Hi there,

one of my boinc machines is a Win7 Pro 64Bit with an ASUS GTX570 card. The NVidia driver is the latest 320.49. This machine shows a strange behaviour: each of the WUs (http://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=158339) will be started without any failure, seems to run for hours, but nothing happens...no CPU usage, no GPU usage, no progress...

What's wrong here ?

best regards,
Rene

Hi,

yes I did. The BOINC manager says that it is running and the messages file shows it too. I've got another machine for GPUGRID with the same OS and drivers, but with a GTX480 and a GTX560Ti. This machine doesn't show any unusual behaviour.

Hmmm...the 326.80 isn't stable but beta. Since this is not a boinc-only machine, I'd prefer to stay with the stable drivers.

Rene

Hmmm...the 326.80 isn't stable but beta. Since this is not a boinc-only machine, I'd prefer to stay with the stable drivers.

Hi,

thanks for the info. Maybe I should give it a try...

Non, not even with the new drivers does it work. The application still does nothing... I cancelled both WUs.

This run keeps increasing its remaining time with no end in sight.

Should I abort it?

Was that on the GTX 650 Ti BOOST? I think you also have a GTX 660 as I recall. I want to give mine a try again on the just-released 327.23 drivers, but the 660s seem to have been somewhat problematic recently.

@skgiven

the WU that is running (more or less) at the moment is a SANTI_RAP74. This one also does nothing... :(

Sure, see screenshot. Those message lines are more than interesting, but I can't explain what causes them.

The thing is that all other GPU tasks (SETI, Einstein, PrimeGrid, POEM) are running fine on this machine.

I got a similar problem for months .. I already try all the tutorials on this forum and the clean reinstal win 8 64 bit .. and even observe the problem on my hardware manufacturer's website ..

A problem is in communication GPU grid taks and nvidia drivers .. cuda and programming errors ..
Just two-week working gpu grid normally and then comes tasks wrong and all work is **
I see a lot of people who do not have problems, but they probably use computers only for gpu grid, or is in use linux .. But for many people discourage these problems by counting in GPUGRID
For example, the Collatz Conjecture I for about a week, two, the average rac 650000 .. as well as the gpu grid for few months, but then the problems started about which is fully forum ..
Two days ago I did one job for about 8-9 hours .. they are running me two because I have two cards in sli .. After today crash nvidia driver and subsequent BSOD and forced restarts, obviously wasteful tasks and credit .. I already shows one manager onetasks performed for about 9-10 hours ...
weeks before the clean installation, win 8 64bit on my ssd, I one task done in 14-16 hours ... Then I had an older bios on board and voalaa,, I counts one task for 8 hours until this morning when back on the old problem of crash nvidia drivers, and, chrome browser, and others ..
I've never not install the beta nvidia drivers, just WHQL,because with the beta drivers it worse..

just going to install nvidia 327.23 driver...((

when I installed nvidia drivers, nvidia driver fell again in a few second intervals, pop up notification of a collapse of the controls is flashed ... it's crazy.. after the next reboot while it works well but one task will count 9 -10 hours .. so again is really something wrong..
is proably never ending problems in this project :-)

Just so..

Ok, did a couple of debug sessions and took a look into the app_control code.

It seems that the task gets suspended due to CPU throttling. I'll have a deeper look now to find out why this is happening.

Will keep you posted...

Ok, this was a quick solution ;) I think the CPU throttling in BOINC 7.0.64 is non-optimal. When you take a look at my screenshot of the BOINC options, you'll notice that I only allow to use 75% of my CPUs. I'm not running any CPU-only WUs on this machine, so there is always just 1 active WU, since I've only got one GPU.

After analyzing the debug output and the source code, I've just changed the option from 75% to 100%...BINGO!!! That worked :)

Now the WU is running fine.

But I think the CPU throttle handling in BOINC needs a bit of tweaking, since the GPUGrid task never ever used 75% of one CPU...

@Josef

maybe you should lower the GPU and memory clock speeds a bit. If the GPUs are running nearly at 100% for a long period of time, the electronics might not be able to support the factory clocks speeds any longer.

In the past I've had the same problems (see http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=3421#31554). After I lowered the clocks a bit, everything is running smooth.

cheers
Rene

Ok, this was a quick solution ;) I think the CPU throttling in BOINC 7.0.64 is non-optimal.

Richard,

What's this CPU throtting thing? Do you know how it works? There's no thing germane in the library code so presumably it's all in the client.

Matt

Use at most
Can be used to reduce CPU heat 100% of CPU time

client: don't apply CPU throttling to apps that use < .5 CPUs (like GPU, NCI).

660 ... have aborted run ... just installed latest driver.

660 ... have aborted run ... just installed latest driver.

Thanks Richard,

I guess I'd better take a look and see exactly how this third suspend-resume mechanism works under the hood..

MJH

I91R9-NATHAN_KIDc22_glu-7-10-RND1126_1

Has been running for over 49 hours ... elapsed time increases, remaining time barely moves, but increases.

Hi, GPUGrid Folks:

Short run task has been grinding away for over 14 h......


251-NOELIA_CRYST1-9-12-RND5111_0 (60% complete)

:(

John

If the GPU is cooler than normal, I suggest shutting the system down, turning the PSU off for a minute and then turning it back on and starting the system up again - doing this allowed me to finish a WU that had run for 5days (but had really stopped after about 6h).

Many thanks, skgiven. Problem fixed. I had hoped to run these tasks in a 'set and forget' mode, but that may not be possible. Being unable to sleep last night, I took a peek at my machine at around 05:00h to see if all is well and that's when I discovered the long run.

I will try again and if the problem recurs I will make the suggested fix.

Thanks again,

John

It seems to be more of a problem with the mid-range cards (GTX 660, 660 Ti). Are the 700 series cards immune?

Depends on whether the same thing that is causing your system to just stop processing is the same thing that causes 780s/Titans to have constant "Access violations" and app restarts.

Shut the machine down while I went to work, 12 hrs later turned it back on.

The elapsed time increases, the remaining stagnant ?

This is the second run I have aborted. My GPUGRID credits are decreasing because I am running programs that don't work and I have to abort.

All this started happening just recently ...

Depends on whether the same thing that is causing your system to just stop processing is the same thing that causes 780s/Titans to have constant "Access violations" and app restarts.

The Memory Controller Load apparently runs at a constant 14% rate when it is running slowly, so I doubt that it is the start/stop condition. (It should run about 30% normally on these work units.) I know they had a similar problem with the older apps (before the 8 series), particularly with the GTX 660s, and thought it might have been solved. Otherwise, the 8.14 app works very nicely that I can see, except for one Noelia that errored out, but no crashes or other bad behavior. I hope they can get the last wrinkles ironed out for the mid-range cards, and also for the 700 cards or else there is not much incentive to upgrade to those.

If nothing will fix this, I will delete GPUGRID and run another BOINC program.

Have you checked if the GPU clock runs still at full load (to load you want or have set to)? I have had a lot of troubles with my 660's, even bought a new motherboard. They do fine now with the beta's and long runs and 8.14. Short runs give (still) the most problems.

If nothing will fix this, I will delete GPUGRID and run another BOINC program.

On my 660 two times today the GPU clock was down clocked. The WU's where beta ans Santi. My 660 has the most problems with Santi and almost none with Noelia's.
I regret that I have bought two 660's during summer, as my 770 is running fine with all WU's and very little errors. The card was more expensive but absolutely no frustration to run, while the 660 is frustrating me several times a day. The will be replaced by 7xx before the year is over.
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Greetings from TJ

I have deleted gpugrid from my computer.

I suspended all runs except for the gpu

It runs but the remaining times keeps increasing. never more never more.

Will try 50% processor and 100% CPU.

Will let you know how this works.

Had my first GPU completion in quite awhile after the CPU & processor usage change ... Thanks !

Sooo whats the official solution for this, because this problem seems to still remain on short queue here on a 560ti 448 core edition. Lucky i can switch to long runs only with this card, but want to set it for both queues any later again for dont lose any publicationbadges ;) restart the machine after every short unit on an unattended machine is no solution ;)
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What drivers are you using? It looks like your computer is using 301.42 from May 2012.

I'd recommend trying the most-recent 331.58 drivers that were released, and if those still don't work, possible try 314.22 (which was before they created the 320 branch and broke some stuff).

Believe it or not, new drivers can actually fix things!

Hmm. ok i was only wondering because TJ has the same problem and updated the drivers but still fail.
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Hmm. ok i was only wondering because TJ has the same problem and updated the drivers but still fail.

oh i read it like that because you answered me O.o ok then, i will upgrade the driver ^^
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Hello dskagcommunity, as promised I would let you know about the SR's.
Well the first one did finished okay but with this "result" in the stderr:
# GPU 0 : 65C
SWAN : FATAL : Cuda driver error 716 in file 'swanlibnv2.cpp' in line 1963.
# SWAN swan_assert 0
# GPU [GeForce GTX 660] Platform [Windows] Rev [3203] VERSION [55]
# SWAN Device 0 :
# Name : GeForce GTX 660
That means that the clock has down clocked to half, so very slow processing now.
The PC had run for 10 and a half day with LR's and no such "error".
To me the SR are a pain on the 660. However 331.40 are not the latest beta drivers anymore.
I do hope your SR's do good. If you have time and willing you could try the latest drivers. Good luck.
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Greetings from TJ

few weeks I have a problem. When im start a project manager Boinc gpu grid starts to work,then run the Chrome browser,or movie player program..or gpu-Z,youtube a whole computer slows down like in slow motion, if I in this manage to hit the slow mode mouse and clicking on the boinc manager and Pause only gpu grid, everything starts working normally-off in this

Already have fun few days, sometimes I succeed to run and feelings do not come into a slow-mode which subsequently repaired just reboot or reset. but immediately after start when windows boots up normally boinc manager and GPUGRID and I'll start windows normally uses 8.1 clean install nvidia driver geforce R331, after starting certain specific applications (Chrome, PotPlayer ..) to start mowing after again .. But it happened to me already without launching the program ... I checked everything but when it's almost a clean install, the problem is gpudrid and nvidia drivers and some acceleration in programs who work at the same time of GPUGRID ..

shorter this could be explained if I shot this video ...
but a longer time to work assignments from GPUGRID perfectly but recently launched this problem .. and the solution will be hard to find ..
I changed the HDD and SSD because of it whether it is really HW-no problem ..
strange that I simply could not fit bsod month because of faulty work of GPUGRID or other problems of labor, which is fully-forum :)
But he began to show me the problem-slow motion .. this is a situation in

I think it will be some conflict-GPUGRID-nvidia-acceleration program that uses the graphics card
because another project which was then the cpu is running at the same time with no problem

few weeks I have a problem. When im start a project manager Boinc gpu grid starts to work,then run the Chrome browser,or movie player program..or gpu-Z,youtube a whole computer slows down like in slow motion, if I in this manage to hit the slow mode mouse and clicking on the boinc manager and Pause only gpu grid, everything starts working normally-off in this

Already have fun few days, sometimes I succeed to run and feelings do not come into a slow-mode which subsequently repaired just reboot or reset. but immediately after start when windows boots up normally boinc manager and GPUGRID and I'll start windows normally uses 8.1 clean install nvidia driver geforce R331, after starting certain specific applications (Chrome, PotPlayer ..) to start mowing after again .. But it happened to me already without launching the program ... I checked everything but when it's almost a clean install, the problem is gpudrid and nvidia drivers and some acceleration in programs who work at the same time of GPUGRID ..

shorter this could be explained if I shot this video ...
but a longer time to work assignments from GPUGRID perfectly but recently launched this problem .. and the solution will be hard to find ..
I changed the HDD and SSD because of it whether it is really HW-no problem ..
strange that I simply could not fit bsod month because of faulty work of GPUGRID or other problems of labor, which is fully-forum :)
But he began to show me the problem-slow motion .. this is a situation in

I think it will be some conflict-GPUGRID-nvidia-acceleration program that uses the graphics card
because another project which was then the cpu is running at the same time with no problem