joy.
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Message 591 - Posted: 21 Dec 2007, 0:38:47 UTC - in response to Message 590.  

Has anyone with this problem tried to re-install the other-os as in step 4 on the directions. It seems like to me that when upgrading the firmware to 2.10 it is clearing the other-os configuration in some way.
When Shaggy installed a different other-os it went abck to working, I think a re-install of the correct other-os might have the same effect, but I make no guaranetees, just a thought.


Yes I\'ve reinstalled Linux as per the instructions and no joy.


I\'ve tried various otheros.bld\'s and it seems only a \'standard\'one will allow linux off a usb stick but it crunch\'s very slow. Other bootloaders either do not start or will not see the usb stick at the kboot prompt.

Oh well time for a partition and an install of gentoo linux.

I think Sony have beefed up security as some people were gaining access to the RSX chip through linux and this may lead to firmware cracks eventually so Sony have locked up the system a bit.

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Message 592 - Posted: 21 Dec 2007, 1:12:32 UTC - in response to Message 588.  

It would be good if some of those that have experiemnced this problem, to bring it to the attention of Sony Playstation developers.

See this blog at http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/12/17/firmware-update-v210/

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I had the same problem but found another otheros.bld on the web and installed that. Linux is running off the usb stick but i\'m not sure if its using the 6 spe\'s as well as the 2 ppe\'s.

I\'ll try to post a link to it later and let you decide


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Cute. You\'ll TRY to post a link to it?
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Message 593 - Posted: 21 Dec 2007, 1:16:16 UTC - in response to Message 589.  

Has anyone with this problem tried to re-install the other-os as in step 4 on the directions. It seems like to me that when upgrading the firmware to 2.10 it is clearing the other-os configuration in some way.
When Shaggy installed a different other-os it went abck to working, I think a re-install of the correct other-os might have the same effect, but I make no guaranetees, just a thought.

Mine had no change in failed behavior upon re-installing a previously USB aware otheros.bld. I was only able to get an otheros.bld file that looks at HD partitions to work, and then only for HD partitions, as I stated.
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Message 596 - Posted: 21 Dec 2007, 13:21:29 UTC - in response to Message 592.  

It would be good if some of those that have experiemnced this problem, to bring it to the attention of Sony Playstation developers.

See this blog at http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/12/17/firmware-update-v210/

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I had the same problem but found another otheros.bld on the web and installed that. Linux is running off the usb stick but i\'m not sure if its using the 6 spe\'s as well as the 2 ppe\'s.

I\'ll try to post a link to it later and let you decide


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Cute. You\'ll TRY to post a link to it?


I said i\'d try but it would mean tracking down where i got it from and then posting the link here and i\'m not sure how much time i have to do these things.

As it is the otheros.bld that i used did boot from usb but it took 8 hours to process 3% at which point i stopped and started looking for another file.
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Message 600 - Posted: 21 Dec 2007, 16:19:04 UTC - in response to Message 596.  

otheros.bld should affect performance. If it boots then it should be fine. We will be unable to do serious testing until after holidays unfortunately.

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Message 601 - Posted: 21 Dec 2007, 22:12:17 UTC - in response to Message 600.  
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otheros.bld should affect performance. If it boots then it should be fine. We will be unable to do serious testing until after holidays unfortunately.

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However, I would think that if there is a problem, it is fixable easily.

Can anyone reports problems booting with 2.10? Were they fixed by reinstalling a new boot loader or the same as suggested in this thread?
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Message 603 - Posted: 22 Dec 2007, 10:06:09 UTC - in response to Message 601.  

otheros.bld should affect performance. If it boots then it should be fine. We will be unable to do serious testing until after holidays unfortunately.

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However, I would think that if there is a problem, it is fixable easily.

Can anyone reports problems booting with 2.10? Were they fixed by reinstalling a new boot loader or the same as suggested in this thread?
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Tried the linked otheros.bld and got the same result. Think I will just do a normal YDL install on the hdd and be done with it.
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Message 604 - Posted: 22 Dec 2007, 10:12:41 UTC - in response to Message 603.  
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Coud you try to use this one here?
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/geoff/cell/CELL-Linux-CL_20071220-ADDON/PS3/otheros/

Apparently, in 2.10 there was a change in the framebuffer so the display does not work with previous otheros.bld.

If it works we will update the pen drive.

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Message 605 - Posted: 22 Dec 2007, 10:42:53 UTC - in response to Message 604.  

Coud you try to use this one here?
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/geoff/cell/CELL-Linux-CL_20071220-ADDON/PS3/otheros/

Apparently, in 2.10 there was a change in the framebuffer so the display does not work with previous otheros.bld.

If it works we will update the pen drive.

Thanks


Success!!!

Thanks for sorting this out and Merry Christmas!
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Message 606 - Posted: 23 Dec 2007, 22:06:51 UTC - in response to Message 605.  

Coud you try to use this one here?
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/geoff/cell/CELL-Linux-CL_20071220-ADDON/PS3/otheros/

Apparently, in 2.10 there was a change in the framebuffer so the display does not work with previous otheros.bld.

If it works we will update the pen drive.

Thanks


Success!!!

Thanks for sorting this out and Merry Christmas!


Perhaps for you. It still does not work for a machine that has a Linux install on the HD. The only thing the otheros.bld file points at is the HD, and the tab key only shows that partition. So what is needed is the boot string required to boot from sda1, which is the device assigned to my USB drive. That boot string MIGHT point to the USB drive, which is now at least turned on. All folks garnering success from this otheros.bld file must not have any Linux on their HD. Still no worky here.
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