Hey community,

If you would like to contribute to an immediate need (especially while GPU work is dwindling at GPUGrid)...

I recommend installing Folding@home and setting it to work on "Any disease", which will allow your resources to be used for new COVID-19 Coronavirus tasks. They have spun up some GPU projects a few days ago, and even some CPU projects more recently. Links below.

The software is a bit clunky, but it is also relatively easy to set up. For the short term, I am allocating all my beefy GPUs resources toward working on Coronavirus, and about half of my CPU resources.

Note: I have a lot of passion for GPUGrid, and will definitely come back to it. I'm just recommending a temporary (few weeks/months?) switch, to help an immediate need.

https://foldingathome.org/

https://foldingathome.org/2020/03/10/covid19-update/

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=32287

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2953361518064379&id=136059519794607

Thanks,
Jacob Klein

Note: I have a lot of passion for GPUGrid, and will definitely come back to it. I'm just recommending a temporary (few weeks/months?) switch, to help an immediate need.

Excellent !!
Also, sorry for being wrong about GPUGrid work supply.

I am planning SARS-CoV-2 work.

Excellent! Thanks for the update. Hope to get some of those SARS-CoV-2 work units soon!

AMD Threadripper 2950x
64GB 3600MHz CAS-16 RAM
Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti (x2 in SLI)
Gigabyte X399 Aorus Xtreme
Corsair AX 1200i PSU
Custom water cooling by EKWB

Rosetta@home also has COVID-19 WUs (CPU only).

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13533
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Toni
I have this WU- https://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=17678083 stuck since the outage, awaiting validation. Can anything set it free?
Thanks

Rosetta@home also has COVID-19 WUs (CPU only).

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13533

I am planning SARS-CoV-2 work.

Toni, will these work units be GPU, CPU, both? I know to some that may be a silly question but GPUGrid has dabbled with GPU, CPU, ARM (Android), and virtualbox in the past. Just wanted to know what to look forward to.
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Rosetta@home also has COVID-19 WUs (CPU only).

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13533

You better upgrade the server(s) before you do!

I've already joint to Rosetta@home, as it is a CPU only project and, therefore, complementary to GPUGrid

You better upgrade the server(s) before you do!

So goes the conundrum of distributed computing...

You better upgrade the server(s) before you do!

So goes the conundrum of distributed computing...

The real conundrum is the preparedness of the public health services and/or governments which is put to the test by this world wide pandemic.

Okay okay ....
:) Back to Crunching for Coronavirus! :)

Does anybody know of any cool methods to somehow have my GPUs crunch Folding@home if they have a work unit available to them, but if they don't (Since there are server outages there sometimes) automatically switch over to BOINC?

I have .bat files that can turn BOINC GPU Computing from GPU Suspended to Use GPU based on preferences ... but I guess I need to do more research into finding a way to detect Folding@Home slot fulfillment for my GPU devices.

I guess I'll be starting here:
https://github.com/FoldingAtHome/fah-control/wiki/3rd-party-FAHClient-API

As folding@home is in the media now with many new users and servers are already overloaded I would recommend to stay at Rosetta for CPU and GPUgrid for GPU.

I already tell that other new users of folding@home which cannot get enough work units yet.

Okay okay ....
:) Back to Crunching for Coronavirus! :)

Does anybody know of any cool methods to somehow have my GPUs crunch Folding@home if they have a work unit available to them, but if they don't (Since there are server outages there sometimes) automatically switch over to BOINC?

I have .bat files that can turn BOINC GPU Computing from GPU Suspended to Use GPU based on preferences ... but I guess I need to do more research into finding a way to detect Folding@Home slot fulfillment for my GPU devices.

I guess I'll be starting here:
https://github.com/FoldingAtHome/fah-control/wiki/3rd-party-FAHClient-API

Regarding BOINC projects: If any doubt left to me about Rosetta@home implication in COVID-19 research... Now it's solved. com'on!

If you were following the greatest BOINC team site in the world, which everyone should be ;) you'd know that all you need to do is set exclusions in cc_config for FahCore_21.exe and 22. This works for GPU, which is all that I'm doing.

<exclusive_app>FahCore_21.exe</exclusive_app>
<exclusive_app>FahCore_22.exe</exclusive_app>

Set your preferred project to a resource share of zero and you're good to go.

Interesting idea about the Exclusive App!

I'm pretty sure I'd want to use the GPU version though.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

<exclusive_gpu_app>important.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>

Interesting idea about the Exclusive App!

I'm pretty sure I'd want to use the GPU version though.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

<exclusive_gpu_app>important.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>

I'll think about setting this up, but don't know if it'd work the way I want it to, on my PCs that have 3 GPUs.

One possible solution:

This is a low level heavily scripted option but might make a useful project if you have time or the inclination.

Step 1
Use nvidia-smi to check for low GPU temperature....eg less than 12W. This will indicate no activity in Folding@home.(nvidia-smi can output selected figures such as power, I have used this in the past)

Step 2
On low temp use boinccmd to set gpugrid as active and retrieve a wu.

Step 3
pause 300 seconds, then use boinccmd to set gpugrid status: fetch no more tasks

Step 4
use either boinccmd or nvidia-smi to check for activity in gpugrid. When gpugrid task complete, fetch folding@home task. Havent scripted folding@home so cant comment on commandline control of fetching tasks there.(this could render this script pointless)

Step 5
repeat

I can submit a script when free in a day or so if needed.

It looked to me like FAH is accessed via telnet, which might be a pain. Haven't fully researched it all. Also, I'm attached to all 55 projects, with GPU work allowed for about 5 some of which also have CPU work I want, so I'm not interested in suspending projects :)

I am planning SARS-CoV-2 work.

I just got a long run marked PABLO. Is this COVID-19 research?

I just got a long run marked PABLO. Is this COVID-19 research?

I just got a long run marked PABLO. Is this COVID-19 research?

Never mind- it errored out after 4 seconds.

I just got a long run marked PABLO. Is this COVID-19 research?

Never mind- it errored out after 4 seconds.

Probably a virus...

The real conundrum is the preparedness of the public health services and/or governments which is put to the test by this world wide pandemic.

Here, in Italy, the situation is dramatic

I just got a long run marked PABLO. Is this COVID-19 research?

Never mind- it errored out after 4 seconds.

Interesting, 64 tasks released without Wrapper (using ACEMD2 v9.23 Windows). Did someone forget to use ACEMD3?

Interesting, 64 tasks released without Wrapper (using ACEMD2 v9.23 Windows). Did someone forget to use ACEMD3?

Please tell this old newbie how you knew that, I'd be much obliged.

Thanks very much Rod4X4! I seem to have a lot of catching up to do on history here. I really appreciate the mentoring.

Thanks very much Rod4X4! I seem to have a lot of catching up to do on history here. I really appreciate the mentoring.

Is the FAHClient_22 use CUDA?
I coulndn't find a clear answer for that on their forum. (It is planned as far I could find anything about it.)
I get power consumption with that app as much I get with acemd3.
I've never experienced that an OpenCL app could draw as much power as a CUDA app does.
Is there a way to force work assignment besides restarting the FAHClient service? (like pushing the "update" button in BOINC manager.)
It is very hard to get any work from FAH...

Good questions! I don't have the answers though, sorry.

Regarding getting work in F@H... Whenever it gets stuck and isn't getting work, I have been using FAHControl (the Advanced Control program), to tell the PC or slot(s) to Pause, then tell the PC or slot(s) to Fold. I think this resets backoff timers, and might even allow it to hit different servers when trying to find work.

Regarding keeping the GPUs busy when F@H it out of work... I have setup my PCs with a BOINC GPU Exclusion for FahCore_22.exe .... so that, if none of the GPUs in the PC are working on F@H GPU tasks, it will at least allow BOINC to put those GPUs to work on BOINC projects.

.. in cc_config.xml ..

Is the FAHClient_22 use CUDA?

I haven't been to F@h for a couple of years. DartMouse wrote a series of Linux scripts to deal the various bugs. He hasn't earned CURE in over a year. I don't know what they do or how they work. I merely offer them for your perusal, caveat utilitor:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Vvckgu5SK_hVM7NlCfCXZDDs2vaVI99o

P.S., I would think that this monthly chart would convince Chodera et alia that they need to change their ways, guess not:
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497

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P.S., I would think that this monthly chart would convince Chodera et alia that they need to change their ways, guess not:
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497

on theregister.co.uk there is a notice saying that Folding@home has broken the exaflops barrier and is now the fastest computer on the Earth. Is this possible?
Tullio
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on theregister.co.uk there is a notice saying that Folding@home has broken the exaflops barrier and is now the fastest computer on the Earth. Is this possible?
Tullio

I have been running SETi and using GPUGRID as my backup project for quite some time.

Since the demise of SETI I have been running GPUGRID for my GPUs and rosetta on my CPUs and all has been fine. I have been running 2 WUs (one each) on my 2 nvidia 1070s and 9 wus on my 12 CPU AMD computer (leaving 1 CPU and 12 Logical CPUs idle). That gave me 2 GPUs busy and 2 WUs "in the wings" ready to run. BOINC 7.14.2 Win-10.

BUT

Since the introduction of ACEMD 2.10 I am only running 1 WU (on GPU 0) nothing on GPU 1 and 3 WUs "in the wings".

I have plenty of memory (32Gb total) plenty of page file (64Gb) and plenty of free disk space (232Gb) as well as "13 process slots". I have scheduled 4.5 days of work plus .1 day of "additional' work".

As far as I know the only thing to change is the move to V2.10 .

any ideas on where to look to get both GPUs running would be appreciated

Ed Frybarger

That is how I am rolling

CPU to rosetta, and GPU to GPUGRID. seems to be working well. rosetta is very memory hungry, eats pretty much all my 16GB

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any ideas on where to look to get both GPUs running would be appreciated

Ed Frybarger[/quote]

What flavor of linux are you running on the Dual Nvidia GTX 1070's system.

I am running Ubuntu 18.04 (for now), with dual Nvidia GTX 1070 ti's. Both running well.

You are also running an old Nvidia Driver (390), I recommending upgrading your driver.

For the Linux hosts and the 2.10 app, the minimum driver level is 410 for the 1070's.
https://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=5002&nowrap=true#53704

running win-10 with most current nvidia driver 445.75.

BOINC is set to use 100% memory and 75% page/swap space.

also ...

GPUGRID will run 2 NVIDIA GPU's (0 and 1) IFF I suspend rosetta. (now there's a twist ... some sort of memory shortage?? I shut rosetta down to 4 cpu's and it didn't change the GPUGRID problem at all)

Ed F

oops double post

Ed F

Would you please consider discussing non-Folding@home stuff in a new thread? Thanks.

so many GPU can be counted towards computing power without getting a hold onto a work unit.

I've never experienced that an OpenCL app could draw as much power as a CUDA app does.

Ed, You may need to add this line to your cc_config.xml file:

Where can I find information on Folding@home resource usage in BOINC terms? For example, how many virtual CPU cores does it use? Does this vary with the Folding@home Power setting?

So far, it seems that running both BOINC and Folding@home at the same time slows down the BOINC work quite a bit, due to the number of background processes being much more than the number of virtual cores.

So far, I'm only running CPU work for Folding@home, and plan to continue this until they have a steady enough supply of GPU WUs that there will be little variation in the fan noise from my computer.

For example, how many virtual CPU cores does it use? Does this vary with the Folding@home Power setting?

So far, I'm only running CPU work for Folding@home, and plan to continue this until they have a steady enough supply of GPU WUs that there will be little variation in the fan noise from my computer.

I've never experienced that an OpenCL app could draw as much power as a CUDA app does.

It's true only if you use Nvidia gpu...

Is there any config available for Folding@home to enable a Turing card?

Is there any config available for Folding@home to enable a Turing card?

Is there any config available for Folding@home to enable a Turing card?

Thanks! This worked.

Retvari Zoltan,

I set the virtual core limit for Folding @home as you suggested. However, the change has not taken effect yet. I suspect that it won't before the next CPU WU starts.


%AppData%\FAHClient\cores\cores.foldingathome.org\v7\win\64bit\Core_22.fah\FahCore_22.exe

No such file for me. However, I did find this file and tried it instead, assuming that I interpreted %AppData% correctly:

%AppData%\FAHClient\cores\cores.foldingathome.org\v7\win\64bit\avx\Core_22.fah\FahCore_22.exe

This disabled BOINC use of the GPU if a Folding@home CPU task was running, so I doubt if that was correct.

Incidentally, I doubt if my CPU has the AVX feature.

I set the virtual core limit for Folding @home as you suggested. However, the change has not taken effect yet. I suspect that it won't before the next CPU WU starts.

%AppData%\FAHClient\cores\cores.foldingathome.org\v7\win\64bit\Core_22.fah\FahCore_22.exe

No such file for me.

However, I did find this file and tried it instead, assuming that I interpreted %AppData% correctly:

%AppData%\FAHClient\cores\cores.foldingathome.org\v7\win\64bit\avx\Core_22.fah\FahCore_22.exe

This disabled BOINC use of the GPU if a Folding@home CPU task was running, so I doubt if that was correct.

Incidentally, I doubt if my CPU has the AVX feature.

I couldn't add the GPU though the graphical user interface with the v7.6.9, as it always gave number -1 for the GPU slot.
So I edited the %AppData%\FAHClient\config.xml file, I added the following line:

<slot id='1' type='GPU'/>

before the last line:

</config>

Now it works.

I set the virtual core limit for Folding @home as you suggested. However, the change has not taken effect yet. I suspect that it won't before the next CPU WU starts.

It should take effect immediately, however I had to do it twice, carefully clicking on "OK" and "SAVE".

%AppData%\FAHClient\cores\cores.foldingathome.org\v7\win\64bit\Core_22.fah\FahCore_22.exe

No such file for me.

Perhaps your host haven't downloaded any GPU workunit yet.

However, I did find this file and tried it instead, assuming that I interpreted %AppData% correctly:

%AppData%\FAHClient\cores\cores.foldingathome.org\v7\win\64bit\avx\Core_22.fah\FahCore_22.exe

That's strange, there should be the CPU app in the avx folder, which is Core_a7.fah\FahCore_a7.exe.
%AppData% should point to the current user's AppData\Roaming directory, similar to:
C:\Users\Your username\AppData\Roaming
so the whole path should look like:
C:\Users\Your username\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\cores\cores.foldingathome.org\v7\win\64bit\Core_22.fah\FahCore_22.exe

This disabled BOINC use of the GPU if a Folding@home CPU task was running, so I doubt if that was correct.

You are right, it's the CPU application.
Are you sure you put it in the lower pane?

Incidentally, I doubt if my CPU has the AVX feature.

If it's the i7-5960X, it has SSE4.2 and AVX2. (It's a Haswell-E).

I couldn't add the GPU though the graphical user interface with the v7.6.9, as it always gave number -1 for the GPU slot.
So I edited the %AppData%\FAHClient\config.xml file, I added the following line:

<slot id='1' type='GPU'/>

before the last line:

</config>

Now it works.

Good point. I have complained about that more than once on the Folding forum.

Another method is just to set the "opencl-index" to "0", which works for my Nvidia cards on Ubuntu. It may depend on the card/motherboard/OS combination, but the automatic setting never works for me on Ubuntu. Maybe it works on Windows, at least for AMD cards

Under Windows 10 with an Intel CPU, it did not even create a GPU slot for my Nvidia GPU.

My attempts to log in to the Folding forum have always failed, so I haven't been able to complain there yet.

Under Windows 10 with an Intel CPU, it did not even create a GPU slot for my Nvidia GPU.

My attempts to log in to the Folding forum have always failed, so I haven't been able to complain there yet.

I will save you the trouble.
https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=34873

One of their endearing curiosities is that you have to download a "GPUs.txt" file to recognize a card. It should happen automatically, but may take a reboot or downloading it separately.

[snip]

I will save you the trouble.
https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=34873

One of their endearing curiosities is that you have to download a "GPUs.txt" file to recognize a card. It should happen automatically, but may take a reboot or downloading it separately.

Thanks. I am currently running BOINC set not to download any GPU tasks in order to avoid a GPU conflict during the change.

Idle slots in Folding@Home are quite normal right now. I think they are still swamped, and still routinely see some idle slots. They have their own mechanism to ask for work and keep asking at certain times. You might be able to reset the timers by pausing idle slots, and then unpausing them.

https://foldingathome.org/start-folding/

Please be patient if you experience idle time as we face the COVID-19 pandemic together! We are working like mad to start simulations of COVID-19 proteins. The enthusiastic response to our effort has been tremendous and has sometimes emptied our queues. This is a great “problem” to have as there is no end to the valuable science we can do, its just a matter of giving us some time to get more running.

It is for this reason -- slots idle -- that I set Folding@Home CPU to just use 1 CPU thread on each of my PCs, and then have BOINC use my other CPUs/threads.

[snip]

It is for this reason -- slots idle -- that I set Folding@Home CPU to just use 1 CPU thread on each of my PCs, and then have BOINC use my other CPUs/threads. And I have a BOINC GPU "Exclusive Application" set for FahCore_22.exe ... so that *if* Folding@Home is using the GPU, BOINC won't, but if Folding@Home isn't using the GPU, BOINC will.

They seem to be separating the CPU work units into large and small now, with n<9 being the dividing line from what I can discern.

There is apparently more work for the "large" ones; my Ryzen 3950X running 31 out of 32 virtual cores has been busy almost all the time for the last week.

On the other hand, when I ran my i7-9700 (8 full cores), it was out of work so often that I took it down. The situation is fluid, so YMMV, but if you have a large number of cores to throw at it, it could work.

By the way, to my surprise, I am averaging around 500k PPD on the Core A7 CPU work; that is up in GPU territory (Ubuntu 18.04.4).

To my surprise I received some FahCore 21 tasks lately, so it is recommended to add FahCore_21.exe (FahCore_21 on Linux) to the exclusive GPU app list.

Yep, I just had to do the same! :)

To my surprise I received some FahCore 21 tasks lately, so it is recommended to add FahCore_21.exe (FahCore_21 on Linux) to the exclusive GPU app list.

You can always close BOINC, then add these lines to your cc_config.xml file, in the <options> section:

You can always close BOINC, then add these lines to your cc_config.xml file, in the <options> section:

<exclusive_gpu_app>FahCore_21.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>
<exclusive_gpu_app>FahCore_22.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>

Full documentation on the options you can set, is here:
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

The CPU app (FahCore_a7) is the toughest I've ever run.
I had to decrease the overclocking of my old i7-4770K from 4GHz cores + 4GHz uncore to 3.7GHz cores + 3.5GHz uncore to reduce heat output (decreasing voltages as well) and to avoid abrupt restarts / lockups on that host.
There is much variation in the power consumption of the CPU between workunits.
Roughly saying the higher the credit, the higher the power it uses.

There is another interesting project about Covid-19: https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/ from hard hit Spain.

There goal is to investigate, if some of the known viral medication might work as well on Covid-19.

They might need some love.

World Community Grid now has their Open Pandemics subproject running, With COVID-19 as the first pandemic it is working on.

Nice!

The increase in power is likely that Fahcore_a7 is utilizing AVX set instructions.

The increase in power is likely that Fahcore_a7 is utilizing AVX set instructions.

The MMR vaccine offer some protection against COVID-19.

Analysis of Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) Titers of Recovered COVID-19 Patients

https://mbio.asm.org/content/11/6/e02628-20

Do you have enough information on mumps antibodies that you could create workunits to dock them to parts of the virus?

Respectfully, you are misunderstanding the finding:

"Our results demonstrate that there is a significant inverse correlation between mumps titers from MMR II and COVID-19 severity."

That does not mean that the MMR vaccine can prevent COVID-19. It means that a statistical association was observed. Correlation is not causation.

Persons without medical contraindications are advised to be immunized with MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccine because measles is a serious disease potentially fatal to children, it is perhaps the most transmissible virus known to man, and there was multi-year global outbreak prior to COVID-19. But not because the MMR vaccine has been proven to prevent COVID-19.

Hmmm... I hate to be a party pooper, but:
My personal opinion is that crunching for COVID-19 is not very useful.
The whole world is looking for drugs to fight that disease, and they are doing thousands of in vitro tests a day, which works a lot quicker than computer simulations.

So my humble opinion is this: (I may be wrong)
It is better to let our computers crunch data for diseases which either do not receive enough attention (child cancer, Tuberculosis, ...) or diseases of which we know that a lot of work is needed for years/decades to come like cancer, so long term projects.

So if GPUGRID stays without WUs for some more time and I decide to temporarily switch to Folding@Home - at least for my GPUs - I would rather let them do work for Cancer for example, rather than COVID-19.
We have vaccines for COVID-19 now, but a lot of work remains to be done before we can beat cancer definitively, or child cancer, or tuberculosis etc.

My CPUs do work for the Mapping Cancer Markers project, the tuberculosis project and the Child Cancer project at World Community Grid.
Alas these do not use GPUs.
So if you want to put your GPUs to work, I would choose diseases at Folding@Home which will need long term work (years/decades) before we can beat them.
Something like Covid-19 which is already being beaten by the first generation of vaccines... I just think it is less interesting for our species to put our GPUs to work on something which is about to get solved by the first vaccine generation, at least temporarily.

This is just my opinion.
But I respect everybody's choice of course. Use your GPUs the way you like. :-)
My choice is to put my GPUs to work on longer-term problems.

Greetings, and have a nice day;
Carl

Hmmm... I hate to be a party pooper, but:
My personal opinion is that crunching for COVID-19 is not very useful.
The whole world is looking for drugs to fight that disease, and they are doing thousands of in vitro tests a day, which works a lot quicker than computer simulations.

Hmmm... I hate to be a party pooper, but:
My personal opinion is that crunching for COVID-19 is not very useful.
The whole world is looking for drugs to fight that disease, and they are doing thousands of in vitro tests a day, which works a lot quicker than computer simulations.

I think there is considerable merit to that, and have been wondering about it myself (with over 100 Ryzen 3000 virtual cores on WCG/OPN at the moment). The limiting factor at the moment is testing, with animal testing and then human testing being even more limited and expensive than in vitro testing.

However, there is the question of mutations. We need something that targets a broad range of viruses, and it might be possible that the computer simulations can do that. In particular, I think that Folding can find and target areas of the virus that the ordinary testing techniques will miss. I have 10M PPD riding on it in any case. I hope something works.

I recently purchased an AMD Ryzen 9 3900 (non -x) for the Mapping Cancer Markers project at WCG.
That is a 12-core, 24 thread CPU with a TDP of only 65 Watts, so a quite efficient CPU ( OEM only, so a little difficult to find though. )

Hmmm... I hate to be a party pooper, but:
My personal opinion is that crunching for COVID-19 is not very useful.
The whole world is looking for drugs to fight that disease, and they are doing thousands of in vitro tests a day, which works a lot quicker than computer simulations.

Also, while there are many in vitro studies and successes, they often fail at the next stage of animal testing. That is because they kill the virus in the lab, but also kill the animal because they are toxic.

Can the computer studies improve on that success rate? I don't know. We should be finding out before long I would think.

The lab testing on WCG/OPN should begin shortly.
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewNewsArticle.do?articleId=674

I recently purchased an AMD Ryzen 9 3900 (non -x) for the Mapping Cancer Markers project at WCG.
That is a 12-core, 24 thread CPU with a TDP of only 65 Watts, so a quite efficient CPU ( OEM only, so a little difficult to find though. )

I didn't know there was a non -x version. That looks like good efficiency to me.
There is supposed to be a 5900 non -x version too, but also OEM only. I would love to find one later in the year. I am full for now.

We have vaccines for COVID-19 now

My main concern is their set-and-forget approach, so the FAH user interface and cache strategy and web infrastructure is not made to match my tastes. I cannot control my farm through "venues", I can't set cache size, there's no webpage for my hosts to track their workunits etc.

We have vaccines for COVID-19 now

Those vaccines
1. don't cure those who are actually sick with COVID-19 (ok, some of them does)
2. are hard to produce, store, transport, inject
3. are expensive
So these vaccines are useless for those who live in poverty (for the majority of the world's population).

The aim of the COVID-19 moonshot project (FAH is a main contributor of that with its computing power) is to design a drug which
1. will cure those who are actually sick, or will get sick with COVID-19 (and perhaps many similar corona viruses in the future)
2. are easy to produce, store, transport, take
3. are inexpensive

Don't forget that this corona virus is actually the third (obviously the most successful) one in the last 20 years which threatens our civilization.

But vaccines might be more expensive because you need to give them to everybody, not just to those who get sick. That is true.

By the way, I wonder about the new drug they gave to Mr. Donald Trump when he got Corona.
It was called "Regeneron" I think.

I wonder how it works:
Is it a simple antiviral molecule, or does it work more like immune therapy, or is it a new generation drug with a patient specific compound...

But vaccines might be more expensive because you need to give them to everybody, not just to those who get sick. That is true.

The expense should not even be a factor. Whether it is $15 per dose or $150, it is trivial compared to the economic loss. The only factors are speed and efficiency.

But vaccines might be more expensive because you need to give them to everybody, not just to those who get sick. That is true.

The expense should not even be a factor. Whether it is $15 per dose or $150, it is trivial compared to the economic loss. The only factors are speed and efficiency.

I totally agree:
Once a pandemic has become so big, money should not be the first thing to think about.
That is why I said from the beginning that thanks to the first generation of vaccines, this problem will soon be solved, at least temporarily.
Finding antivirals will take a lot more time, if we find them.

Please explain how it is financially viable to vaccinate the population of those countries marked with red color?

Please explain how it is financially viable to vaccinate the population of those countries marked with red color?