Message boards : Server and website : Can't get work
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I'm thinking it might have to do with my work completed page, it shows 9 errors going back to 2013 with only 14 completed work units. I have to pound the update button for 40 minutes and I might get 3 work units. | |
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Same here for the past few days : | |
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You are both not getting work because the queue is empty for now. there will be times when work is available but is sucked up by all the other hosts looking for work. | |
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I just got 3 WU's when I should have received 6, the only other project I'm working on right now is Rosetta which is CPU based and it's set to a much lower priority. | |
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Ok, Thanks ! | |
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Everyone with no GPUGrid work: I recommend having a backup project and setting the resource share to 0. This will automatically start this backup project as soon as GPUGrid is out of work. | |
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Hi Everyone, | |
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Quite a few threads asking the same thing. | |
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Two things which might affect access to new work. | |
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This has been an ongoing issue for GPUGrid - the problem has existed for years -- too little work for users. It gets worse when other projects are coping with an outage. Collatz is dealing with one now so folks who have GPUGrid as an alternative project are trying (with rare success) to get workunits here. | |
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How did the miners figure out how to cheat? Are they returning false results, are other projects at risk? | |
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I have also observed that the Network weight of GRC increased significantly and payouts are more difficult to get. I hope that this is because of higher commitment of crunchers and not the result of fraudulent practices. If the latter, someone is making money on GRC without contributing to science, abusing the idea of GRC and Boinc unshamedly. Is there anybody to check that? | |
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I hope that this is because of higher commitment of crunchers and not the result of fraudulent practices. That's precisely why I think this (crunching) should remain a points only system with no monetary gain, I refuse to mine for profit, no good will come from it. Sooner or later someone will figure out a subtle cheat or shortcut and all the results going back months, if not years, will have to be thrown out and redone. It's human nature, some of these new video games are cracked before they are released. The only reason why some beta testers volunteer is to find a way to peel back their security layers, it's a very sad situation. | |
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Based on what the Collatz admin mentioned as fixes to the project I guess the task name gave a clue to what the expected results should have been. It was able to create the results that passed the checks w/o actually doing the processing. All tasks were the same very high point value which doesn't happen with collatz and very, very quickly. 340k vs typical 28k or so points. Completed in 5 seconds vs a couple minutes. With a GTX 760. Hundreds of hosts, about 7.7b in credit in a couple of weeks. | |
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I hope that this is because of higher commitment of crunchers and not the result of fraudulent practices. This is exactly what I feel, too! | |
ID: 49319 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
Well, I think that GRC itself, understood as an incentive for spending work, energy and money on the public good is not a bad idea. The main point is that crypto mining should not have priority and science must prevail. I think we do all agree on that. The problem I see is that GRC is still open for speculative trading like other (non-scientific but energy wasting) crypto currencies. If we support the proof-of-research path but make buying (not selling) GRC more difficult by a speculation tax (income can be used e.g. as a prize money for the best published work) that would put adventurers off for sure. | |
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Well, I think that GRC itself, understood as an incentive for spending work, energy and money on the public good is not a bad idea. The main point is that crypto mining should not have priority and science must prevail. I couldn't agree more. The main reason I promote gridcoin is because: does anyone know how many millions of GPUs are crunching away at worthless cryptocurrency calculations, that benefit nothing for society? What if those GPUs were doing something that actually benefited everyone? You can be assured these greedy people are not going to "volunteer" their 10s of thousands of dollar electric bills and hundreds of thousands of dollars in GPUs in warehouses for science without a financial incentive. If we even get one warehouse full of GPUs on BOINC I will consider it a success. We can't keep splitting the BOINC community of whether Gridcoin is good for it or not. People will always find ways to loophole the system, no matter what system we are talking about. The best thing we can do is take measures to prevent them from breaking our scientific progress. It's not worth writing off all of Gridcoin because of one incident that can be prevented in the future. I can tell you right now I would not have been able to afford my mutliple watercooled 1080tis if it weren't for this coin. The only thing that benefits from this is science. | |
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I'm curious about your comment about being able to afford your Ti's. Does that mean that you actually converted your GRC to real monies? And then used those real monies to purchase your Ti's. Or do you mean you see a paper profit in your GRC account that would pay for your cards if you converted those ephemeral gridcoins. | |
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I'm curious about your comment about being able to afford your Ti's. Does that mean that you actually converted your GRC to real monies? And then used those real monies to purchase your Ti's. Or do you mean you see a paper profit in your GRC account that would pay for your cards if you converted those ephemeral gridcoins. During the spikes, such as when Gridcoin shot up to 22 cents each, I converted about half of my total gridcoin to USD using C-Cex exchange. This was enough to pretty much outright fund my expansion. In the low value times such as now, the magnitude, of which determines how much gridcoin you get per day, is typically higher as less people are interested in crunching. I typically crunch the hardest when the gridcoin value is low due to the much higher rate of return I receive. | |
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Don't forget to pay taxes on that fortune your making, I heard the IRS is going to start chasing down the data miners. | |
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Don't forget to pay taxes on that fortune your making, I heard the IRS is going to start chasing down the data miners. You only pay tax when you convert from the coin to USD. If anything, you can treat this as simply paying for the electric bill every month, providing free crunching and free heat. Or you could go the way I did and use that money to expand your operations, further accelerating science. | |
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Make sure you tell that to the IRS, they're pretty understanding. Seriously though, I've heard on TV and read a couple of articles that they were going to do this. Just be careful, you don't want those guys after you. | |
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https://cryptocurrencyfacts.com/2017/12/30/the-tax-rules-for-crypto-in-the-u-s-simplified/ | |
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By the way... getting back to the topic... there is WORK, both long and short runs for our GPUs. Just wanted to give an honorable mention :) | |
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Sunshine and heat. The available work seems to ramp up just as the northern hemisphere (and my office) heats up. I had a nicely cooled GPU sitting idle too much of the winter, but now that there's work the GPU is starting to throttle back to keep the temperature reasonable. | |
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You could set a custom fan curve, using a tool like MSI Afterburner, to keep the GPU temps at a level that is below the thermal throttling thresholds. I use a custom fan curve that keeps my GTX 980 Ti temps at below 78*C, so they run at custom tested-stable overclocks, without downclocking. | |
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You could set a custom fan curve, using a tool like MSI Afterburner, to keep the GPU temps at a level that is below the thermal throttling thresholds. I use a custom fan curve that keeps my GTX 980 Ti temps at below 78*C, so they run at custom tested-stable overclocks, without downclocking. Yes, that's exactly what I do. I was hoping for the better solution of getting WUs in winter. W | |
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What brand of 980Ti? | |
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I have 2 GTX 980 Ti GPUs in my system. | |
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I have 2 GTX 980 Ti GPUs in my system. You could always convert the EVGA to a hybrid. That would help with heating issues. I've done that before with those 980Tis, if you can still find the kit. But it has to be for the FTW. There is a difference between the kit for the regular 980ti and the FTW version. As for the dell. Not sure but might be able to use a regular hybrid kit. ____________ | |
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I have 2 GTX 980 Ti GPUs in my system. Dell made 980ti's? Is it just the stock cooler? | |
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Jacob Klein wrote: ...I use a custom fan curve that keeps my GTX 980 Ti temps at below 78*C ... how much below 78°C? slightly below, or far below? At which temps do your two 980ti's normally run? | |
ID: 49366 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
80*C is the thermal throttling point for Pascal GPUs like mine, I believe. So I set the fan curve such that it will hit max fan at 78*C, to keep the temps below 80*C, so those clocks are at maximum. | |
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Hi, for 2 days I have not received wu ... is't vacation time in Barcelona? | |
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Hi, i do not receive any WU (since 3 days) too. | |
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What happens ? Most probably: vacation time :-) | |
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I have had "no tasks are available" message in boinc manager for all GPUGrid apps for the past week or 10 days. Server status says tasks are available. I don't think I've changed anything - no other projects are behaving this way. Windows 10, core i7, gtx 960m on this computer. | |
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I have had "no tasks are available" message in boinc manager for all GPUGrid apps for the past week or 10 days. Server status says tasks are available. I don't think I've changed anything - no other projects are behaving this way. Windows 10, core i7, gtx 960m on this computer. There are tasks but only for linux CPU app. In the meantime you can use folding@home as a backup project. | |
ID: 50249 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
Will you have windows tasks in the future? | |
ID: 50250 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
I'm not the member of the team ;) | |
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What happens ? the problem with the absence of GPU tasks for such long time is, of course, that if people change to other project in the meantime, like e.g. Folding@Home, they stick to the new project for the future and won't come back to GPUGRID. This the GPUGRID people should be aware of. | |
ID: 50253 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
My GPUs have been happily doing work for my 0-resource-share backup projects, and will happily switch back to doing work for my 100-resource-share GPUGrid project when work is available. All automatically. | |
ID: 50254 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
Both my Linux hosts are crunching GPUGRID tasks. | |
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Tullio, | |
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I only know that I get far more credits on a GPU task than on a CPU task. But I don't give a damn about credits. | |
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what would not hurt, though, is if the GPUGRID people could give us crunchers some kind of time schedule, or at least a rough idea, when new GPU tasks will be available again. | |
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what would not hurt, though, is if the GPUGRID people could give us crunchers some kind of time schedule, or at least a rough idea, when new GPU tasks will be available again. Agreed!!! But is common courtesy too much to ask for? You tell me. Luckily, there are other projects to crunch. So, that's what I am doing. | |
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Just to let you know, the absence of windows GPU tasks may affect the whitelisting of gpugrid on gridcoin - you could lose alot of crunchers! | |
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Really, I have aimed at replacing my two 1070 and one 1080ti with new RTX 2080 this year. But as I see it, there is no need for more computing power on the GPU side and the Turing cards not significantly more power efficient than Pascal anyway (But much more expensive). So that money on the upgrade would be wasted. Doesn't really make sense buy a 1000$ card when there is no work for it. On the other hand, there always are plenty of CPU jobs here to be crunched. So it seems like a good point to buy an AMD Threadripper now and contribute on this side. Why not. | |
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Really, I have aimed at replacing my two 1070 and one 1080ti with new RTX 2080 this year. But as I see it, there is no need for more computing power on the GPU side and the Turing cards not significantly more power efficient than Pascal anyway (But much more expensive). So that money on the upgrade would be wasted. Doesn't really make sense buy a 1000$ card when there is no work for it. On the other hand, there always are plenty of CPU jobs here to be crunched. So it seems like a good point to buy an AMD Threadripper now and contribute on this side. Why not. That is my conclusion too. There is more CPU work than GPU work around. And I am limited by power dissipation anyway, so might as well use it for CPUs. The real improvement in GPUs won't come until 7nm, at which time the ground may have shifted further. I will wait and see. | |
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- you could lose alot of crunchers! there were some new tasks yesterday, but no ones any more since last night. It's really kind of laborious :-( As said before, it would indeed be helpful for us crunchers if the GPUGRID people could give us some kind of schedule, showing when tasks will be available on an ongoing basis, and when not. | |
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As we have repeatedly read in various posts of this forum, the Barcelona researchers are more involved in the medical-scientific part than on the strictly technical and operative part. | |
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@ [PUGLIA] kidkidkid3: I fully agree with what you are saying. But still, ... | |
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For the last 2 months my 2 GTX1070 have been mostly idle, Gpugrid had some tasks only from 24/11/2019 to 03/12/2019, for the rest since beginning of November absolutely 0 points. | |
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I haven't been able to get any work for the last 45 days or so. What is going on? Is this project dead? | |
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I have three machines which can't pick up any work any more: | |
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Reset the project? Detach and reattach? | |
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I am not requesting any work either. The scheduler connection timer just goes dormant. I had to manually update to refill my cache. | |
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I recognise those names! I've brought 12 GPUs across from 'the other place' - 5 Windows hosts and 2 Linux hosts. They've all been fetching on a 0.25 day cache setting all day, and cycling through a regular 'one running, one spare' allocation. Just the occasional pause if two different machines need to upload or download at the same time, but having a spare task ready solves that. | |
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Pretty sure it was the change in the Seti scheduler timeout to 600 seconds. | |
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Don't think so. BOINC can only process one scheduler request (to one project) at a time, but once that request has been acknowledged or timed out, it's free to send a request to the next project in line. The requested backoffs only apply to the project that requested them. | |
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Ok, was just guessing. Problem solved by setting Seti to NNT and instantly all projects woke up and started the scheduler connections and timers. | |
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Reset the project? Detach and reattach? Had already tried that... sorry should have mentioned that. It turned out that it stopped liking our custom BOINC clent for some reason though it had worked originally. Replacing boinc, boinccmd, boincmgr and switcher with copies from the AIO archive caused BOINC to redownload the project as if I'd done a detach/reattach, and then it started requesting work on all of three of the affected computers. | |
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Problem was definitely caused by Seti. Whatever it was. If you have a long timeout set for http activity, and the SETI server wasn't responding in a timely fashion, that might explain it. My machines have been open for SETI resends throughout my high-activity period here, and some have even arrived this morning, so SETI work requests by themselves weren't your problem. | |
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Problem was definitely caused by Seti. Whatever it was. I actually have a shortened timeout value from default. 60 seconds. Problem was the way that Seti is configured now and the custom client not agreeing. Suspending Seti solved the issue. | |
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... and the custom client not agreeing. Not a good design decision to have a client that doesn't back off when, and for as long as, the project requests. What does it do when the project requests a 1 hour break for maintenance? | |
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... and the custom client not agreeing. Don't know. That is for Ville to figure out why the client has broken with Seti active. Most of the feature set in the client is to manipulate Seti and now that Seti is no longer distributing work, it is simplest to just suspend the project. The other features of the client are still desirable with the ability to finally control exactly how much work you want on every project no matter the size of the global cache. For once Einstein does not need to be constantly micromanaged and Milkyway will constantly refill its cache and not go dormant every ten minutes because the administrators have never figured out the correct server side configuration files. | |
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i seem to be the only person not having issues with SETI work requests impacting other projects. I'm using the custom client also. but I also run a manual watch command to virtually "click" the update button for SETI every 15 mins regardless of anything else. maybe that's keeping it going for me? | |
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I was running a watch command for a while but I discovered it had an impact also and prevented me from getting work from my other projects. So I stopped using it. But that was from before the end of Seti and the recent change in the timer. | |
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i seem to be the only person not having issues with SETI work requests impacting other projects. no, you are not the only one :-) I havn't had any such problems either | |
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I was running a watch command for a while but I discovered it had an impact also and prevented me from getting work from my other projects. So I stopped using it. But that was from before the end of Seti and the recent change in the timer. I don't see how clicking update on SETI on a set interval can prevent you from getting work on another project. I have mine set on SETI now checking every 20.5mins just to prevent it from going into a long backoff, and since I have no seti work, it's only keeping it updated on trying to get some resends. it's working fine. I get a handful of resends every day from SETI and I'm getting my normal 2 per GPU from GPUGRID on the systems running that, and on the system running Einstein it's getting work consistently, though I run a 0 resource share there, so it only sends me 1 job per GPU + 1 extra. I don't have any special settings for any project in the config file, only settings for SETI. ____________ | |
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I don't understand how it did either. But it did and the effect was incontrovertible. You don't run all my projects concurrently either I bet. | |
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