Advanced search

Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : Significant slowage

Author Message
Ed1934158
Send message
Joined: 15 Mar 09
Posts: 32
Credit: 3,313,639
RAC: 0
Level
Ala
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 7490 - Posted: 15 Mar 2009 | 19:14:52 UTC

My configuration is:
q6600, 8Gb RAM, nVidia 8600 GT 512Mb.
I run x64 Ubuntu system.
I'm running einstein@home and started running this project.
The problem is that after installing this project my desktop performance has become quite slow. For example if I'm watching a movie it doesn't run smoothly. It is logical that it effects graphics performance, but I was hoping that I wouldn't have problems with ordinary desktop tasks. The project seems to be running well. Is there a solution to this?

Profile Stefan Ledwina
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 16 Jul 07
Posts: 464
Credit: 288,617,006
RAC: 1,969,263
Level
Asn
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 7493 - Posted: 15 Mar 2009 | 19:23:52 UTC - in response to Message 7490.

The only solution would be to suspend GPUGRID while you use your computer, or to get a faster card... ;-)

____________

pixelicious.at - my little photoblog

Profile Zydor
Send message
Joined: 8 Feb 09
Posts: 252
Credit: 1,309,451
RAC: 0
Level
Ala
Scientific publications
watwatwatwat
Message 7494 - Posted: 15 Mar 2009 | 19:44:08 UTC - in response to Message 7490.
Last modified: 15 Mar 2009 | 19:45:34 UTC

8600GT has "only" 32 Shader Units, so performance will be boarderline in the use you have described. You have plenty of memory on the card, but it looks like its being bottlenecked by the (relatively) lowish shader count. The latter will really come into play in a significant way when you play a movie at the same time as GPUGrid. The card has the memory to cope with both (512mb), but its going to crawl trying to cope with the processing requirements of both a movie and a WU at the same time due to the Shader Count.

Whilst ordinarily the following would make no difference where the availability of a wide margin of processing power above needs exists, where its boaderline, small tweeks can make a difference - Try reducing desktop resolution from 32bit to 16bit - less work for the gpu to do. Also make sure your graphics drivers are bang up to date, often new tweeks inside drivers boost their performance in particular scenarios, you might get lucky and hit an update that addresses indirectly your background issue and give a performance increase.

If the latter tweeks dont work, and frankly they probably wont (try it tho - might work for you and save some dosh), then its run one or the other - not both at the same time, or as stated above update the card for a hassle free life :)

Regards
Zy

Ed1934158
Send message
Joined: 15 Mar 09
Posts: 32
Credit: 3,313,639
RAC: 0
Level
Ala
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 7496 - Posted: 15 Mar 2009 | 19:53:34 UTC

Thank you guys. For now I'll have to do it manually and maybe I could go with a better card in a near future. :)

Profile Zydor
Send message
Joined: 8 Feb 09
Posts: 252
Credit: 1,309,451
RAC: 0
Level
Ala
Scientific publications
watwatwatwat
Message 7499 - Posted: 15 Mar 2009 | 20:26:12 UTC - in response to Message 7496.

I note you have 4 downloaded (default as you have 4 cpu). If the time to crunch exceeds the time limit of 4 days for all of them together as a batch due to card performance, abort one or two WUs, as appropriate, to prevent delays in getting a WU result - they will then be reissued straight away to another PC.

When it comes time to redownload new WUs, go into Preferences and set the cache to a fraction of a day, not just the default one day. On my quad Phenom2 9800GTX+, I usually find 0.25 as a cache setting will result in only two being downloaded, bringing it down further if I only want one downloaded.

Experiment by setting it at a really low fraction (0.1 maybe?) and increase the fraction until it gives you a single or two WUs depending what you want - then you know the setting for the future so you are not flooded with WUs that cant be processed in the 4 days time allowed, under the use you put the beast to.

Regards
Zy

Ed1934158
Send message
Joined: 15 Mar 09
Posts: 32
Credit: 3,313,639
RAC: 0
Level
Ala
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 7503 - Posted: 15 Mar 2009 | 21:09:42 UTC - in response to Message 7499.

Ok, thank you. I will do so.

ExtraTerrestrial Apes
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 17 Aug 08
Posts: 2705
Credit: 1,311,122,549
RAC: 0
Level
Met
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 7506 - Posted: 15 Mar 2009 | 21:57:13 UTC

You could try to give the BOINC / GPU-Grid threads a higher nice value, if they're not at maximum already. Not sure how to do this and if it helps, but it's not the amount of work per screen refresh that kills your performance, it's the long time between refreshs (which depends on GPU speed and how often the cpu asks the GPU to calculate the next step).

MrS
____________
Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002

Ed1934158
Send message
Joined: 15 Mar 09
Posts: 32
Credit: 3,313,639
RAC: 0
Level
Ala
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 7534 - Posted: 16 Mar 2009 | 22:30:26 UTC

I've changed the card to 9800 GTX+ 512MB. I can still see the difference, it smaller difference, but when for example I'm watching the movie at fullscreen (1920x1200) it's not as smooth as it's without running gpugrid. Is that normal, or do I need to dig deeper? Can you see and difference?

ExtraTerrestrial Apes
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 17 Aug 08
Posts: 2705
Credit: 1,311,122,549
RAC: 0
Level
Met
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 7536 - Posted: 16 Mar 2009 | 22:48:16 UTC - in response to Message 7534.

That should be normal. With my 9800GTX+ I can also see / feel the difference, even the mouse movement doesn't feel totally smooth. Can't test with HD videos, though. Normal videos are a mixed bag. Sometimes I think I see it stuttering, but when I switch GPU-Grid off and concentrate on the image it doesn't appear to be smooth either.

MrS
____________
Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002

Ed1934158
Send message
Joined: 15 Mar 09
Posts: 32
Credit: 3,313,639
RAC: 0
Level
Ala
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 7537 - Posted: 16 Mar 2009 | 22:57:11 UTC - in response to Message 7536.

Ok, thanks, I guess it's normal then.

Profile Zydor
Send message
Joined: 8 Feb 09
Posts: 252
Credit: 1,309,451
RAC: 0
Level
Ala
Scientific publications
watwatwatwat
Message 7576 - Posted: 18 Mar 2009 | 1:02:51 UTC - in response to Message 7537.

Try running at a slightly lower resolution, doing that on my 9800GTX+ did the trick, the smaller amount of work it had to do meant the slight stutturing went away. I run at 1650x1050 now, and whilst the beast works for its living, it does both at the same time without too much drama.

Regards
Zy

ExtraTerrestrial Apes
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 17 Aug 08
Posts: 2705
Credit: 1,311,122,549
RAC: 0
Level
Met
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 7605 - Posted: 18 Mar 2009 | 19:58:48 UTC - in response to Message 7576.

In a movie it probably won't matter much, but for anything else you can't run a TFT below its native resolution. You can set it, but it looks extremly ugly and may give you head aches soon :p

MrS
____________
Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002

Ed1934158
Send message
Joined: 15 Mar 09
Posts: 32
Credit: 3,313,639
RAC: 0
Level
Ala
Scientific publications
watwatwatwatwatwatwat
Message 7629 - Posted: 19 Mar 2009 | 12:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 7605.

I don't really know if I just got used to it, or something else, but I don't notice it that much any more. I still do notice the difference in watching the movies, but for that short amount of time I suspend work.
I'm quite satisfied now, especially when I see the granted credit. :)

Post to thread

Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : Significant slowage

//