PhysX or No PhysX?

Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : PhysX or No PhysX?
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

AuthorMessage
naja002
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Sep 08
Posts: 111
Credit: 10,352,599
RAC: 0
Level
Pro
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 9076 - Posted: 28 Apr 2009, 16:07:06 UTC

Sorry, but I'm not sure that I've found an answer to this one....IIRC, it's No...., but:

Does PhysX have any benefit strictly for crunching?

Thanx!
ID: 9076 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
aka1nas

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 09
Posts: 7
Credit: 612,049
RAC: 0
Level
Gly
Scientific publications
watwat
Message 9080 - Posted: 28 Apr 2009, 17:28:50 UTC - in response to Message 9076.  

PhysX is CUDA-powered now. So it's just another CUDA application using your GPU like GPUGrid.net and the SETI CUDA client.
ID: 9080 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
naja002
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Sep 08
Posts: 111
Credit: 10,352,599
RAC: 0
Level
Pro
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 9094 - Posted: 29 Apr 2009, 0:43:10 UTC

Ok, Thanx, it's turned off, but I wanted to try to get some kind of straight answer....

Thanx!
ID: 9094 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Nognlite

Send message
Joined: 9 Nov 08
Posts: 69
Credit: 25,106,923
RAC: 0
Level
Val
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 9099 - Posted: 29 Apr 2009, 5:52:19 UTC

I have to have PhysX turned on for the 6.5.0 client to see my second card and I have not noticed any drop in performance and no issues at all.

Pat
ID: 9099 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
uBronan
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 1 Feb 09
Posts: 139
Credit: 575,023
RAC: 0
Level
Gly
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwat
Message 9108 - Posted: 29 Apr 2009, 9:08:38 UTC
Last modified: 29 Apr 2009, 9:11:13 UTC

Well if you don't use Physx it does not use anything nor screws up running gpugrid, so it does not matter if it is turned on or off.
But if a Physx process gets started it will mess up the gpugrid calculation.
Although if you look at the nvidia panel the physx demo clearly runs without crashing gpugrid so maybe it is related to the use of memory on the card.
A friend of me had a big physx process running and the unit from gpugrid error out, so now he closes boinc when doing these physx processes.
ID: 9108 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
ExtraTerrestrial Apes
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 17 Aug 08
Posts: 2705
Credit: 1,311,122,549
RAC: 0
Level
Met
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 9118 - Posted: 29 Apr 2009, 19:41:08 UTC - in response to Message 9094.  

but I wanted to try to get some kind of straight answer....


Was his answer (or the following ones) not straight enough?

MrS
Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002
ID: 9118 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
naja002
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Sep 08
Posts: 111
Credit: 10,352,599
RAC: 0
Level
Pro
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 9133 - Posted: 30 Apr 2009, 0:38:37 UTC - in response to Message 9118.  

but I wanted to try to get some kind of straight answer....


Was his answer (or the following ones) not straight enough?

MrS



Yes,it was....read it the other way...lol....I wasn't saying it wasn't straight, sufficient, etc....I was just saying what my intent was with the OP.....not with his response....
ID: 9133 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
ExtraTerrestrial Apes
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 17 Aug 08
Posts: 2705
Credit: 1,311,122,549
RAC: 0
Level
Met
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 9152 - Posted: 30 Apr 2009, 19:38:52 UTC - in response to Message 9133.  

That's why I had to ask ;)

MrS
Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002
ID: 9152 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile JockMacMad TSBT

Send message
Joined: 26 Jan 09
Posts: 31
Credit: 3,877,912
RAC: 0
Level
Ala
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwat
Message 9510 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 9:10:27 UTC - in response to Message 9099.  

For me it has to be enabled or I loose 1 GPU for crunching.
ID: 9510 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
naja002
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Sep 08
Posts: 111
Credit: 10,352,599
RAC: 0
Level
Pro
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 9517 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 10:46:27 UTC - in response to Message 9510.  

For me it has to be enabled or I loose 1 GPU for crunching.

That's very strange from everything I know. Would you care to list your OS, Cpu, MB, cards, etc....?
ID: 9517 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
uBronan
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 1 Feb 09
Posts: 139
Credit: 575,023
RAC: 0
Level
Gly
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwat
Message 9519 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 10:54:07 UTC

Again Physx is only used in some games or applications so it won't mess with the boinc projects as long as you not game or run these apps together with boinc at the same time.
I would not want to game if boinc is running (me wants speed then ;))
So just leave the physx turned on the only thing what messes up is sli which only makes you see 1 card instead of 2 which in fact is what it should do :)
If you don't have another card you can leave that as is also ;)

ID: 9519 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
ExtraTerrestrial Apes
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 17 Aug 08
Posts: 2705
Credit: 1,311,122,549
RAC: 0
Level
Met
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 9551 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 14:55:21 UTC - in response to Message 9517.  
Last modified: 10 May 2009, 8:02:19 UTC

For me it has to be enabled or I loose 1 GPU for crunching.

That's very strange from everything I know. Would you care to list your OS, Cpu, MB, cards, etc....?


This deserves further investigation. Is anyone else seeing such behaviour?

Regarding his specs: Vista x64 SP1, driver 185.68, Core i7 920, 2 x GTX 295, BOINC 6.6.24.

MrS
Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002
ID: 9551 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile JockMacMad TSBT

Send message
Joined: 26 Jan 09
Posts: 31
Credit: 3,877,912
RAC: 0
Level
Ala
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwat
Message 9564 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 21:41:14 UTC - in response to Message 9551.  

Indeed. this has happened since drivers 181.xx and with BOINC's from 6.6.15.
ID: 9564 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Bender10
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 3 Dec 07
Posts: 167
Credit: 8,368,897
RAC: 0
Level
Ser
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 9566 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 22:57:19 UTC - in response to Message 9564.  

I just went through a harrowing couple of hours...I decided to update the driver on my windows box:

XP64
6.5.0
9800GX2
181.22 driver

After the upgrade to 185.85 (I am back to 181.22), I 'lost' a gpu. Only 1 wu would crunch. I finally remembered about PhysX...Some how, my mode changed to 'Enable multi-gpu use' (this must be the Ntune software SLI switch..?) and 'PhysX Enable'. After trying the finite combinations, and dumping the 'in process' wu, I got this:

I had to Disable PhysX and Disable 'Multi-GPU mode', to get the 2nd GPU to run.


Consciousness: That annoying time between naps......

Experience is a wonderful thing: it enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it.
ID: 9566 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote
ExtraTerrestrial Apes
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 17 Aug 08
Posts: 2705
Credit: 1,311,122,549
RAC: 0
Level
Met
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 9576 - Posted: 10 May 2009, 8:04:23 UTC - in response to Message 9566.  

"Multi-GPU mode" is SLI, so it's expected that you have to disable it.

MrS
Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002
ID: 9576 · Rating: 0 · rate: Rate + / Rate - Report as offensive     Reply Quote

Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : PhysX or No PhysX?

©2025 Universitat Pompeu Fabra